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New Kick Out Rule Change

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The new kick out rule means all kick outs must be taken from the 20 meter line. It has not been clarified how far the ball must travel before a team can gain possesion of the ball. Under the old rule kick outs were taken from the 13m line and must pass the 20m line before being touched by a player from the same team. When the new kick out rule was first proposed it was stated that the kick out could be taken anywhere along the 20m line with in the arc.

Can anyone clarify how far the ball can travel before being touched?

I believe the new rule changes will lead to encouraging the short kickout more often considering how precious possesion will be with the 3 hand pass rule. The initial proposed kickout where the ball must surpass the 45m line would have cut out the short kick out leading to more high ball contest and more xciting games. I think they went too far this time, why not trial the handpass rule for the preliminary tournements before bringing it in for the league??

arsebiscuits (Carlow) - Posts: 56 - 24/11/2018 18:03:13    2152309

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Replying To arsebiscuits:  "The new kick out rule means all kick outs must be taken from the 20 meter line. It has not been clarified how far the ball must travel before a team can gain possesion of the ball. Under the old rule kick outs were taken from the 13m line and must pass the 20m line before being touched by a player from the same team. When the new kick out rule was first proposed it was stated that the kick out could be taken anywhere along the 20m line with in the arc.

Can anyone clarify how far the ball can travel before being touched?

I believe the new rule changes will lead to encouraging the short kickout more often considering how precious possesion will be with the 3 hand pass rule. The initial proposed kickout where the ball must surpass the 45m line would have cut out the short kick out leading to more high ball contest and more xciting games. I think they went too far this time, why not trial the handpass rule for the preliminary tournements before bringing it in for the league??"
I thought the ball having to reach the 45 was the amended version to be honest, with the first proposed change being only the midfielders can be between the 45's for a kick out.
If not, I don't think short kick outs will be increased, 21 yards is a long way to backtrack if one was to go wrong!

Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 45 - 24/11/2018 18:51:24    2152313

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ah sure like everything else, they haven't thought it through properly...there is no stipulation as to how far the ball has to travel...now the goalie can chip the ball 2 yards into his colleagues hand...(and i thought they set out to amend the kickout to encorage more kicks to midfield...unbelievable!

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1614 - 24/11/2018 20:01:04    2152318

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Replying To Sweetspot:  "I thought the ball having to reach the 45 was the amended version to be honest, with the first proposed change being only the midfielders can be between the 45's for a kick out.
If not, I don't think short kick outs will be increased, 21 yards is a long way to backtrack if one was to go wrong!"
Does the kick-out have to be played forward?

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1400 - 24/11/2018 23:17:25    2152337

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "ah sure like everything else, they haven't thought it through properly...there is no stipulation as to how far the ball has to travel...now the goalie can chip the ball 2 yards into his colleagues hand...(and i thought they set out to amend the kickout to encorage more kicks to midfield...unbelievable!"
In the case of a free is the ball not supposed to travel 13m before it can be played by anyone from the team that took the free. Presumably a kick out would be governed by the same rule.

AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 320 - 25/11/2018 17:39:36    2152387

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Replying To AHP:  "In the case of a free is the ball not supposed to travel 13m before it can be played by anyone from the team that took the free. Presumably a kick out would be governed by the same rule."
Ball doesn't have to travel 13 metres, the players must be 13 metres away. Exception being the current kick out where the ball must go past the 20 metres line.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1763 - 25/11/2018 18:19:30    2152392

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Replying To shaggylegend:  "Ball doesn't have to travel 13 metres, the players must be 13 metres away. Exception being the current kick out where the ball must go past the 20 metres line."
so a player can start his run to the keeper from a starting position of 13 metres and have the ball chipped just 4 or 5 metres which he runs on to....oh what a shambles this is going to be!

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1614 - 25/11/2018 21:11:45    2152401

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To follow up on an earlier post where I asked if the kick-out has to go forward, can the full-back simply chip the kick-out from the 20 metre line back to his keeper thus retaining possession?

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1400 - 25/11/2018 22:23:39    2152411

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Ball always had to travel 13m on the kick out before it can be played by a player on the defending team. An attacking player could play it once he was 13m away when the kick was taken. This has not changed.

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 202 - 26/11/2018 11:15:32    2152445

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For me this is all about pushing up on kick out to be honest.

If you are taking kick outs from the 20 metre line, everyone and their granny is going to push up on every kick out as it reduces the space and gaps in behind people have to cover, not a fan to be honest just makes innovation and a particular tactical skill universal.

Uninspiring GAA.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 1891 - 26/11/2018 11:32:09    2152449

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Replying To Torcaill:  "Ball always had to travel 13m on the kick out before it can be played by a player on the defending team. An attacking player could play it once he was 13m away when the kick was taken. This has not changed."
As already stated by myself and other posters; the current kickout requires kickouts to be taken from the 13m and only must pass the 20m line (minimum of 7meters) so far it has not been clarified how far the ball must travel or if it must be played forward.

arsebiscuits (Carlow) - Posts: 56 - 26/11/2018 13:14:29    2152468

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A kick out must travel 13 metres that is the only stipulation on distance in the rule book. A keeper may kick the ball more than one during a kick out as long as he doesn't take it into his hands. So in essence a keeper can dribble the ball up the field.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1763 - 26/11/2018 14:20:22    2152478

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Replying To arsebiscuits:  "As already stated by myself and other posters; the current kickout requires kickouts to be taken from the 13m and only must pass the 20m line (minimum of 7meters) so far it has not been clarified how far the ball must travel or if it must be played forward."
As shaggy has stated, the rule book is clear in stating that the ball must travel 13m before being played by a team mate. This rule has not been changed!!

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 202 - 26/11/2018 22:02:13    2152532

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Without starting a new thread what do people think of the mark getting extended from the original inside the 20 to anywhere inside the 45 once the ball travels 20 mtr and is kicked from outside the 45

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 391 - 26/11/2018 22:21:59    2152536

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These rule changes will separate the wheat from the chaff in terms of Gaelic Footballs essential skills, kicking and catching. For me this will give teams like Dublin and Kerry a huge advantage as there actual ball skills in terms actuate kicking and catching are actually far superior to most of the other sides who cover up for a lot of the skill deficiency through the overuse of the handless and huge emphasis on athleticism. Teams with more limited ball skills will now be badly exposed. No wonder some players are scared of these changes as their actual skill limitations will be highlighted. Teams are not going to be able to just run and run and handless and handpass ad nauseam, they are actually forced to play Gaelic football as it was intended.

Kingdomson (Kerry) - Posts: 187 - 26/11/2018 23:14:19    2152547

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Replying To Kingdomson:  "These rule changes will separate the wheat from the chaff in terms of Gaelic Footballs essential skills, kicking and catching. For me this will give teams like Dublin and Kerry a huge advantage as there actual ball skills in terms actuate kicking and catching are actually far superior to most of the other sides who cover up for a lot of the skill deficiency through the overuse of the handless and huge emphasis on athleticism. Teams with more limited ball skills will now be badly exposed. No wonder some players are scared of these changes as their actual skill limitations will be highlighted. Teams are not going to be able to just run and run and handless and handpass ad nauseam, they are actually forced to play Gaelic football as it was intended."
What is the big skill in catching a ball? The big player has the advantage over the smaller player. Now we want to give the big player even more of an advantage by giving him a free shot at goal. Why discriminate against the smaller player. Is he not as important to the GAA as the big player?

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1400 - 27/11/2018 14:15:22    2152607

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