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There seems to be an agenda to make sure Rory Beggan is robbed of his all star this year. Rory has been simply magnificent all year for Monaghan, we wouldn't have made the semi final without him. He long range point scoring was simply out of this world. He kickouts were magnifant and gave Monaghan a massive platform which was the one of the key element of our season. Stephen Cluxton will go down as the best goalkeeper of all time, he had a brilliant year but Rory was on a level above Stephen this year. Don't rob the lad of his deserved award. shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1928 - 02/09/2018 23:00:36 2138572 Link
Not much to choose between either keeper. Both made mistakes for high balls into the square this year which led to goals but still played very well overall. Beggan probably pips Cluxton for me because of some of his great long range frees, and I reckon he'll get the All-Star. Stephen Cluxton is very easy to ignore for All-Stars in anyways but Beggan would be my choice in anyways. Don't think there's any such campaign though. Cluxton, I think was in the Sunday Game team of the year last year but Clarke got the nod if memory serves at the All-Stars. Again not much to choose between them although I thought Cluxton was magnificent last year and probably had more of a case than he does this year. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 03/09/2018 08:22:52 2138610 Link
Replying To shaggylegend: "There seems to be an agenda to make sure Rory Beggan is robbed of his all star this year. Rory has been simply magnificent all year for Monaghan, we wouldn't have made the semi final without him. He long range point scoring was simply out of this world. He kickouts were magnifant and gave Monaghan a massive platform which was the one of the key element of our season. Stephen Cluxton will go down as the best goalkeeper of all time, he had a brilliant year but Rory was on a level above Stephen this year. Don't rob the lad of his deserved award." I put up a thread last year about how disgusted I was that Stephen Cluxton didn't win an all star for me it was a shocking call that he was left out he was outstanding in '17 he never put a foot wrong from league to all Ireland final , but I have to agree with this poster Cluxton has been outstanding again this year but Beggan was unbelievable for Monaghan and I think he deserves his all star but you know well cause they totally messed up last year by omitting Cluxton that's why he will get in this year imo. Either way I'll be happy whoever gets the keeper award between the two . clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/09/2018 08:29:21 2138613 Link
If I could pick one player to sign, it would be Beggan. The ability to drive the kickout into the opponents half as well as pick out your man with a short ball means you're on the front foot with every kickout. To be able to kick a point from 65 yards is a huge addition to any team. BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 206 - 03/09/2018 08:44:23 2138618 Link
Monaghan will not get 3 all stars, and were never going to get 3 on team of the year. mcmanus nailed on, o se wanted karl oconnell on the team. so beggan loses out to AI winning captain. The situation will be reversed for All stars, Beggan gets it and oconnell drops out Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1064 - 03/09/2018 08:58:25 2138622 Link
don't rule out the Laois keeper either Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 03/09/2018 09:30:03 2138629 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "I put up a thread last year about how disgusted I was that Stephen Cluxton didn't win an all star for me it was a shocking call that he was left out he was outstanding in '17 he never put a foot wrong from league to all Ireland final , but I have to agree with this poster Cluxton has been outstanding again this year but Beggan was unbelievable for Monaghan and I think he deserves his all star but you know well cause they totally messed up last year by omitting Cluxton that's why he will get in this year imo. Either way I'll be happy whoever gets the keeper award between the two ." He was particularly bad in the 1st half of last year's final. That's what cost him IMO. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 03/09/2018 09:45:08 2138635 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "He was particularly bad in the 1st half of last year's final. That's what cost him IMO." Wasn't bad at all mayo pushed up brilliantly he'd no option but to kick the ball out 50/50 it's up to his midfielders to win it then. Cluxton is judge so much harsher than anyone else it's crazy. The Mayo keeper last 3 kick outs won us the all Ireland in '17 in '16 he gifted us 3 kick outs to makes us go 3 up and we got out of there with a draw thanks to Clarke. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/09/2018 10:05:54 2138646 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Wasn't bad at all mayo pushed up brilliantly he'd no option but to kick the ball out 50/50 it's up to his midfielders to win it then. Cluxton is judge so much harsher than anyone else it's crazy. The Mayo keeper last 3 kick outs won us the all Ireland in '17 in '16 he gifted us 3 kick outs to makes us go 3 up and we got out of there with a draw thanks to Clarke." Hold on. . If Mayo pushing up meant Cluxtob can't be to blame, then where does tackling every Mayo player to the ground leave Clarke?? cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 03/09/2018 10:20:20 2138664 Link
Replying To shaggylegend: "There seems to be an agenda to make sure Rory Beggan is robbed of his all star this year. Rory has been simply magnificent all year for Monaghan, we wouldn't have made the semi final without him. He long range point scoring was simply out of this world. He kickouts were magnifant and gave Monaghan a massive platform which was the one of the key element of our season. Stephen Cluxton will go down as the best goalkeeper of all time, he had a brilliant year but Rory was on a level above Stephen this year. Don't rob the lad of his deserved award." If he was so great why didn't he save Clifford's shot in Clones? Or Sludden's shot in the semi? Keeper's main job is to prevent goals after all. Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 03/09/2018 10:22:17 2138666 Link
As clondalkin says I think Beggan will get the all star, I wouldn't get too wrapped up in this team of the year stuff on the Sunday Game, its not always reflective of who makes the All Stars. Cluxton had another consistently excellent season but Beggan made more headlines, put in some great performances as well and semi final kick aside, nothing can take away that performance against Kerry. I think he'll get the all star for that game alone. A great season for Monaghan and I expect them to get 3 All Stars of Beggan, O'Connell and McManus keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 03/09/2018 10:22:46 2138668 Link
