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Replying To tiobraid:  "Allianz FL Division 2 round 6
Clare v Meath, Cusack Park, 2pm Clare by 1 point
Cork v Donegal, Pairc Ui Rinn, 2pm Cork by 1 point
Kildare v Tipperary, Newbridge, 2.30pm Kildare by 3 points
Armagh v Fermanagh, Athletic Grounds, 3pm Armagh by 1 point"
We're this to come true then the table would be like this

Meath 8
Ferm 8
Kild 7
Don 6
Arm 6
Cork 5
Clare 5
Tipp 3

It be a very interesting last day with all teams playing for something

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 362 - 07/03/2019 22:47:41    2170980

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Meath will beat Clare I've no doubt about it. There the best team we met so far this year. Saw Clare at firsthand down in Ennis they wudnt be at the same level. Fermanagh v Armagh hard to call hopefully Armagh will win but it will be tight. Our game in cork will be tough as well depends a lot on what team we get out and there level of fitness. So at the moment it's meath for me. We have to win our last two with Fermanagh needing to slip up. Being realistic it's a big ask. If my predictions are right I'll be delighted for Meath a great gaa county.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 652 - 08/03/2019 14:27:51    2171092

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Meath will beat Clare I've no doubt about it. There the best team we met so far this year. Saw Clare at firsthand down in Ennis they wudnt be at the same level. Fermanagh v Armagh hard to call hopefully Armagh will win but it will be tight. Our game in cork will be tough as well depends a lot on what team we get out and there level of fitness. So at the moment it's meath for me. We have to win our last two with Fermanagh needing to slip up. Being realistic it's a big ask. If my predictions are right I'll be delighted for Meath a great gaa county."
I think Clare'sbiggest loss all year has been by 3 points and they hammered Cork In Ennis already. I haven't seen Meath play yet this year but I've seen a few of the teams they have beaten and going on that and Clare's form this year and over the last few years, I really think Clare have a good chance of beating Meath.
Div 2 this year has been weaker than other years in my opinion, which is extra disappointing from a Tipp perspective.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2677 - 08/03/2019 20:53:48    2171153

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I think Clare'sbiggest loss all year has been by 3 points and they hammered Cork In Ennis already. I haven't seen Meath play yet this year but I've seen a few of the teams they have beaten and going on that and Clare's form this year and over the last few years, I really think Clare have a good chance of beating Meath.
Div 2 this year has been weaker than other years in my opinion, which is extra disappointing from a Tipp perspective."
Hard to know how strong Division 2 really is this year, but I suspect its definitely a lot stronger than the last year or so.

From a Donegal perspective, Meath so far are probably the standout best side we played in Division 2. It was extremely tight for the whole match, and Meath were unlucky to lose.

While we lost against Tipperary and Fermanagh, we were leading comfortably in the opening half against both sides, and poor second half performance really sank us, conceding 3 very sloppy goals against Tipp and going down to 13 men against Fermanagh tipped the scales in those games. In the Meath match that didn't happen, it was a battle from the get go.

I expect the Kildare game to be really tough, probably as tough as Meath match. Hard to know which Cork will show up, but if they bring it, they will be hard to overcome down in Pairc Ui Rinn.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 497 - 09/03/2019 00:29:52    2171187

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Replying To Commodore:  "Hard to know how strong Division 2 really is this year, but I suspect its definitely a lot stronger than the last year or so.

From a Donegal perspective, Meath so far are probably the standout best side we played in Division 2. It was extremely tight for the whole match, and Meath were unlucky to lose.

While we lost against Tipperary and Fermanagh, we were leading comfortably in the opening half against both sides, and poor second half performance really sank us, conceding 3 very sloppy goals against Tipp and going down to 13 men against Fermanagh tipped the scales in those games. In the Meath match that didn't happen, it was a battle from the get go.

