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There you go again stereotyping, Dublin is multi county and multi cultural we live shoulder to shoulder with each other. They even serve "culchie" people frappachinos. Why the axe to grind with Dublin. Or to label someone from Dublin as being well off, if someone is or isn't doesn't fit into a narrow stereotype. There is affluence and poverty presumably everywhere in Ireland. I'm not sure if you are from Dublin or elsewhere you can claim a right to it. I'm not sure the country or city has a monopoly on affluence or poverty. Truth be told, if you are on an old age pension, job seekers of disability you are probably far better off in the country then in Dublin if the cost of living is lower if you claim, because as you rightly point out the cost of living is very high, especially if you aren't getting much change out of a roll for 20 Euro. You talk like it's an exclusive club traveling to away games, I was in Omagh twice last year, Galway, Portloaise and Castlebar. The reverse fixtures the year before. Clones on Sunday and booked for the rest of the away games for the league thus far. That's before we talk hurling. I'll put this very simply, Dublin take more fans away then any other county, we certainty don't need advise I felt for the Galway players at the league final and semi final as they were really poor attended they were a really admirable team. But let's not turn this into a super fan debate. Simply put, you don't know anyone's background on here, I'm sure there are well off lads and lads that struggle. Fitting someone's opinion into your biased stereotype or their county of origin really, isn't reflective of treating people as individuals, you will see diversity of opinions from people from the same county on here and it's healthy to have those different opinions, if we didn't we would all have those biased stereotypes you are keen to shoe horn people into. I still think, 20 euro is terrific value, particularly for kids, the fact the GAA is communal and money goes back into the game is also a true ,motivation that bridges any sense of fleecing for me. Everyone wants more money, but no one wants to pay for it. If I was you I get your roll and Frappuccino the far side on Enfild the next time you visit Dublin a chara. ;) TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4441 - 21/01/2019 23:28:14 2158801 Link 6 |
€20 for an uncovered Stand seat in Jan/Feb/Mar. Only one way to answer that......let us all sit home and hurt them at the turnstiles. Otherwise no point complaining.......ACTION speaks much louder than words. seamusorinn (USA) - Posts: 295 - 22/01/2019 01:14:13 2158811 Link 3 |
John Horan states that some of the extra money will be put back into the clubs, I will believe that when I see it lefty (Wexford) - Posts: 185 - 22/01/2019 08:15:16 2158818 Link 0 |
Its for the clubs but have reduced the fees clubs have to pay, registrations fees, insurance.. tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 597 - 22/01/2019 09:02:59 2158824 Link 0 |
No one likes paying more money for anything! jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20589 - 22/01/2019 10:11:26 2158833 Link 5 |
Your self and username and Leo keep yer heads in the sand, sure everything is brilliant all together.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 22/01/2019 10:40:26 2158840 Link 2 |
The GAA is out of touch with the ordinary people attending matches. These price hikes are REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 22/01/2019 10:52:12 2158845 Link 2 |
I disagree with the price increase
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20589 - 22/01/2019 11:10:16 2158849 Link 2 |
15e(if you buy anytime the week before?) for top class hurling and football action isnt a huge price? a 0.0 draw at the aviva costs 70!! kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 504 - 22/01/2019 12:04:21 2158858 Link 2 |
It's all relative Kavvie. Could be a mighty 0-0 with keepers tied for man of the match and Ireland could qualify with the draw in a stadium with facilities. Was only thinking the other day that night League games v The Dubs are grand, a bit better if it's a double header or triple header with ladies and hurling. But Croker is half empty, lacking any match atmosphere. They'll never beat the atmosphere of a night game in a packed Parnell Park. This reared it's ugly head over the Liam Miller testimonial. These price increases are partly paying for stadium developments. Out of necessity and good financial planning some clubs share their grounds with other sports clubs getting more usage from the facilities than if they were just for GAA. They get some funding from grants and that way taxpayers money has been spent a bit wiser. GAA, IRFU, FAI all have stadia that are idle in the offseason and quite a bit during the season. No rugby or soccer stadium with a pitch area big enough for games but fine for training. It's 2019. The GAA can't expect to grow if it doesn't hold out the hand to soccer and rugby players who also love hurling and gaelic football. Any more proposed GAA, Rugby, Soccer stadia should be looked at from a groundshare perspective to get value for money. This a pessimistic and cynical opinion I know but if the GAA keeps building up a Super 8 elite, pushes for an intermediate championship, brings in rules without proper consultation, not only will they damage the intercounty game outside Super 8 counties, they'll promote soccer and rugby for talented athletes in non-Super 8 counties. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 22/01/2019 12:57:14 2158872 Link 2 |
