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Replying To OpenStand:  "Gaelic football has become characterless and boring hence many neutrals couldn't be bothered to watch it or not . Like a Meath poster said earlier as a child I'd have the tv on from md morning awaiting the game but now I'm not bothered if I see it or not .
The whole game has become too clinical , analytic , defensive etc ... unless rule changes can work the game of Gaelic football is under serious pressure in many counties ."
The passing years take their toll?

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 31/08/2018 16:48:13    2137973

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The closer this gets the more real it's feeling ... being....it......on

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 31/08/2018 19:16:33    2138009

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Nearer it gets the more nervous I get.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 31/08/2018 19:45:38    2138019

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Replying To realdub:  "Nearer it gets the more nervous I get."
Always. I don't care if we're playing against members of the Council for the Blind, no offence. We should always be nervous. The team should also be nervous. It drives us all on. Complacency loses games. Convert that nervous energy to drive and we're halfway there, as Bon Jovi would say.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 31/08/2018 20:38:09    2138027

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Begrudgery. This final is a difficult one for fans from other Southern counties. On the one hand, in theory, people would like to see Dublin losing one, for a change. There is that jealousy of Dublin by this stage. The problem then is that the team in position to attempt this near-impossible feat is Tyrone, a team that is generally detested by other counties' fans. An ideal result for many would be that both teams lose ... So it's difficult to bring yourself to admit to much interest in a game between a county you're jealous of and a county you'd secretly rather was banned from the competition in the first place. Throw in the additional factor that Dublin are raging favourites to run away with this one, and there's your reasons. A probable mismatch between two teams that the rest of the country can't stand. Still, we're very popular among ourselves ;)

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 31/08/2018 21:05:57    2138034

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Replying To essmac:  "Begrudgery. This final is a difficult one for fans from other Southern counties. On the one hand, in theory, people would like to see Dublin losing one, for a change. There is that jealousy of Dublin by this stage. The problem then is that the team in position to attempt this near-impossible feat is Tyrone, a team that is generally detested by other counties' fans. An ideal result for many would be that both teams lose ... So it's difficult to bring yourself to admit to much interest in a game between a county you're jealous of and a county you'd secretly rather was banned from the competition in the first place. Throw in the additional factor that Dublin are raging favourites to run away with this one, and there's your reasons. A probable mismatch between two teams that the rest of the country can't stand. Still, we're very popular among ourselves ;)"
I'm sure that like Dublin fans for the most part, the vast majority of Tyrone people don't care about what the rest of the country think of them

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 31/08/2018 21:14:20    2138035

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Replying To essmac:  "Begrudgery. This final is a difficult one for fans from other Southern counties. On the one hand, in theory, people would like to see Dublin losing one, for a change. There is that jealousy of Dublin by this stage. The problem then is that the team in position to attempt this near-impossible feat is Tyrone, a team that is generally detested by other counties' fans. An ideal result for many would be that both teams lose ... So it's difficult to bring yourself to admit to much interest in a game between a county you're jealous of and a county you'd secretly rather was banned from the competition in the first place. Throw in the additional factor that Dublin are raging favourites to run away with this one, and there's your reasons. A probable mismatch between two teams that the rest of the country can't stand. Still, we're very popular among ourselves ;)"
Like trying to decide between a kick to the balls or a punch to the teeth for some I'd say.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 31/08/2018 21:20:08    2138037

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Love gaa but no real interest in this final. Who to shout for? You'd miss Mayo

gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 636 - 31/08/2018 21:45:02    2138045

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Replying To essmac:  "Begrudgery. This final is a difficult one for fans from other Southern counties. On the one hand, in theory, people would like to see Dublin losing one, for a change. There is that jealousy of Dublin by this stage. The problem then is that the team in position to attempt this near-impossible feat is Tyrone, a team that is generally detested by other counties' fans. An ideal result for many would be that both teams lose ... So it's difficult to bring yourself to admit to much interest in a game between a county you're jealous of and a county you'd secretly rather was banned from the competition in the first place. Throw in the additional factor that Dublin are raging favourites to run away with this one, and there's your reasons. A probable mismatch between two teams that the rest of the country can't stand. Still, we're very popular among ourselves ;)"
Totally agree I called it weeks ago of the GAA version of Sophie's Choice , except in this version the masses didn't want to save anyone, and I punted it particularly at Kerry were it must be killing them to choice to the point one poster just won't watch , at least we still have the geography teacher trying to redesign the provinces of Ireland, next year if there were two less talented teams in the final the fact that they weren't US you would find a completely different narrative

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 31/08/2018 21:51:11    2138046

