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Replying To Miami305:  ""Ballyhale are an incredible club, a rural parish with a big ability to regenerate quickly; 16 of the 2015 All-Ireland- winning panel are no longer around."

From Anto Daly in the Irish Examiner. Pretty incredible turnover rate that still yielded a Leinster Championship."
The young guys they've brought in are hurling out of their skins, you add them to the fennellys and Reid brothers and that's some side.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 754 - 03/12/2018 17:27:55    2153209

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "How did Boden lose ? Don't we have all the money best coaches and population in the world?"
84 teams I hear some say , but at the end of the day you only play 15 players which Ballyhale did and were far superior, Boden will be back Dublin club hurling is getting stronger

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5186 - 04/12/2018 13:45:38    2153303

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Replying To Bon:  "The young guys they've brought in are hurling out of their skins, you add them to the fennellys and Reid brothers and that's some side."
The top class coaching, huge drive and hunger for success mixed with good breeding has always produced top class hurlers in the small village of Ballyhale. They absolutely live for hurling in the parish.

A new generation has come through now and I think they will deliver a few more club all Irelands over the next 10 years.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 208 - 04/12/2018 16:36:17    2153320

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Yeah its some club. No to it about it. Robert Plomin has wrote a book called 'Blueprint' which challenges the modern notion that nurture has as much impact in an individual as nature. His studies show that it doesn't matter how we are brought up our genes will 95% decide how we will turn out . The only caveat is that our childhood must not have a catastrophic episode. So our fates are pre ordained.Ballyhale would prove his point .

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1166 - 05/12/2018 17:11:11    2153414

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Yeah its some club. No to it about it. Robert Plomin has wrote a book called 'Blueprint' which challenges the modern notion that nurture has as much impact in an individual as nature. His studies show that it doesn't matter how we are brought up our genes will 95% decide how we will turn out . The only caveat is that our childhood must not have a catastrophic episode. So our fates are pre ordained.Ballyhale would prove his point ."
So our fates are pre ordained.Ballyhale would prove his point .

Just because somebody wrote a book about 'his studies;'; doesn't make it a mater of fact (as you state).

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 713 - 08/12/2018 01:01:43    2153649

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  " So our fates are pre ordained.Ballyhale would prove his point .

Just because somebody wrote a book about 'his studies;'; doesn't make it a mater of fact (as you state)."
and i suppose mullinlaghta had some form of genetic right to win on sunday?
for me,the only thing that matters is how hard you work.if you work hard,anything is possible.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3496 - 12/12/2018 11:03:03    2154064

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Yeah its some club. No to it about it. Robert Plomin has wrote a book called 'Blueprint' which challenges the modern notion that nurture has as much impact in an individual as nature. His studies show that it doesn't matter how we are brought up our genes will 95% decide how we will turn out . The only caveat is that our childhood must not have a catastrophic episode. So our fates are pre ordained.Ballyhale would prove his point ."
With that attitude, it's good for Limerick you weren't a member of their management team this year cos they wouldn't have won the All Ireland!!!

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1305 - 12/12/2018 13:05:01    2154078

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Yeah its some club. No to it about it. Robert Plomin has wrote a book called 'Blueprint' which challenges the modern notion that nurture has as much impact in an individual as nature. His studies show that it doesn't matter how we are brought up our genes will 95% decide how we will turn out . The only caveat is that our childhood must not have a catastrophic episode. So our fates are pre ordained.Ballyhale would prove his point ."
I think you should read that book again.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12723 - 12/12/2018 13:53:44    2154086

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Replying To Bon:  "The young guys they've brought in are hurling out of their skins, you add them to the fennellys and Reid brothers and that's some side."
It helps when you have a family or multiple families that supply the team with multiple players out of one house. The Cannings of Portumna or all the Burkes on the St Thomas's team for example.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 491 - 14/12/2018 13:17:47    2154265

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Replying To Trump2020:  "It helps when you have a family or multiple families that supply the team with multiple players out of one house. The Cannings of Portumna or all the Burkes on the St Thomas's team for example."
I agree with you Trump2020 but also it helps when them brothers are all highly skilled and not just taking up space.