I expect the Kildare game to be really tough, probably as tough as Meath match. Hard to know which Cork will show up, but if they bring it, they will be hard to overcome down in Pairc Ui Rinn."
It's the strongest division 2 in years. To say it's a weak one is talking pure scour . Cause Meath are leading the way some have to show their anti Meath bias by trying to denigrate the league. Whereas they could actually touch on something factual that may explain Meath performance this year. We have targeted the league and promotion, right from game one we were playing at championship pace, the only team in fairness who matched us for the full 70 was donegal. Meath won't win provincial or all ire honors this year, but we can make it back into div 1, they belief in Meath for a long while now has been we will not improve to level required in division 2, we need to be playing in top level. So before the league started Andy and the players who all said the aim for 2019 is promotion, nobody is thinking about championship.
So if someone wanted to have a genuine gripe with Meath they could say, all very well at moment but what happens when the rest of division 2 catch up to the level you are at? And more importantly can you keep that level up the whole way through championship too? Rather than down playing the division.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15918 - 10/03/2019 06:24:04    2171347

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If I were to assess the quality of division 2 I can only compare it to 2014 when we were last in it. I would say it is around the same standard as it was then.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3621 - 10/03/2019 11:12:49    2171366

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Replying To royaldunne:  "It's the strongest division 2 in years. To say it's a weak one is talking pure scour . Cause Meath are leading the way some have to show their anti Meath bias by trying to denigrate the league. Whereas they could actually touch on something factual that may explain Meath performance this year. We have targeted the league and promotion, right from game one we were playing at championship pace, the only team in fairness who matched us for the full 70 was donegal. Meath won't win provincial or all ire honors this year, but we can make it back into div 1, they belief in Meath for a long while now has been we will not improve to level required in division 2, we need to be playing in top level. So before the league started Andy and the players who all said the aim for 2019 is promotion, nobody is thinking about championship.
So if someone wanted to have a genuine gripe with Meath they could say, all very well at moment but what happens when the rest of division 2 catch up to the level you are at? And more importantly can you keep that level up the whole way through championship too? Rather than down playing the division."
You are right, its likely that meath have prioritised promotion to division 1 over everything else this year. I wouldn't be surprised if they win division 2 as well. Hard to agree that there is an anti meath agenda here in posts. I would say that they might be throwing that comment up in the air to wind certain people up, if you know what I mean royaldunne

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3621 - 10/03/2019 11:38:58    2171368

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Replying To Donegalman:  "You are right, its likely that meath have prioritised promotion to division 1 over everything else this year. I wouldn't be surprised if they win division 2 as well. Hard to agree that there is an anti meath agenda here in posts. I would say that they might be throwing that comment up in the air to wind certain people up, if you know what I mean royaldunne"
Probably:). But once we get promoted I don't car

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15918 - 10/03/2019 14:11:43    2171386

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Replying To Donegalman:  "You are right, its likely that meath have prioritised promotion to division 1 over everything else this year. I wouldn't be surprised if they win division 2 as well. Hard to agree that there is an anti meath agenda here in posts. I would say that they might be throwing that comment up in the air to wind certain people up, if you know what I mean royaldunne"
I think it is a case of prioritizing getting promoted over everything else, now all grand once we achieve promotion, most will say ok we had a great league but a bad championship, it will look like a master plan, for future development, however if something should happen in next two games and we miss out on promotion it will be seen as a huge gamble and probably end mcentee reign.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15918 - 10/03/2019 15:43:47    2171402

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I think at the start of the campaign, Division 2 looked very strong on paper but in reality the way things have panned out its actually been quite weak.

Cork so far have been very poor and no one probably thought they were going to be as bad. Tipperary have been weakened by being short a good number of players and they probably operate off one of the smallest pool of players so they have been poor as a result.

Clare have been punching above their weight for a while and they may be caught out this year whilst Donegal have also been fielding a weakened team although they may benefit from this later on in the championship.

So in my opinion the division has been quite weak but this should not take away from Meath who have improved on previous years.

ROYALOPTIMIST (Meath) - Posts: 172 - 10/03/2019 16:14:16    2171418

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Replying To royaldunne:  "It's the strongest division 2 in years. To say it's a weak one is talking pure scour . Cause Meath are leading the way some have to show their anti Meath bias by trying to denigrate the league. Whereas they could actually touch on something factual that may explain Meath performance this year. We have targeted the league and promotion, right from game one we were playing at championship pace, the only team in fairness who matched us for the full 70 was donegal. Meath won't win provincial or all ire honors this year, but we can make it back into div 1, they belief in Meath for a long while now has been we will not improve to level required in division 2, we need to be playing in top level. So before the league started Andy and the players who all said the aim for 2019 is promotion, nobody is thinking about championship.
So if someone wanted to have a genuine gripe with Meath they could say, all very well at moment but what happens when the rest of division 2 catch up to the level you are at? And more importantly can you keep that level up the whole way through championship too? Rather than down playing the division."
I think in Meath's case, they probably do need to operate in Division 1 again in order to take it to the next level. You have been in Division 2 now for too long, and its been clear in Leinster Championship that the likes of Meath, Kildare need to be operating comfortably in Division 1 if they are to really challenge the Dubs.

