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Laois county board aren't too bad. CmonAymonow (Laois) - Posts: 160 - 14/12/2018 14:51:57 2154283 Link 1 |
So many inaccuracies in that, 1, Mountain South was purchased for €2.8m in 2006 by the Hurling Board which later amalgamated with the Football Board to form a County Board , the sell on price was, from memory, €0.75m 2. Croke Park were asked to investigate matters some 18 months ago and reluctantly stepped up to the plate about 6 months ago 3. The "independent audit" was a review of Financial practices and procedures in place in the County Board offices and a sample financial audit covering the last 6 months so hardly a forensic financial audit (watch this space) 4. To the best of my knowledge,Galway leased Pearse Stadium in its entirety to the promoters, Cork had the good sense to retain the food and beverage sales franchise so you're comparing apples and oranges. dontlookback (Galway) - Posts: 267 - 16/12/2018 00:16:36 2154387 Link 0 |
Tell me what is inaccurate in my post: 1. You've literally repeated what I said. Purchased for €2.8m and sold for less than a million. The decision was taken by the hurling board, which is now affecting the footballers as part of a joint county board. The actual sell price was reported as being less than a million, which €750K as you've mentioned, happens to be. 2. The fact that Croke Park had to step in is the point I made. It highlights how bad the situation is. Whether they it off their own bat or not, I never even mentioned. 3. Who said it was a forensic audit? It was an audit carried out by an independent firm, Mazars, on behalf of Croke Park. In fact, I have no idea how forensic or otherwise it was as very little has been reported. 4. That's the point. The arrangement made by the county board led to the paltry financial return. You haven't contradicted any point I made, only referred to a few things I hadn't even mentioned. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2042 - 16/12/2018 16:18:59 2154403 Link 4 |
Galway County board do not market the game properly. They are content to play second fiddle in the city, to Connacht rugby and Galway Utd soccer. This is not acceptable. People may say I am a bit "fanatical" but as Michael O Leary (Ryanair) said- "You must believe in your product and what you are doing". galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 16/12/2018 16:43:58 2154405 Link 2 |
I was wondering myself where the inaccuracies were as the reply more or less validated all your point.
Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 944 - 16/12/2018 23:51:49 2154446 Link 2 |
Ok let's start with a school lesson Inaccuracy = an aspect of something that is not accurate 1. €750k is €250k shy of €1M, suggest you don't apply for any jobs that require simple maths. 2. Croke Park were asked to intervene 12 + months before they actually did, suggest you obtain a new calender every year 3. "hardly a forensic financial audit" is a more complete representation of what was a lack of numbers in the feedback back to delegates by Mazars, suggest you consult the Parish GAA guru or get off the couch and put some of that spare time into the GAA at Club level or heaven forbid the dizzy heights of County level. 4. Should you ever read or listen to an informed & reliable source for your "information" you'd possess the knowledge that the Ed arrangement was not, I repeat NOT made by the County Board. Should you feel the need to have any of that further diluted to a level of comprehension I've never yet had to stoop to, please grow a pair and ask your supervisor. dontlookback (Galway) - Posts: 267 - 21/12/2018 00:17:30 2154870 Link 0 |
a general question.do people think that capital projects for county boards across the country should be managed centrally rather than by county board? perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 21/12/2018 10:09:13 2154891 Link 2 |
