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Replying To royaldunne:  "Yeah totally agree. Still 4 games left. Anything could happen. But I agree donegal are almost certain to go up even after today. The rest is all unknowns."
Donegal are going nowhere if they continue to play the way they played in the second half against Tipperary.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 11/02/2019 17:32:25    2164620

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "Donegal are going nowhere if they continue to play the way they played in the second half against Tipperary."
Don't Donegal have Murphy, McGlynn and a few more to come back in though? Still look to be the strongest panel in the division.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 11/02/2019 18:57:14    2164649

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "Donegal are going nowhere if they continue to play the way they played in the second half against Tipperary."
If u beat Fermanagh in two weeks (am I right is saying that's who I play) u go back to top. Regardless of what Meath do v cork due to head to head.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/02/2019 20:40:28    2164675

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Replying To kildare73:  "Don't Donegal have Murphy, McGlynn and a few more to come back in though? Still look to be the strongest panel in the division."
Murphy is not going to transform us this year. If you had said McBrearty, I would have agreed all evening with you. McGlynn is a half a game man now. I think that anyone expecting Donegal to improve dramatically this year from last year, or from the beginning of this season to the championship time, should wake up a bit. We have some talented players, but nothing that is going to challenge monaghan nor Tyrone in any meaningful way thins year. I think that we may get to the league 2 final, but after that, I wouldn't be holding my breath.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 11/02/2019 20:45:49    2164677

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Yeah the young lads have added something this year, nothing like the enthusiasm of youth going through gaps that a older player might not, and taken on shots that other lads might try to pass, that been said last week a bit of naivety crept in, and panic. Today against Armagh when they were on top and helped by a gale force wind the likes of Reilly and burke coming off the bench added a bit of calm to the team, also young Devine cane on and popped that goal in. All in all I'm happy but not getting carried away. Still lot of games to play. However today's game would have been one we lost in times gone by, so for that I'm heartened."
Yes a good start for Meath royaldunne. If we both wIn next time out it will be a massive game in Navan. I fancy Meath on form so far to win in Cork. I wouldn't be as confident that Kildare would account for Clare not jut because of our dire performance against Fermanagh who were deserved winners on Sat night but because we have struggled to beat Clare in the last few years. A s we also lost to them in the Div 3 final in 2016 and only barely beat them the following year at home.

This one Will have the tightest finish to Division 2
in years and as you said previously will go all the way to the wire on the last day, possibly going to scoring difference.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2990 - 11/02/2019 21:43:55    2164696

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Replying To lilywhite1:  "Yes a good start for Meath royaldunne. If we both wIn next time out it will be a massive game in Navan. I fancy Meath on form so far to win in Cork. I wouldn't be as confident that Kildare would account for Clare not jut because of our dire performance against Fermanagh who were deserved winners on Sat night but because we have struggled to beat Clare in the last few years. A s we also lost to them in the Div 3 final in 2016 and only barely beat them the following year at home.

This one Will have the tightest finish to Division 2
in years and as you said previously will go all the way to the wire on the last day, possibly going to scoring difference."
Indeed, it'll all come down to last day.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/02/2019 08:23:21    2164745

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Murphy is not going to transform us this year. If you had said McBrearty, I would have agreed all evening with you. McGlynn is a half a game man now. I think that anyone expecting Donegal to improve dramatically this year from last year, or from the beginning of this season to the championship time, should wake up a bit. We have some talented players, but nothing that is going to challenge monaghan nor Tyrone in any meaningful way thins year. I think that we may get to the league 2 final, but after that, I wouldn't be holding my breath."
We are missing our main two Inside Forwards, Michael Murphy and Paddy McBrearty (Injury), we are missing arguably our best half forward Odhran MacNiallais (Club duty), who was considered player of the County Championship this year. On average these 3 players collectively contribute 10 points or more per match. We are also missing other half forwards who have featured regularly in recent seasons like Cian Mulligan (Club duty), Stephen McBrearty, Micheal Carroll (Club duty), Mulligan in particular was making a serious impact coming off the bench.

Defensively we are still missing Neil McGee (Club duty), Frank McGlynn, Paddy McGrath, Anthony Thompson, Daire O'Baoill (Club duty), Mark McHugh (Unknown), Kieran Gillespie (Injury - July or August) and Ciaran McGinley. Odhran McFadden-Ferry (Club duty) is widely expected to be in the running for a wing back or corner back position after a brilliant Club Championship.