Anything can still happen with promotion or relegation, but at the minute I would say Meath and Fermanagh are probably going up, although a lot will depend on their Round 7 meeting and whether they have both won their round 6 matches.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 497 - 11/03/2019 20:25:39    2171731

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Replying To Commodore:  "I think in Meath's case, they probably do need to operate in Division 1 again in order to take it to the next level. You have been in Division 2 now for too long, and its been clear in Leinster Championship that the likes of Meath, Kildare need to be operating comfortably in Division 1 if they are to really challenge the Dubs.

Anything can still happen with promotion or relegation, but at the minute I would say Meath and Fermanagh are probably going up, although a lot will depend on their Round 7 meeting and whether they have both won their round 6 matches."
There's a funny thing that might happen after this week, assuming both Meath and Fermanagh win , Meath will be still top of the group, but Fermanagh in second will be promoted while Meath won't be.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15918 - 11/03/2019 21:38:20    2171748

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I'll bid you all the best for a few days as I take myself away briefly from football to my second passion, and hear the call (or roar) of the Cotswolds.
Ps any sure things appreciated:)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15918 - 11/03/2019 22:23:16    2171757

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Replying To royaldunne:  "There's a funny thing that might happen after this week, assuming both Meath and Fermanagh win , Meath will be still top of the group, but Fermanagh in second will be promoted while Meath won't be."
Hope I'm laughing sat eve!

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 169 - 11/03/2019 23:30:58    2171776

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Allianz FL Division 2 round 6
Clare v Meath, Cusack Park, 2pm Clare by 1 point
Cork v Donegal, Pairc Ui Rinn, 2pm Cork by 1 point
Kildare v Tipperary, Newbridge, 2.30pm Kildare by 3 points
Armagh v Fermanagh, Athletic Grounds, 3pm Armagh by 1 point"
I think Meath and Donegal will win away, hopefully our lads will beat Tipp and Armagh/Fermanagh is a coin toss. Meath very much have promotion in their hands and I don't expect them to blow it. Second place in the division is between Fermanagh and Donegal, even if Kildare beat Tipp I wouldn't fancy us getting something in Donegal on the last day with the home side possibly needing the points. If Fermanagh go up it will be an excellent performance by them even if i have my reservations about their style, you can't take it away from them over 7 games.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 836 - 12/03/2019 04:44:07    2171786

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Replying To ROYALOPTIMIST:  "I think at the start of the campaign, Division 2 looked very strong on paper but in reality the way things have panned out its actually been quite weak.

Cork so far have been very poor and no one probably thought they were going to be as bad. Tipperary have been weakened by being short a good number of players and they probably operate off one of the smallest pool of players so they have been poor as a result.

Clare have been punching above their weight for a while and they may be caught out this year whilst Donegal have also been fielding a weakened team although they may benefit from this later on in the championship.

So in my opinion the division has been quite weak but this should not take away from Meath who have improved on previous years."
Summed up perfectly. Def not taking away from Meath have showed a good improvement by all accounts which can only be good for Leinster going forward

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2677 - 12/03/2019 17:01:09    2171894

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Summed up perfectly. Def not taking away from Meath have showed a good improvement by all accounts which can only be good for Leinster going forward"
Fermanagh and armagh are definitely an improvement from Louth and down, Donegal yes hampered with injuries and kildare are better or on par with what went up last year, meath have improved and Clare and cork are about the same as last year, Tipperarys injuries means they went backwards but overall in my opinion the division is stronger then last year, certain meath posters have a problem with the present management team and dont seem they want to see progress, which is not been very optimistic unfortunately.

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 362 - 12/03/2019 18:33:55    2171915

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This weekend I will go with wins for Meath, Kildare, Armagh and Donegal.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12060 - 12/03/2019 23:32:54    2171968

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We need Armagh to beat fermanagh to have a hope imo.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3621 - 13/03/2019 11:33:10    2172014

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Replying To Donegalman:  "We need Armagh to beat fermanagh to have a hope imo."
I see Armagh are struggling with injuries and have Sheridan suspended. Bad news for us. I think no matter what we do in the last 2 games the Tipp and Fermanagh results will scupper our promotion hopes and we'll have nobody to blame but ourselves.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6454 - 13/03/2019 12:08:15    2172020

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