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The scenes at the Kerry semi final from the coverage was probably the worst melee we have seen this year. There was geniune punches thrown - other incidents had a bit of pushing and shoving but little else. The headlines from the Kerry game concentrate on the positives of the game with a mention of the ugly scences. This is how it should be but lets call a spade a spade, is it any wonder there is some paranoia in Ulster. Any form of melee up there and any postive play during the football match is forgotten about, replaced by a national outcry. I doubt we will have newspaper articles, phone ins and weeks of national debate over this one. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 22/10/2018 11:09:49 2147626 Link
The only talking point coming out of the match is the melee. I've only seen videos of the melee, no highlights of the goals or the game. Don't for the life of me know how you could think this is worse than the lads hopping fences to go fighting with the crowds in Derry and Down recently or the usual carry on that goes on in Tyrone. The mentor who hit the player should be given a year ban, the boys who hopped the fence, threw punches at supporters etc should also be given a year ban. LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 22/10/2018 12:10:57 2147644 Link
The mentor who hit the player should be given a lifetime ban. No argument. ball girl (Leitrim) - Posts: 194 - 22/10/2018 13:02:44 2147663 Link
I know its whats in GAA coaching literature etc but if someone is jumping in to fight etc then theyre no "mentor" DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 22/10/2018 13:13:11 2147666 Link
I know its whats in GAA coaching literature etc but if someone is jumping in to fight etc then theyre no "mentor" DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 22/10/2018 13:13:11 2147667 Link
Replying To LarryOBrother: "The only talking point coming out of the match is the melee. I've only seen videos of the melee, no highlights of the goals or the game. Don't for the life of me know how you could think this is worse than the lads hopping fences to go fighting with the crowds in Derry and Down recently or the usual carry on that goes on in Tyrone. The mentor who hit the player should be given a year ban, the boys who hopped the fence, threw punches at supporters etc should also be given a year ban." Sweet jesus. What happened in Tyrone that was worse than this? It's handbags when it's outside of Ulster?/? gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/10/2018 14:21:07 2147693 Link
Replying To LarryOBrother: "The only talking point coming out of the match is the melee. I've only seen videos of the melee, no highlights of the goals or the game. Don't for the life of me know how you could think this is worse than the lads hopping fences to go fighting with the crowds in Derry and Down recently or the usual carry on that goes on in Tyrone. The mentor who hit the player should be given a year ban, the boys who hopped the fence, threw punches at supporters etc should also be given a year ban." Sorry but your post smells of the Anti Ulster bias that is becoming more and more obvious amongst the association. Noboby condones what happened in Ulster this year, but to say it's worse than a mentor almost knocking out an opposing player confirms my argument. I know it goes against a certain agenda, and I'm very sorry to have to break the news - the GAA has the same problem in Kerry as it has in the likes of Tyrone. Football is not pure in Kerry where everybody plays the game the right way without any violence. It's very easy to paint Ulster football a certain way, but the facts don't support that agenda. There is plenty of good football in Ulster like there is in all provinces, and there is sadly some violence in Ulster which is also repeated in all provinces and yes that includes the "lovable" Kerry. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 22/10/2018 15:15:15 2147706 Link
did i see a lad trying to give someone the boot on the ground aswell.? theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 22/10/2018 15:59:25 2147714 Link
David Clifford is better off heading to Australia if this is what he has to put up with for the next 15 years. Clifford is no dirty player no doubt he was getting dogs abuse. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 22/10/2018 16:00:18 2147716 Link
I wonder could a lot of this "posturing" be down to the growth in popularity in UFC/MMA in recent years? Everyone wants to be the hard man it seems. I saw a video doing the rounds of a crowd of Irish fans no better than English football yobs taunting and trying to intimidate some Russian lads after the McGregor fight. One hero in particular was determined to prove his credentials. Up until some Russian boy laid him out. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 22/10/2018 16:30:52 2147726 Link
I don't see why people would be surprised that something has happened in Kerry. It was going on earlier in the year. We even seen a suspension to Stephen Wallace (former offaly manger) being handed out. It was at this stage that HQ should have put a clear message out that this wasnt acceptable. juicy (Meath) - Posts: 399 - 22/10/2018 16:41:23 2147728 Link
Replying To ball girl: "The mentor who hit the player should be given a lifetime ban. No argument." Would agree fully with you. Striking the player when he wasn't looking could have broken his jaw. neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 22/10/2018 16:49:15 2147732 Link
Replying To sam1884: "Sorry but your post smells of the Anti Ulster bias that is becoming more and more obvious amongst the association. Noboby condones what happened in Ulster this year, but to say it's worse than a mentor almost knocking out an opposing player confirms my argument. I know it goes against a certain agenda, and I'm very sorry to have to break the news - the GAA has the same problem in Kerry as it has in the likes of Tyrone. Football is not pure in Kerry where everybody plays the game the right way without any violence. It's very easy to paint Ulster football a certain way, but the facts don't support that agenda. There is plenty of good football in Ulster like there is in all provinces, and there is sadly some violence in Ulster which is also repeated in all provinces and yes that includes the "lovable" Kerry." It's not Anti Ulster at all its just a fact that incidents like that happen way more often up there. Go through the list of all the reported "incidents" this year and you'll see a trend developing fairly quickly. The real issue is people lamenting about bias and discrimination instead facing the fact that there is a problem with discipline in the first place. Third man in should get a 2 month ban and it would stop an awful lot of individual rows developing into full on melees. LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 22/10/2018 17:04:58 2147736 Link