WoodlawnPat (Galway) - Posts: 288 - 19/12/2018 03:38:48    2154678

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Replying To WoodlawnPat:  "I agree with you Trump2020 but also it helps when them brothers are all highly skilled and not just taking up space."
Agreed.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 491 - 21/12/2018 01:16:22    2154873

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "With that attitude, it's good for Limerick you weren't a member of their management team this year cos they wouldn't have won the All Ireland!!!"
That makes no sense. Do you think that because the currebt Limerick teams parents havent won an All Ireland that it disproves the fact that genetics are hugely important in life and sport ?? They played a huge role in the Limerick win this year
Half of that Limerick hurling team or more have All Ireland winners in their genetics going back to the 1920s ,30s . I'm being abit broad but the statistics are there . Only left wing social engineers try to downplay the effect of genetics on life outcomes.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1166 - 21/12/2018 09:51:24    2154885

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Replying To bloodyban:  "That makes no sense. Do you think that because the currebt Limerick teams parents havent won an All Ireland that it disproves the fact that genetics are hugely important in life and sport ?? They played a huge role in the Limerick win this year
Half of that Limerick hurling team or more have All Ireland winners in their genetics going back to the 1920s ,30s . I'm being abit broad but the statistics are there . Only left wing social engineers try to downplay the effect of genetics on life outcomes."
Nicky Quaid is the grandson of Jack Quaid who played for years with Limerick, along with his twin brother Jim and on the other side his Grace granfather played with Kilkenny. Of course his father Tommy was an Al Star goalkeeper as was his first cousin Joe. Sean Finns father, Brian, captained Limerick to a National League win in 1992, Ritchie McCarthy's Granduncle was an All Ireland winning full back in '34 and '36. All Richie Englishe's uncles, the Fitzgibbons, were too class hurlers and one of their sons Darragh is the current All Star Cork midfielder.. Declan Hannon is a scion of the famous Stakelum and Ryan families of Borrisoleigh and Tipp fame. Cian Lynch is a nephew of Ciarian Carey an All Star center back and his grandfather and grand uncle also played with Limerick.. Gearoid Hegarty is the son of an All Ireland hurler Ger as is Seamus Flanagan. Kyle Hayes is a great grand nephew of Mickey Cross one of the greatest wing backs Limerick, or indeed anywhere else ever produced, He played in no less than five All Ireland Finals and played wing back in a top class team for fifteen years and Ger Mulcahy, my nomination all day long for hurler of the year is the nephew of a fine Limerick corner back Donie Barry. So anybody who tries to say that their is 'no hurling breeding' in this Limerick side simply knows nothing about them

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2284 - 21/12/2018 22:25:08    2154967

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Nicky Quaid is the grandson of Jack Quaid who played for years with Limerick, along with his twin brother Jim and on the other side his Grace granfather played with Kilkenny. Of course his father Tommy was an Al Star goalkeeper as was his first cousin Joe. Sean Finns father, Brian, captained Limerick to a National League win in 1992, Ritchie McCarthy's Granduncle was an All Ireland winning full back in '34 and '36. All Richie Englishe's uncles, the Fitzgibbons, were too class hurlers and one of their sons Darragh is the current All Star Cork midfielder.. Declan Hannon is a scion of the famous Stakelum and Ryan families of Borrisoleigh and Tipp fame. Cian Lynch is a nephew of Ciarian Carey an All Star center back and his grandfather and grand uncle also played with Limerick.. Gearoid Hegarty is the son of an All Ireland hurler Ger as is Seamus Flanagan. Kyle Hayes is a great grand nephew of Mickey Cross one of the greatest wing backs Limerick, or indeed anywhere else ever produced, He played in no less than five All Ireland Finals and played wing back in a top class team for fifteen years and Ger Mulcahy, my nomination all day long for hurler of the year is the nephew of a fine Limerick corner back Donie Barry. So anybody who tries to say that their is 'no hurling breeding' in this Limerick side simply knows nothing about them"
Some very good breeding in that team! They'll be tough to stop in 2019 too.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 491 - 28/12/2018 18:29:03    2155204