In the National League to date, we've consistently fielded a lot of inexperienced players like Conor Morrison, Brendan McCole, Tony McClenaghan, Peadar Mogan, Caolan McGonagle, Jason McGee, Niall O'Donnell, Oisin Gallen. Some of our more experienced players in the National League, like Shaun Patton, Stephen McMenamin, Eoghan Ban Gallagher, Michael Langan and Ciaran Thompson are not actually that experienced at present.

It's a challenge, but thats football, we will get on with it and we will certainly be a lot stronger come May.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1115 - 12/02/2019 09:18:25    2164751

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Murphy is not going to transform us this year. If you had said McBrearty, I would have agreed all evening with you. McGlynn is a half a game man now. I think that anyone expecting Donegal to improve dramatically this year from last year, or from the beginning of this season to the championship time, should wake up a bit. We have some talented players, but nothing that is going to challenge monaghan nor Tyrone in any meaningful way thins year. I think that we may get to the league 2 final, but after that, I wouldn't be holding my breath."
A very downbeat outlook Dm and a somewhat surprising one given ur usually quite level headed. I was in Thurles Sunday and yes the 2nd half was not very encouraging. But it is the 3rd league game of the year and something I would not be getting carried away with yet. In terms of how the team shapes up you Paddy is obviously a very important player. As is MM but imo less so if he is playing midfield when partnered with Hugh McFadden you not going to see too many after burners. But not challenge Tyrone and especially Monaghan? Any of the 3 teams can beat the other on any given day. Donegal have alot to come back and think saying Frank is only a half game man is a bit of a disservice. Def can give u 50 mins plus it is now a 26 man game squad. I do think this weekend could be a big weekend in how the season shapes up. If this Gweedore team can achieve further success the belief and confidence those players with the county can bring could make a huge difference.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 12/02/2019 11:44:38    2164783

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Murphy is not going to transform us this year. If you had said McBrearty, I would have agreed all evening with you. McGlynn is a half a game man now. I think that anyone expecting Donegal to improve dramatically this year from last year, or from the beginning of this season to the championship time, should wake up a bit. We have some talented players, but nothing that is going to challenge monaghan nor Tyrone in any meaningful way thins year. I think that we may get to the league 2 final, but after that, I wouldn't be holding my breath."
And what do you base your assertion on that murphy is not going to transform us this year. murphys presence on the pitch even if hes having a quiet game is immense. hes a leader and if he hits form hes still one of the top players in ireland. add in his freetaking and you get a player,who can turn anygame.. you seem to be making an opinion after one poor result i dont see tyrone or monaghan setting the world alight even with the strong teams both are fielding.. frank mc glynn to alot of people was a one half player four years ago. forget about age hes still one of our top defenders. just look at what andy moran and keith higgins are doing with mayo and both are around franks age.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 12/02/2019 11:51:43    2164786

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On the game at the weekend and where we find ourselves. It was a game which Donegal largely controlled without really hitting any great heights. There was a strong enough breeze to play into in the 2nd half which did make shooting from distance (probably our biggest strength) difficult. But this was still not an excuse for the over indulgence on the ball, ignoring better options when on to ultimately go nowhere....it was difficult to watch at times and hopefully will provide the kick up the backside needed to not take this division for granted. Donegal missed a penalty and basically a walk in goal because of bad decision making and execution. The game changed when one of our players decided to be the keeper (even though Patton was well positioned) and dropped a clanger by diverting a hopeful free into our own net. Another goal soon followed when again a Done gal player from a free won kicked the all straight to a Tipp man who only had the keeper to beat....game over.

That result and others now means the division is literally covered by a blanket. Donegal are still in a strong position but if they play like they did in the 2nd half again they can forget about promotion. Big result for Meath and while Kildare suffered a poor loss it was not the worst weekend to get it. Big game now in LK weekend after next. It will be a huge test for our young players given Roryball will be very hard to play against (and watch for spectators).

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 12/02/2019 11:56:56    2164790

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Replying To rorysboys:  "And what do you base your assertion on that murphy is not going to transform us this year. murphys presence on the pitch even if hes having a quiet game is immense. hes a leader and if he hits form hes still one of the top players in ireland. add in his freetaking and you get a player,who can turn anygame.. you seem to be making an opinion after one poor result i dont see tyrone or monaghan setting the world alight even with the strong teams both are fielding.. frank mc glynn to alot of people was a one half player four years ago. forget about age hes still one of our top defenders. just look at what andy moran and keith higgins are doing with mayo and both are around franks age."
Jaysus Frank not that old :D

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 12/02/2019 12:34:25    2164817

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Replying To panamasam:  "Jaysus Frank not that old :D"
I done frank a disservice all right. hes only 33, moran is 36 and higgins is 34.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 12/02/2019 12:52:37    2164834