Replying To LarryOBrother: "It's not Anti Ulster at all its just a fact that incidents like that happen way more often up there. Go through the list of all the reported "incidents" this year and you'll see a trend developing fairly quickly. The real issue is people lamenting about bias and discrimination instead facing the fact that there is a problem with discipline in the first place. Third man in should get a 2 month ban and it would stop an awful lot of individual rows developing into full on melees." The key word in your reply is "reported".. There is no problem with people facing the fact there is a discipline problem. The problem does lye though in the fact the media have been allowed to protray this as issue in one part of the country. This issue was so bad the media had no choice but to report it! This proves it is not an Ulster problem and the agenda has been shown up. Discipline is a problem across the whole of the GAA! sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 22/10/2018 17:56:21 2147743 Link
Replying To LarryOBrother: "It's not Anti Ulster at all its just a fact that incidents like that happen way more often up there. Go through the list of all the reported "incidents" this year and you'll see a trend developing fairly quickly. The real issue is people lamenting about bias and discrimination instead facing the fact that there is a problem with discipline in the first place. Third man in should get a 2 month ban and it would stop an awful lot of individual rows developing into full on melees." It happens too often and is thuggery. Maybe they are better at reporting as their communication systems may be better than ours. Did you not know that we have no coverage in large swathes of the country! browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 22/10/2018 18:05:03 2147745 Link
Replying To LarryOBrother: "It's not Anti Ulster at all its just a fact that incidents like that happen way more often up there. Go through the list of all the reported "incidents" this year and you'll see a trend developing fairly quickly. The real issue is people lamenting about bias and discrimination instead facing the fact that there is a problem with discipline in the first place. Third man in should get a 2 month ban and it would stop an awful lot of individual rows developing into full on melees." I agree with all of your comments on discipline in general. These issues need to be dealt with harshly and clubs need to own up and take responsibility , rather than protecting those involved and looking for loopholes. I disagree however with your statement that "incidents like that happen way more often up there". Unless you have some facts to back that up, you're basing it on perception. We had an incident here in Galway of a ref being flattened by a supporter, the weekend before last, after a Senior Football Quarter Final. It received minor national coverage. This is a national issue and scapegoating certain areas does very little to address it. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2042 - 22/10/2018 18:10:28 2147746 Link
The GAA is great at giving in to popular opinion so HQ will want to be seen to act on this. I'd say there will be lengthy suspensions dished out across the board (Kerry, Derry, Down, Tyrone or wherever else footage emerges from). Is there a surge this year or it is more folks grabbing there phones to film it? It is very hard to know. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 22/10/2018 18:48:57 2147754 Link
Replying To sam1884: "The scenes at the Kerry semi final from the coverage was probably the worst melee we have seen this year. There was geniune punches thrown - other incidents had a bit of pushing and shoving but little else. The headlines from the Kerry game concentrate on the positives of the game with a mention of the ugly scences. This is how it should be but lets call a spade a spade, is it any wonder there is some paranoia in Ulster. Any form of melee up there and any postive play during the football match is forgotten about, replaced by a national outcry. I doubt we will have newspaper articles, phone ins and weeks of national debate over this one." Don't agree. Said be fore and will say again, geography has NOTHING to do with It , it was very unsavory and punishment needs to be dished out and appeals need to be ignored. The only difference I guess with the one that pushed me over the edge was that it wasn't brought onto terraces and car park (at least not to my knowledge) however it's still disgraceful and not where we want game to be heading. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 22/10/2018 22:17:04 2147796 Link
To much effort being outraged every single week to be honest, it happens in every county, in every province all over the country, always has. Only difference is everyone has a smart phone now a days. I think if you take some of the passion and aggression out of the game we all get a bit precious, you don't want GAA to end up like Soccer when kicking a water bottle is a arresting offense. Lads all probably laughed about it after the game. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 22/10/2018 22:58:17 2147809 Link
Yet another PR disaster for the GAA, mobile phone footage of melees, women hit, refs assaulted, supporters, management, players all involved in free for all punch ups, people kicked in the head on the ground & not an ounce of condemnation or a statement from the leadership in Croke Park ? How many other sports this week will show a track suited sideline official run up & flatten a player with one punch, the answer is none, just the GAA. Any actions taken are usually reversed later as we saw with the case in Limerick. Uimhir.a.3. (Galway) - Posts: 409 - 22/10/2018 23:08:47 2147811 Link