I'll get you a new dictionary for Christmas, so you can look up the definition of "less than". 1. I stated that it was sold for less than €1m, which is exactly what has been reported in local media (https://connachttribune.ie/gaas-mountain-south-to-be-turned-into-a-e20m-soccer-centre-of-excellence-132/). You say this statement is inaccurate because it was sold for €750K. I'd suggest a trip back to rang a dó, so you can figure out what's wrong with your comment. 2. I never said anything about when or who asked Croke Park to step in. You're the only person who has brought that up. My point, as I mentioned already, is the fact that they are involved highlights the significance of the issues. 3. You seem to be arguing with yourself again in this one. My only statement was that an independent firm were carrying out an audit, which was done. I made no mention of it being detailed or anything else. 4. The county board run the venue. They made €2 per person from the concerts versus €12 per person which Cork made from their gigs. Here's a task for you. Quote something from my original post verbatim, and state what is inaccurate about it. Don't be adding bits on that I've never even mentioned and then having a rant with yourself about them. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2042 - 21/12/2018 20:37:21 2154956 Link 2 |
That is one of the most arrogant and condescending posts I've seen here. 1. He said less than €1million. 750k is less than a million so he was correct to say less than a million. 2. He said croke park had to be asked to intervene, which they did. You've just said the same 3. Explain the difference between an audit and a forensic audit? An audit is a forensic look at the finances of an organization 4. He just said the levels of income made from the concerts were very low. Which was accurate. You went into the reasons for it Where exactly are all these inaccuracies you speak so arrogantly of? 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 21/12/2018 21:19:19 2154960 Link 3 |
Simply wow, mansplaining at its finest, your knowledge or more to the point, lack of, about the issues surrounding Galway GAA is astounding. Copy and paste a few more media articles that might lean toward backing up your ill informed opinions that way we'll get a few more keyboard warriors on side. Top jungle tip for today is don't believe everything you read on any media, it's possible there might be a hint of sensationalism to boost sales. Better still get off your lazy backside and put some effort into your local GAA club or County, that might actually give you some credence when you open your beak on GAA matters. dontlookback (Galway) - Posts: 267 - 21/12/2018 22:40:26 2154970 Link 0 |
Christ, not another one. 1. Numbers are accurate, not words when money is involved 2. The time delay is the critical factor, unless of course you're of a mind that a year is a short time 3. Incorrect, an audit is establishing the facts based on the terms of reference , a forensic audit deals with financial matters that may be subject to legal proceedings. 4. I'm not sure you've read the bit where I said "Should you ever read or listen to an informed & reliable source for your "information" you'd possess the knowledge that the Ed arrangement was not, I repeat NOT made by the County Board" And as for arrogance and condescension, the thought that you and your new found Galway friend think that by reading a few media articles you've got the inside scoop on a juicy bit of gossip is beyond arrogance. The condescending part is laughable in your case insofar as I doubt you've got the ability to name 3 officers of Galway GAA as I wouldn't for Wexford GAA without the aid of Google yet somehow your miniscule knowledge of Galway GAA entitles you to an opinion similar to your new best friend. Have a titter of wit like a good lad and stick to the keyboard gaming. dontlookback (Galway) - Posts: 267 - 21/12/2018 23:05:28 2154972 Link 0 |
Are you condoning the facts that have been brought forward highlighting serious financial irregularities ? You seem to want to bury the whole story for some reason. Fair play to Michael Burke for having the courage & honesty to expose the facts, which as one delegate who was on the review Committee said "was rotten to the core". Everybody involved in Galway GAA knew the politics & shenanigans that have been going on for years. You are very adamant that it wasn't the County Board that entered agreement with the Ed S promotion, seeing as your putting down wan pint win so categorically on this why don't you tell us who did. Whether it was the CEO, Pearse Stadium Committee, Football Board, they all come under the remit of the County Board who are ultimately responsible. They would have to have full knowledge of it as issues over permission for usage, insurance would all come in to play. With the office under the stand, it would be kind of hard for them not to know what was going on. For years the way these things were hidden was to shout down or discredit those who raised the issues or playing politics with clubs & individuals, those days are gone & there is a lot more dirty laundry to be aired. Don't look back, very apt for some who don't want the facts coming out.