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Some very good breeding in that team! They'll be tough to stop in 2019 too."
Thanks for the reply. 2019 should be another huge hurling year. I would particularly fear both Waterford and your own county, although any of the big three, Clare, Dublin or Wexford could pose a huge threat. We can only look forward with renewed hope.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2284 - 29/12/2018 10:49:20    2155232

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Thanks for the reply. 2019 should be another huge hurling year. I would particularly fear both Waterford and your own county, although any of the big three, Clare, Dublin or Wexford could pose a huge threat. We can only look forward with renewed hope."
I think Tipp will come back strong. And as long as Cody is coaching KK you have to respect them.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 491 - 29/12/2018 19:42:41    2155266

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Replying To bloodyban:  "That makes no sense. Do you think that because the currebt Limerick teams parents havent won an All Ireland that it disproves the fact that genetics are hugely important in life and sport ?? They played a huge role in the Limerick win this year
Half of that Limerick hurling team or more have All Ireland winners in their genetics going back to the 1920s ,30s . I'm being abit broad but the statistics are there . Only left wing social engineers try to downplay the effect of genetics on life outcomes."
You are the lad that is making no sense - on so many levels. But lets stick to the sport aspect - do you therefore think that anyone who does not have 'pedigree' should refrain from aspiring to competing at the top level?

MiAmigaVERONICA (Clare) - Posts: 258 - 30/12/2018 11:18:06    2155284

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Replying To MiAmigaVERONICA:  "You are the lad that is making no sense - on so many levels. But lets stick to the sport aspect - do you therefore think that anyone who does not have 'pedigree' should refrain from aspiring to competing at the top level?"
Statistics are there. Genetics are a huge part in determining life outcomes. We are only scimming the surface.
To answer your question. I think everyone should or can aspire to compete at the highest level. Some without 'pedigree' as you say might indeed get there. But those with pedigree will have a much higher chance of getting there. That's basic stuff. 'An ounce of breeding beats a tonne of feeding'.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1166 - 30/12/2018 14:04:25    2155291

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Happy New Year lads & lassies!

All Ireland club intermedate and junior semi finals on this weekend:

Saturday 19 January

All-Ireland club IHC semi-final
Graigue-Ballycallan (Kilkenny) v Charleville (Cork), Semple Stadium, 2pm


Sunday 20 January

All-Ireland club IHC semi-final
Oranmore-Maree (Galway) v St Galls (Antrim), Parnell Park, 2pm

All-Ireland club JHC semi-finals
Carrick (Leitrim) v Castleblayney (Monaghan), TEG Cusack Park, 2pm
Dunnamaggin (Kilkenny) v Cloughduv (Cork), Fraher Field, Dungarvan, 2pm

For the first time ever there will be a club team from either Leitrim or Monaghan in an All Ireland final.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 471 - 18/01/2019 15:49:19    2158039

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Replying To PortInFaithful:  "Happy New Year lads & lassies!

All Ireland club intermedate and junior semi finals on this weekend:

Saturday 19 January

All-Ireland club IHC semi-final
Graigue-Ballycallan (Kilkenny) v Charleville (Cork), Semple Stadium, 2pm


Sunday 20 January

All-Ireland club IHC semi-final
Oranmore-Maree (Galway) v St Galls (Antrim), Parnell Park, 2pm

All-Ireland club JHC semi-finals
Carrick (Leitrim) v Castleblayney (Monaghan), TEG Cusack Park, 2pm
Dunnamaggin (Kilkenny) v Cloughduv (Cork), Fraher Field, Dungarvan, 2pm

For the first time ever there will be a club team from either Leitrim or Monaghan in an All Ireland final."
It'll be great to see new blood in a final. Best of luck to both counties/clubs.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 491 - 18/01/2019 17:44:58    2158062

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