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Is Dublin's Success False, Tarnished And Bought?

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Replying To TheUsername: "But also games, if you make a comparison to the Dublin and Kerry team 4 in a rows, Kerry played 19 to get to 5 All Ireland Finals, Dublin have 28 to get to four All Ireland finals." True but you got to balance that out against the number of players they used (think it's just 18) during that period keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 06/09/2018 14:53:51 2139837 Link
Replying To keithlemon: "True but you got to balance that out against the number of players they used (think it's just 18) during that period" Still doesn't really balance things out though Dubs will be well into the high 30's if they are to even reach a 5th final That's quite a gap.. not even remotely close when considering how difficult it can be win a single game Not sure that's balanced at all... jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 06/09/2018 15:16:13 2139841 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "This is a bit of a daft assessment of it all. No marquee player outside of Dublin???" Im basically saying they don't have players that are good enough to win. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 06/09/2018 15:33:28 2139843 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Still doesn't really balance things out though Dubs will be well into the high 30's if they are to even reach a 5th final That's quite a gap.. not even remotely close when considering how difficult it can be win a single game Not sure that's balanced at all..." It would take Dublin 36 games (presuming there was no replay) in the modern era to get to where the Kerry team got to in 19 games in that era of the early 80s, Dublin in this moment sit at 28. I think the Wexford four in a row team got to about 23 (with one by). Shows how much football has changed. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 06/09/2018 16:07:08 2139850 Link
Maybe not jimbo but I just wanted to throw that out there as another measure for people to factor in Back in their day it was all about the starting 15 as opposed to today keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 06/09/2018 16:13:11 2139852 Link
Replying To keithlemon: "Maybe not jimbo but I just wanted to throw that out there as another measure for people to factor in Back in their day it was all about the starting 15 as opposed to today" Far slower Easier to last the pace with fewer players jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 06/09/2018 16:56:09 2139863 Link
Didn't know participation rates in the capital were under 3%. Sounds like an increase in funding is needed. Pantani (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 06/09/2018 16:58:15 2139864 Link
Training, strength and conditioning and diet wasn't at the same level it is now..... I know I'm reaching here but they're all factors nevertheless keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 06/09/2018 17:09:37 2139866 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "It would take Dublin 36 games (presuming there was no replay) in the modern era to get to where the Kerry team got to in 19 games in that era of the early 80s, Dublin in this moment sit at 28. I think the Wexford four in a row team got to about 23 (with one by). Shows how much football has changed." So say there is a replay like in 15,16 That'll be 37.. 1 game short of being TWICE as many games to win a modern 5 in a row compared to what it took Kerry to try and win their 5 in a row... That's a sort of eye opening stat no? If Kerry won as many games in a row that it will take Dublin to win a modern 5 in a row they'd have probably won.. what.. 8 in a row? Haha Even if they pulled off what Dublin currently sit at (28) they'd have got to a 6 and close to 7 in a row Sort of highlights just how impressive Dublin's current run is... Well it would be impressive. Being the greatest run in GAA history and all that.. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 06/09/2018 17:10:36 2139867 Link
Replying To realdub: "Im basically saying they don't have players that are good enough to win." Maybe if some of the wealth is shared teams like leitrim could afford a few more development officers to help improve the players and the game in leitrim. No wait a minute money doesn't help a team I forgot. ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 06/09/2018 17:13:12 2139869 Link
Not bought no. I'd be more annoyed about all their home games than any funding they get. I think those that make the loudest noise about funding on here are the same people who's own counties have considerable advantages over most other counties in Ireland Dublin aside. lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 06/09/2018 17:14:34 2139871 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "It would take Dublin 36 games (presuming there was no replay) in the modern era to get to where the Kerry team got to in 19 games in that era of the early 80s, Dublin in this moment sit at 28. I think the Wexford four in a row team got to about 23 (with one by). Shows how much football has changed." The number of games might have been smaller but the gap between teams was also smaller. Unlike today especially in the dublin championship. Or is it the leinster championship? ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 06/09/2018 17:15:18 2139872 Link
Replying To realdub: "Im basically saying they don't have players that are good enough to win." Dublin were in a very similar position not so long ago Don't remember us whinging crying out that the sky was falling What I remember is showing up year after year along with 10's of thousands of other Dubs watching on as we got embarrassed.. didn't stop us though.. we still got on with it jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 06/09/2018 17:17:51 2139873 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "Just on the financial piece and in particular GDF. The actual figure Dublin take out of GAA central funds is 200k. The remainder of the 1 mill is provided by the ISC annually to promote and fund underage development of Gaelic games in Dublin. Arguably if the ISC funding is cut tomorrow. The GAA have a massive problem on their hands, essentially what would happen everyone would be a looser, Dublin would likely receive more money out of central funds for games development, funding would be cut for counties elsewhere. Politically can the GAA turns down an added 1million "grant" for want of a better word. Dublins funding is far more political then people think. So really the role of the GAA is a bit limited here despite the heat they often take. In the short term it would have little to do with the senior team, The Dublin Senior teams across the board are self funded by the revenue they create in fact they have a bit to spare." Dublin get 200k from central funds Dublin get 1m from ics Dublin teams are self funding Aig sponsorship alone is 800k a year. I think the fraud squad should be called as it is clear that the Gaa are brining in millions and alot of well informed dublin fans are telling us that dublin are not getting it other counties are not getting it Jesus where did it all go. ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 06/09/2018 17:28:49 2139875 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Dublin were in a very similar position not so long ago Don't remember us whinging crying out that the sky was falling What I remember is showing up year after year along with 10's of thousands of other Dubs watching on as we got embarrassed.. didn't stop us though.. we still got on with it" I remember alot of dubs winging when they were not winning all around them. ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 06/09/2018 17:32:09 2139876 Link
Replying To superbluedub: "Still at this Railway Cup nonsense !! Jesus wept." At least I've offered a solution. Congratulations on Sunday. It was an impressive display. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7871 - 06/09/2018 17:35:33 2139877 Link
http://res.cloudinary.com/dvrbaruzq/image/upload/dpngzz6dhxfr7i6nl6o1.pdf Go to page 68. 40M€ given out by the GAA. Dublin got 2M€........5%. Included in these monies we got 1.2M€ of the 9M€ for Games Development 13% Figures for 2017. Based on these % we should ask for more! witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 06/09/2018 17:41:47 2139879 Link
Replying To ulsterrules: "I remember alot of dubs winging when they were not winning all around them." You need to change that drastically unrealistic username or are you all about spouting fiction ? jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 06/09/2018 17:44:33 2139881 Link
Really? Another article of anti Dublin bitterness, seriously get over it PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 06/09/2018 17:46:07 2139882 Link
Replying To keithlemon: "Training, strength and conditioning and diet wasn't at the same level it is now..... I know I'm reaching here but they're all factors nevertheless" CLICK!!!! There goes your back mate ;) jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 06/09/2018 17:49:07 2139885 Link