Uimhir.a.3. (Galway) - Posts: 409 - 22/12/2018 09:23:19 2154982 Link 3 |
Interesting interpretation if not a twist on what you've read here, let's get a few things straight just for your benefit :- 1. I and I believe, a majority Galway GAA Supporters would welcome a full forensic audit of the County Board finances with the findings being made public. 2. That shoots down your "bury the whole story" theory. 3. I believe the delegate referenced the culture with his "rotten to the core" statement 4. He wasn't on a "review committee" he was a member of an internal financial audit, the findings of which haven't been made public yet and may never see the light of day for reasons best known to the legally trained experts. 5. I believe a full forensic audit is legally admissible in a court of law and would stop the generalised statements from people who think they have the best interests of Galway GAA at heart. Example 1 - "Everybody involved in Galway GAA knew the politics & shenanigans that have been going on for years". Conclusion 2 - you like the sound of your own voice coming out with tar brushing statements that demean every one of the good people that have worked & continue to work for Galway GAA & it's Clubs, many for decades and largely on a voluntary basis. Example 2 - "it would be kind of hard for them not to know what was going on" Conclusion 2 - Like your other brothers in arms on here you've not actually got a handle on the facts that have been reported, let alone the full facts (does anybody) and haven't taken heed of what the problems were. Suggestion - arm yourself with facts and information, not suppositions and conspiracy theories about Galway GAA before your next effort at rolling up your sleeves and giving me a piece of your mind through a blood stained keyboard. Honestly, I doubt you can afford to be giving away either brain or blood cells, much like the rest of the gormless wits you seem so eager to align yourself with. Now run off to the local and stick your chest out when you've had a few pints and tell your mates how you've put your shoulder to the wheel in a way that will sort out all the problems of Galway GAA. dontlookback (Galway) - Posts: 267 - 22/12/2018 11:21:21 2154988 Link 1 |
Interesting interpretation if not a twist on what you've read here, let's get a few things straight just for your benefit :- 1. I and I believe, a majority Galway GAA Supporters would welcome a full forensic audit of the County Board finances with the findings being made public. 2. That shoots down your "bury the whole story" theory. 3. I believe the delegate referenced the culture with his "rotten to the core" statement 4. He wasn't on a "review committee" he was a member of an internal financial audit, the findings of which haven't been made public yet and may never see the light of day for reasons best known to the legally trained experts. 5. I believe a full forensic audit is legally admissible in a court of law and would stop the generalised statements from people who think they have the best interests of Galway GAA at heart. Example 1 - "Everybody involved in Galway GAA knew the politics & shenanigans that have been going on for years". Conclusion 2 - you like the sound of your own voice coming out with tar brushing statements that demean every one of the good people that have worked & continue to work for Galway GAA & it's Clubs, many for decades and largely on a voluntary basis. Example 2 - "it would be kind of hard for them not to know what was going on" Conclusion 2 - Like your other brothers in arms on here you've not actually got a handle on the facts that have been reported, let alone the full facts (does anybody) and haven't taken heed of what the problems were. Suggestion - arm yourself with facts and information, not suppositions and conspiracy theories about Galway GAA before your next effort at rolling up your sleeves and giving me a piece of your mind through a blood stained keyboard. Honestly, I doubt you can afford to be giving away either brain or blood cells, much like the rest of the gormless wits you seem so eager to align yourself with. Now run off to the local and stick your chest out when you've had a few pints and tell your mates how you've put your shoulder to the wheel in a way that will sort out all the problems of Galway GAA. dontlookback (Galway) - Posts: 267 - 22/12/2018 11:36:19 2154989 Link 0 |
You have admitted the very same facts as the galway poster your giving out about. 1. Is 750,000 is less than a million? Yes 2. Were Croke park were involved? Yes 3. Did a special audit have to be conducted? Yes 4. Were tiny profits in comparison to cork made on concerts? Yes You've gone into explaining reasons for these things, but you've yet to disprove any of the basic facts from above 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 22/12/2018 17:49:25 2155011 Link 3 |
Yes but the old football board had their own centre of excellence (one of the first in the country) in Loughgeorge which was fit for purpose for one code. Now not so fit given the demands with the board amalgamation (a good move) and it being used by all teams football and hurling. Would have made far more sense back in the day investing in a Loughgeorge extension as opposed to a few hurling heads doing a solo effort that has saddled us with this debt.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 22/12/2018 20:22:04 2155019 Link 0 |
Can't disagree with any of that
dontlookback (Galway) - Posts: 267 - 22/12/2018 21:01:06 2155028 Link 0 |
So you failed to do it. Quote something exactly from my first post and say what is inaccurate about it. You seem to think people are claiming to have the inside knowledge on this story. All that's been done is some basic points mentioned, none of which you've actually contradicted. You're the one with the inside track it seems, so please do share the detail. You seem like the type of lad who argues with his own shadow at the end of the bar, after a few too many whiskeys. You haven't a clue what I or others do for our local clubs. It's ironic that you keep throwing out the label 'keyboard warrior' when you seem to be epitome of the term. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2042 - 23/12/2018 01:26:44 2155036 Link 2 |
Lads until the County Board is run like Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 23/12/2018 09:21:54 2155038 Link 1 |
100% agree, although, from my understanding, in the "new" set up there's going to be a full time "Operations Manager" with a strong financial skill set (basically an accountant) and the Secretary will be a voluntary position.
dontlookback (Galway) - Posts: 267 - 23/12/2018 11:43:05 2155044 Link 0 |