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The mark is a great idea as long as there is no diddy daddling on the free. Hand pass rule would be good but 3 handpasses are far too little and would not work 7 handpasses is more realistic. Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 301 - 02/10/2018 17:14:44 The rule about hand passes is to stop the over use of the handpass. 7 passes Who'd be a referee. Counting handpasses, checking zones, a deck of cards with different rules depending on the sequence they're shown in, tracking direction of kicks. You'd nearly need zone based referees to keep track of affairs with so many parameters in play. It's a game of football at the end of the day not a space shuttle launch. Rules like 3 handpasses then kick sound great on paper but in practice I think this would be difficult for players to adapt to, years of playing with instinct, and difficult to referee. So if there are 3 handpasses in your 45 and you receive the ball just outside your 45 then solo charge to the other team's parallelogram you can't dish a handpass out to your half forward to clip a point when you come into contact with the backs? Sounds like a bit of a knee jerk reaction. Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 3312 - 02/10/2018 17:20:08As a ref counting handpasses is easy to do. I dont see how having to kick after a certain number of handpasses is difficult to manage. It just needs ref to count out loud handpasses "1....2.....3...kick pass now" And i dont see how it would be difficult for players to adapt to. All you need to do to hand pass again is kick pass once and then hand pass again. DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 02/10/2018 22:37:30 2144870 Link 0 0 |
Three hand passes passes followed by a short kick-pass (maybe backward) followed by another three hand passes and so on, would change very little. DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 02/10/2018 22:41:21 2144871 Link 0 0 |
First they are just that, Experimental Rule Changes, let us see what affect they have on the game and then decide. But all this chit-chat for years now is achieving nothing all the while the game goes down the tube. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 3896 - 02/10/2018 22:52:15 2144875 Link 1 0 |
These rules changes remind me of when Homer Simpson was allowed to design a car and just added anything that popped into his mind. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 2223 - 02/10/2018 22:53:49 2144876 Link 2 0 |
What momentum? Have you not being watching the dross on offer atm?
Tadhgmacda (Limerick) - Posts: 89 - 02/10/2018 23:00:57 2144878 Link 0 0 |
How many average club goalkeepers can kick the ball past the 45 consistently. Add in a stiff wind and they are really in trouble. Can't see that one working. How many handpasses did Meath make for one of the most famous goals of all time against the dubs in 1990. Good handpassing moves can be great to watch. Skippy2 (Carlow) - Posts: 24 - 02/10/2018 23:07:39 2144879 Link 1 0 |
Utter madness. A committee dominated by "hurling people" making rule suggestions for football?? Only one of the committee has coached football at an elite level (Cuthbert). These rules potentially take the fluidity and creativity out of the game. The result will be a game devoid of movement: keeper take a long kickout to big midfielder to claims a mark; the game stops; the midfielder kick a high ball into a Donaghy-style full-forward; he claims a mark and the game stops. He kicks an unopposed point; Opposing keeper now starts this sequence from the other end... football first (None) - Posts: 1109 - 02/10/2018 23:18:55 2144880 Link 0 0 |
Can you kick pass the ball to yourself?? (otherwise known as a solo!!)...
football first (None) - Posts: 1109 - 02/10/2018 23:21:48 2144881 Link 0 1 |
Are you talking about Brollys ideas about kick outs ?, are the kick outs/ zonal rules here not similar to Brollys ideas ?
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 491 - 02/10/2018 23:45:51 2144884 Link 0 0 |
A shot clock. Kickitwillya (Cavan) - Posts: 6 - 03/10/2018 00:08:36 2144887 Link 0 0 |
I like the extension of the mark and the six bin. Not sold on the rest, as others have pointed out the game is already too hard to officiate. I know these are only proposals but even at that it's overkill. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 993 - 03/10/2018 00:14:17 2144889 Link 0 0 |
"They're meddling with forces they can't possibly comprehend..." Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 310 - 03/10/2018 00:27:42 2144891 Link 0 0 |
From a free tho basically and my point is because this will be seen as a way to get a score teams will deploy more defensively to stop a player making a mark. The thought process behind it is wrong. I'm all for trying out stuff but stuff that will improve the game.
Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1202 - 03/10/2018 00:27:49 2144892 Link 0 0 |
A few things, They should state was the desired outcome of the rule change is. What do you want the game to be? Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 124 - 03/10/2018 00:45:33 2144893 Link 0 0 |
C'mon Whammo - I respect you more than that ! Two major problems in gaelic football - 1) ultra defence; and 2) Dubs inter-county dominance. To address 1) - start with Brolly exclusion zone, BUT tweak - it certainly needs tweaking for sure, AND 'don't throw out the baby with the bath water'. I would change the zone rule to require a minimum 'two players per side inside' - before a 3rd forward needs to be marked. To address 2) - this is more problematic - my suggestion was add new teams to the inter-county AI SFC from the population centres - e.g. Dublin City North, Dun Laighaire and Cork West: and combine border neighboring minnows - e.g. South Leinster. The minnows could revert to county jersey for the tiered NFL. omahant (USA) - Posts: 1418 - 03/10/2018 01:10:08 2144894 Link 0 0 |
Impossible game now for referees. I think their bases are already loaded as it is. All these new changes will mean the introduction of a 2nd official. Otherwise, human nature will not be able to keep up with the demands. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3396 - 03/10/2018 02:29:00 2144898 Link 0 0 |
I'm more and more convinced that there exists a committee at HQ who make up stuff like this just to justify their own existence. muffinbutton (Clare) - Posts: 20 - 03/10/2018 04:31:04 2144899 Link 0 0 |
The aim is to stop the short kick outs going about 5 meters which are a disease in the game. In reality we won't go back to 2 big midfielders competing for high kick outs most of the time but the goal keeper kicking the ball wide for players to run into. But this should be a big improvement on where we at and in parallel with zonal rule for kickouts there will be much more space for a midfielder to kick the ball into the forwards.
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 491 - 03/10/2018 08:13:37 2144901 Link 0 0 |
Could be a bit of an issue for some but since the kicking tee was brought in most can make 45 m line.
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 491 - 03/10/2018 08:22:13 2144902 Link 0 0 |
The extension if the mark, that is the one that worries me. Was at an Aussie rules match, it has good fielding but can be very stop start sport.
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 491 - 03/10/2018 08:36:07 2144904 Link 0 0 |