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Huge game for us in cork , what venue yet to be seen. I was hoping for puc to see the new stadium but rumors are that it will be moved to pur due to the pitch. Cork are in the doldrums and Meath are certainly improving, however these two counties have history that runs deep and no cork man worth his salt will bow down to a Meath player or team. However I think we have turned a corner under mcentee, it's taken 3 years but I haven't seen such a positive Meath panel in long long time , probably 09/10 since we had this unity and playing as a team.
For that I will go for a very narrow 1/2 point win. With cork showing the pride that they undoubtedly have.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/02/2019 13:43:55    2164856

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Replying To rorysboys:  "I done frank a disservice all right. hes only 33, moran is 36 and higgins is 34."
Is he even 33 yet? Think that might be later in the year and still 32 but stand to be corrected.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 12/02/2019 16:20:19    2164908

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Replying To panamasam:  "Is he even 33 yet? Think that might be later in the year and still 32 but stand to be corrected."
Frank is only 32. And he's not long 32 at that. 33 near the end of the year.

HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 520 - 12/02/2019 19:58:38    2164963

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Replying To HandballRef:  "Frank is only 32. And he's not long 32 at that. 33 near the end of the year."
Ya I thought that alright and to think some in the biased media have been saying he will be retiring soon since 2015/2016. Anyways he had a great year last year and continued form with his club. Once Frank continues to get well managed got a few years left in him. Great man to have around for the younger players.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 12/02/2019 20:32:22    2164970

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Replying To panamasam:  "On the game at the weekend and where we find ourselves. It was a game which Donegal largely controlled without really hitting any great heights. There was a strong enough breeze to play into in the 2nd half which did make shooting from distance (probably our biggest strength) difficult. But this was still not an excuse for the over indulgence on the ball, ignoring better options when on to ultimately go nowhere....it was difficult to watch at times and hopefully will provide the kick up the backside needed to not take this division for granted. Donegal missed a penalty and basically a walk in goal because of bad decision making and execution. The game changed when one of our players decided to be the keeper (even though Patton was well positioned) and dropped a clanger by diverting a hopeful free into our own net. Another goal soon followed when again a Done gal player from a free won kicked the all straight to a Tipp man who only had the keeper to beat....game over.

That result and others now means the division is literally covered by a blanket. Donegal are still in a strong position but if they play like they did in the 2nd half again they can forget about promotion. Big result for Meath and while Kildare suffered a poor loss it was not the worst weekend to get it. Big game now in LK weekend after next. It will be a huge test for our young players given Roryball will be very hard to play against (and watch for spectators)."
Ahem wha ?

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 334 - 12/02/2019 22:22:57    2164996

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Looks like any remaining games involving cork (at home) will be played in Pairc ui rin

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 13/02/2019 19:23:00    2165193

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Fellow Donegal supporters, I am basing my opinion on other seasons, not just this one. I think that if you are saying that we will improve, we will for sure. If you are saying that we can improve to the level needed to compete at the very top level, I am not confident at all. Sorry for the downbeat assessment, but I am looking at Donegal 5 years ago in division 2 when we were flying home and away. This year we are struggling to beat very mediocre teams. Ballybofey was an eyeopener. I wasn't in thurles but we got the beating there that we could have got v clare. Looking at cork away, as dire as they are, we could lose there for sure. Throw in another home defeat against one of the other 3 teams, and we are stuck in division 2 for another year. Just saying, I am not feeling it at all this year. I hope I am wrong.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 13/02/2019 21:34:06    2165212

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Fellow Donegal supporters, I am basing my opinion on other seasons, not just this one. I think that if you are saying that we will improve, we will for sure. If you are saying that we can improve to the level needed to compete at the very top level, I am not confident at all. Sorry for the downbeat assessment, but I am looking at Donegal 5 years ago in division 2 when we were flying home and away. This year we are struggling to beat very mediocre teams. Ballybofey was an eyeopener. I wasn't in thurles but we got the beating there that we could have got v clare. Looking at cork away, as dire as they are, we could lose there for sure. Throw in another home defeat against one of the other 3 teams, and we are stuck in division 2 for another year. Just saying, I am not feeling it at all this year. I hope I am wrong."
I was in both Ennis and Thurles and yes could have easily lost in Ennis. I would not be feeling too downbeat , far too early. In 2014 there was no Super 8's plus the team was not as dismantled as it is now. Donegal actually were in more control of the game last weekend than in Ennis. Played some nice football in 1st half. However the 2nd half was not good but still u got to have some perspective.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 13/02/2019 23:42:19    2165229

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