I think I must have upset a few Leo fans :-) KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 22/01/2019 13:18:00 2158879 Link 2 |
In response to the two Dubs, don't be getting excited about stereotyping, your at with the Kerry boys here all the time, a lot of it is jousting. Over my years in Artane, Coolock & Dolphins Barn I saw the other side of Dublin, the one where people struggle like some in Donegal or Kerry. Uimhir.a.3. (Galway) - Posts: 409 - 22/01/2019 17:15:56 2158930 Link 3 |
John Horan needs to be more specific about the €500,000 for clubs & overseas units, will that be for juvenile as well as adult clubs, hurling & football ? Or vested clubs in the GAA only ? Will LGFA & Camogie units be included ? will a specific sum be given to all directly into their accounts or is it sent to County Boards only for distribution ? Will overseas units in every continent benefit ? I would never believe Croke Park again on money going to clubs, when we voted to open Croke Park years ago we were told the same story, every club would benefit directly financially, in Connacht not one cent went into any club account. Hopefully some journalist with guts will push Croke Park to clarify this. Uimhir.a.3. (Galway) - Posts: 409 - 22/01/2019 17:37:53 2158938 Link 3 |
lol All 5 of them jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20589 - 22/01/2019 17:57:14 2158941 Link 1 |
Traditionally Connacht has one rugby school in comparison to plenty in Leinster, including Tipperary! Those Leinster schools are not stuck for cash nor will be anytime soon. Arguably Rugby is the fourth most popular sport in Connacht but IRFU are making strides in primary schools in non-rugby traditional areas, if that's t hge right term? Connacht are well behind the curve compared t ok other provinces, not too long ago they were nearly extinct. A lack of a 3G or 4G hasn't hindered their slowish progress. DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 22/01/2019 18:09:28 2158948 Link 0 |
Why is anyone surprised in ticket price increases? With everyone now demanding we dumb down venues to play in totally inappropriate grounds were is the revenue shortfall going to come from? I know most couldn't care less, but it has to come from somewhere. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4892 - 22/01/2019 18:23:24 2158951 Link 0 |
Well I'm not a Leo fan or a fan of the party he represents so you haven't upset me. Im going to get a record number of red thumbs for this but I don't fully buy this narrative of it being all a case of a booming Dublin /east coast and an economically stagnant/depressed rest of the country. Yes there's a twin track economy and there's unbalanced regional development and more jobs need to be brought to the regions but there's lots of places around the country doing well too. According to the CSO the average national industrial wage for those in full time employment was 46,407 EUR at the end of 2017. When part time employment is included the average comes down to 37,646 EUR . Workers in IT and other hi-tech companies are likely to be earning considerably above the average. There are plenty of those kind of jobs outside The Pale too. The seasonally adjusted unemployment rate in November 2018 was 5.3% . So unless all the complainers here are hard Marxists, I think they need to take a break from playing their violins and admit that most of them can afford to pay an extra fiver to go and support their county teams.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1898 - 22/01/2019 18:34:42 2158953 Link 1 |
Ya he only got about 6,000 votes and only got in on the 3rd count.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 22/01/2019 19:02:58 2158961 Link 0 |
Garbally College. I'm saying it's traditional based on it's past players and used to be a boarding school. I wouldn't argue that point with you Ormond though, I'm not that up-to-date. Off the top of my head Sligo Grammar would be classed as rugby, The Bish maybe. Not many I can think of that are predominantly rugby schools though. Not like some Leinster, Ulster, Munster schools.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 22/01/2019 19:16:24 2158965 Link 2 |
What are the net values of those industrial wages? Surely they're relative to where you're living, travelling long distances to work, married/single with/without children and a load of other factors. What difference does being a 'hard' Marxist make to these price increases? You're fine with the price increase. That's grand. Not everyone is. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 22/01/2019 19:30:50 2158971 Link 2 |