Replying To Barnowl94: "If he was so great why didn't he save Clifford's shot in Clones? Or Sludden's shot in the semi? Keeper's main job is to prevent goals after all." Then Brody gets it at a canter and Cluxton should have all his previous awards taken off him. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 03/09/2018 19:50:13 2138944 Link
Replying To Barnowl94: "If he was so great why didn't he save Clifford's shot in Clones? Or Sludden's shot in the semi? Keeper's main job is to prevent goals after all." Cliffords goal was just banged into the one place that neither Beggan nor the defenders could get to. Sluddens was a great block on the edge of the square and it luckily for Tyrone landed at Sluddens foot and he buried it well. Again not much can be done as it was one of those things. I would think however the one goal that Monaghan let in that would disappoint Beggan most is the Fermanagh goal. Long high ball that he normally would deal with but big Donnelly managed to get there first and it flew in. Also it beat 2-3 other Monaghan players. As for the rest of the Kerry game in clones it was a masterclass by Beggan. Some of the restarts that day were ridiculous by any standard. He drove the ball into the chest of players, Floated others to the wing and walloped one almost the length of the pitch. Throw in a few long range frees and it was some display (Brody's display in Navan against Monaghan was also up there as one of the best displays of the year) Tim_NicebutDim (Monaghan) - Posts: 347 - 04/09/2018 15:49:10 2139175 Link
Replying To Barnowl94: "If he was so great why didn't he save Clifford's shot in Clones? Or Sludden's shot in the semi? Keeper's main job is to prevent goals after all." And the prize for stupidest message goes to.......... FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 564 - 04/09/2018 16:07:56 2139183 Link
he's good enough at long range frees and kickouts, but he isn't great at being an actual keeper in my opinion, looks like he's rather be playing centre back. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2756 - 04/09/2018 22:44:45 2139286 Link
Replying To keithlemon: "As clondalkin says I think Beggan will get the all star, I wouldn't get too wrapped up in this team of the year stuff on the Sunday Game, its not always reflective of who makes the All Stars. Cluxton had another consistently excellent season but Beggan made more headlines, put in some great performances as well and semi final kick aside, nothing can take away that performance against Kerry. I think he'll get the all star for that game alone. A great season for Monaghan and I expect them to get 3 All Stars of Beggan, O'Connell and McManus" I wouldn't get too wrapped up in the All Stars either. Always political voting involved which means not all the best players get selected. We can't give that position to player X as player Y from same county has already got one, whereas county "Z" have none yet and they won a provincial championship so they need one. Like a case could be made (and is by a lot of their fans on here) that Rory Beggan, Drew Wylie, Karl O'Connell and Conor McManus deserve All-Stars. Will Monaghan get four? Beaten semi-finalists! Will they hell as like, should they be the outstanding players in that position or not two will be max allowed to a losing semi-finalist who came through the back door. benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 04/09/2018 22:47:38 2139287 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "he's good enough at long range frees and kickouts, but he isn't great at being an actual keeper in my opinion, looks like he's rather be playing centre back." He's good enough at long frees and kick outs ? He's the best in the country at both . He is the best long range free taker the game has ever seen . He's played 16 league and championship games .12 of those were against teams who played in Division One this year. He conceded seven goals in this sixteen games. That's first class in any man's language . Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 05/09/2018 00:19:03 2139307 Link
All Stars should go to players who holds up in the big games under the biggest pressure. Beggan was unreal in some games especially during the first half against Kerry, he wasnt as influential in the second half when under more pressure from both kick outs and free kicks. But the moment that stands out is the silly moment against Tyrone when he prob got carried away with himself and his abilities and went for that hail mary which was at a pivotal moment. An All Star wins you big games...not loses them. Cluxton for me wins the keeper award. woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 05/09/2018 11:34:34 2139388 Link
Replying To Eddie the Exile: "Monaghan will not get 3 all stars, and were never going to get 3 on team of the year. mcmanus nailed on, o se wanted karl oconnell on the team. so beggan loses out to AI winning captain. The situation will be reversed for All stars, Beggan gets it and oconnell drops out" Your right Monaghan will not get 3 allstars and will be lucky to get 2, for you to say O se, wanted O Connell on the team is insulting to that lad. He's on it because he's one of the best in the country in his position Fact. Monaghan may not like this comment bur lads he was your game changer he brought the team speed pace which was never there till he announced himself on the county stage, your county editorial bias towards this player has not gone unnoticed. Like it or not he is a driving force in this team, if I remember correctly Beggan Mc manus and O Connell were nominated in 2015, but there is a dark horse in keeper role here and that would be brody I wouldn't rule him out. To say O Connell is there because of O se well that's an insult. This is going to be a tough one for the keepers This is were politics come into play I'm guessing Beggan and McManus if 2 are given to monaghan shameful that O Connell will miss out but hey that's football MrsO (Dublin) - Posts: 4 - 11/09/2018 13:42:17 2141012 Link
Replying To shaggylegend: "There seems to be an agenda to make sure Rory Beggan is robbed of his all star this year. Rory has been simply magnificent all year for Monaghan, we wouldn't have made the semi final without him. He long range point scoring was simply out of this world. He kickouts were magnifant and gave Monaghan a massive platform which was the one of the key element of our season. Stephen Cluxton will go down as the best goalkeeper of all time, he had a brilliant year but Rory was on a level above Stephen this year. Don't rob the lad of his deserved award." Where or who is this agenda against Beggan? Bit of a Trumpesque statement witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 11/09/2018 15:26:11 2141036 Link