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Have to pull you up on that one. The All Ireland hurling final is the biggest day in Irish sport. Nothing has or ever will that top and I am from a football county.
Even Tomas o Se admitted that before that All Ireland hurling final day was King.
The TV viewings back that up too."
Historically the football final has drawn bigger crowds (hurling finals tradationally did not always sell out) and TV audience. Even recently (2016) I was able to buy a hurling final ticket on general sale. Having said that in the last 10 years or so the hurling is much better to watch. Some of the Kilkenny Tipp finals have been amazing. The level of interest in the football this year is the lowest I have ever seen. The GAA has their head stuck in the sand and won't address football's issues with rule changes.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1354 - 01/09/2018 07:25:03    2138069

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Replying To essmac:  "Begrudgery. This final is a difficult one for fans from other Southern counties. On the one hand, in theory, people would like to see Dublin losing one, for a change. There is that jealousy of Dublin by this stage. The problem then is that the team in position to attempt this near-impossible feat is Tyrone, a team that is generally detested by other counties' fans. An ideal result for many would be that both teams lose ... So it's difficult to bring yourself to admit to much interest in a game between a county you're jealous of and a county you'd secretly rather was banned from the competition in the first place. Throw in the additional factor that Dublin are raging favourites to run away with this one, and there's your reasons. A probable mismatch between two teams that the rest of the country can't stand. Still, we're very popular among ourselves ;)"
Would you get over yourself. Need some salt to go with that chip on your shoulder? Tbh I'm married to a dub and would love to see Tyrone win, it ain't gonna happen but I'd be thrilled for them, as I think most people would be to break dubs dominance, just like in 11 when I cheered on Dublin, it doesn't change the fact though that this is the most low key build up to a final in my lifetime.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/09/2018 07:25:37    2138070

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Replying To essmac:  "Begrudgery. This final is a difficult one for fans from other Southern counties. On the one hand, in theory, people would like to see Dublin losing one, for a change. There is that jealousy of Dublin by this stage. The problem then is that the team in position to attempt this near-impossible feat is Tyrone, a team that is generally detested by other counties' fans. An ideal result for many would be that both teams lose ... So it's difficult to bring yourself to admit to much interest in a game between a county you're jealous of and a county you'd secretly rather was banned from the competition in the first place. Throw in the additional factor that Dublin are raging favourites to run away with this one, and there's your reasons. A probable mismatch between two teams that the rest of the country can't stand. Still, we're very popular among ourselves ;)"
I don't think it's jealously of Dublin, it's just that people naturally gravitate towards the underdog. The last time a county was going for 4 in a row in football was Kerry in 1981. All neutrals wanted Offaly to win, it's human nature. It's just in this case that this Tyrone team and management embody everything that is wrong with Gaelic football.

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 564 - 01/09/2018 08:51:13    2138077

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Replying To essmac:  "Begrudgery. This final is a difficult one for fans from other Southern counties. On the one hand, in theory, people would like to see Dublin losing one, for a change. There is that jealousy of Dublin by this stage. The problem then is that the team in position to attempt this near-impossible feat is Tyrone, a team that is generally detested by other counties' fans. An ideal result for many would be that both teams lose ... So it's difficult to bring yourself to admit to much interest in a game between a county you're jealous of and a county you'd secretly rather was banned from the competition in the first place. Throw in the additional factor that Dublin are raging favourites to run away with this one, and there's your reasons. A probable mismatch between two teams that the rest of the country can't stand. Still, we're very popular among ourselves ;)"
Waffle. No other word for it. I wish Tyrone every success tomorrow.

I sat down to enjoy the Tyrone v Dublin semi-final last year, sadly it was over as a contest after 10 minutes. I was looking forward to a great tactical battle.

I sat down to watch the Galway v Dublin semi-final this year. The first half was a good contest. Again, I was interested in the tactical battle. In the first few minutes after half time, I think even before they scored, I could see that Dublin had Galway's number. Unfortunately that game was over before the final quarter.

I'm looking forward to tomorrow's final. I am sure I will enjoy it for as long as it is a contest be that 10 minutes or 50 minutes.

The big smoke have a provincial place in modern Ireland, sure look we can discuss that more during the winter.

For now, I wish both sets of supporters and enjoyable day. Safe journey and safe home to our rural brethren! Ciarraí abú in pursuit of minor success!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7853 - 01/09/2018 09:47:43    2138080

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Of course there's going to be a huge interest within the counties involved in fairness, that's not what the opening post is referencing, I mean if that wasn't the case then the game is doomed completely.

But from a neutral point of view the same level of interest isn't there and I've found this from traveling the country with work and talking to people.

A good game of football tomorrow would be a huge boost to be honest.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1338 - 01/09/2018 10:15:28    2138082

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Replying To gotmilk:  "This is what I heard at work yesterday. Again it could be a case of hear a lie, tell a lie. But then wasn't the game between the two sides in Omagh not supposed to be a sell out and tickets nowhere to be got before the game yet there were thousands of tickets left untaken.

And Mayo tyrone man coming in from the Dromore side and going down by the showgrounds and out to the council carpark there is little to no bunting. Even up on main street theres very little to make you think there is an all ireland in two days. The only thing that suggested it was the car randomly going round with the megaphone yesterday evening for some reason and the two lads from Galway selling flags beside the coach inn."
Don't know where your getting your information gotmilk , I think it's a case of posting just for the sake of it.
(1) I was at game in Omagh , Stand was sold out . Teracces were full. There certainly wasn't thousands of tickets unsold.
(2) Currently most Dublin clubs are short of tickets , i was at my clubs draw on thursday night . 350 people's names in draw , 100 available.

Now tickets might become more available today , but no Dublin Club is sending back tickets.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 01/09/2018 10:20:39    2138086

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Replying To AthCliath:  "Don't know where your getting your information gotmilk , I think it's a case of posting just for the sake of it.
(1) I was at game in Omagh , Stand was sold out . Teracces were full. There certainly wasn't thousands of tickets unsold.
(2) Currently most Dublin clubs are short of tickets , i was at my clubs draw on thursday night . 350 people's names in draw , 100 available.

Now tickets might become more available today , but no Dublin Club is sending back tickets."
Spot on.

Definitely a shortage of tickets for Dublin clubs, despite Tyrone returning some.

Here's hoping us Dubs bring plenty of colour and flags tomorrow and really light up the Hill.

@ Wayno - don't forget your Bodhran..!

Excitement and nerves really building at this stage.

Hopefully we can do it.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3733 - 01/09/2018 12:36:29    2138118

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Replying To AthCliath:  "Don't know where your getting your information gotmilk , I think it's a case of posting just for the sake of it.
(1) I was at game in Omagh , Stand was sold out . Teracces were full. There certainly wasn't thousands of tickets unsold.
(2) Currently most Dublin clubs are short of tickets , i was at my clubs draw on thursday night . 350 people's names in draw , 100 available.

Now tickets might become more available today , but no Dublin Club is sending back tickets."
True, I can't speak for all clubs but ours certainly didn't send any back and demand was huge again. They got 70 tickets and possibly some more today from outside of the county.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 01/09/2018 12:48:37    2138122

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Replying To AthCliath:  "Don't know where your getting your information gotmilk , I think it's a case of posting just for the sake of it.
(1) I was at game in Omagh , Stand was sold out . Teracces were full. There certainly wasn't thousands of tickets unsold.
(2) Currently most Dublin clubs are short of tickets , i was at my clubs draw on thursday night . 350 people's names in draw , 100 available.

Now tickets might become more available today , but no Dublin Club is sending back tickets."
Why is there such big demand for the final compared to the semi? Years gone by demand for the semi would have been huge aswell.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 01/09/2018 13:05:33    2138130

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Replying To AthCliath:  "Don't know where your getting your information gotmilk , I think it's a case of posting just for the sake of it.
(1) I was at game in Omagh , Stand was sold out . Teracces were full. There certainly wasn't thousands of tickets unsold.
(2) Currently most Dublin clubs are short of tickets , i was at my clubs draw on thursday night . 350 people's names in draw , 100 available.

Now tickets might become more available today , but no Dublin Club is sending back tickets."
Look I can only go on what I was told at work. Maybe those at work had the wrong info. As for the super 8s game there were 2 thousand tickets either not sold or not taken. Capacity of the ground on the day was just shy of 18000, attendance was 16000.

Anyways lads congratulations on another win. Thought the celebrations looked a bit muted from the sheer joy and ecstasy in 2011.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 02/09/2018 17:32:10    2138410

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Look I can only go on what I was told at work. Maybe those at work had the wrong info. As for the super 8s game there were 2 thousand tickets either not sold or not taken. Capacity of the ground on the day was just shy of 18000, attendance was 16000.

Anyways lads congratulations on another win. Thought the celebrations looked a bit muted from the sheer joy and ecstasy in 2011."
That's human nature, but their perseverance on the field screams loudly in the face of those 'muted' celebrations. The word 'humble' comes to mind.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 02/09/2018 19:17:38    2138476

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