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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "you won't get much excitement or news from Jim Gavin win or lose, he sort of sums up the robotic blue machine well. thank God for Mayo they always give great entertainment." And not a single all Ireland in 67 years to show for it.
I wish Dublin where more entertaining so all the neutrals would love us cause were glorious failures.
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waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 28/08/2018 12:52:35
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Replying To Fionn: "Shocked to hear this from a Dublin fan...
I am sure yourself would have followed Dublin through the lean years when winning an All Ireland was a dream or a distant hope.
This run wont last forever so not to get excited at seeing the Dubs in another All Ireland Final...???
I just dont get that at all.
Maybe it is because Connolly is not playing eh..??? ;o)
Personally, my nerves are already kicking in.... Very wary of another ambush...!" Talk to me at the weekend and i will prob disown that statement and take it al back :)
But football for me has become horrible, I just hate the sight of it
U know me, you know what Dublin football means to me
I don't say these things lightly man but its just how I feel atm
Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 28/08/2018 13:09:03
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Replying To waynoI: "Completely normal...
What will generally happen is the Tuesday or Wednesday after a semi final win, Dublin will have a meet and greet for fans at Parnell Park that the whole squad will attend providing they aren't in work.
Once that is finished its lock down until the final and no Dublin player will be doing interviews
At that meet and greet the media will turn up and a few players will be taken aside for interviews aswell as Jim Gavin, The media know that this is the last they will get from the Dublin squad/management and with still 2 and a half weeks to go, tend to keep their interviews/articles until the week or so before the game (I assume)
This year, The players interviewed at the meet and greet where Johnny Cooper and Dean Rock
So if you see any articles on HS over the next few days or over the past few days theyre likely to be from Gavin, Dean Rock or Johnny Cooper. Everything outside of the panel from ex players etc is different but of the playing squad and management, other than cooper, rock and gavin I don't think youll hear anything.
>> https://www.sportsfile.com/more-images/1808162/ [The meet and greet evening where the media interviewed a few of the lads, 16th aug "]If the players aren't in work??? :-)
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 28/08/2018 13:10:30
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "you won't get much excitement or news from Jim Gavin win or lose, he sort of sums up the robotic blue machine well. thank God for Mayo they always give great entertainment." Mayo have been knocked out two months ago, great entertainment indeed.....I think someone needs to get out more. I'll take, cough, "robotic" and hugely successful any day thank you very much, I'd wager Mayo would too, mind.
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 28/08/2018 13:11:40
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I can't wait for the last 10 mins when the dubs are up by 7 or 8 points and they play keep ball like they did against Donegal in that robotic style. Will be a suitable end to a terrible year for Gaelic football.
The u17 and u20s have had some great games to watch alright where they generally go man to man but at Senior level this counter attacking game has taken over in almost every county including Kerry at times. Not sure has there been a year with so few good games in recent few years but I could be mistaken.
KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 28/08/2018 13:29:35
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Replying To maroondiesel: "I think MH was in 3 senior finals not 6/7, GAA released a statement that they want rule changes for next season, they should have waited until this season was over, they are promoting this Final as a dead rubber. Hope Tyrone can sneak it." I did not use the word senior-said AI's and the were in 6/7 that he managed unbeaten
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 28/08/2018 13:58:45
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Replying To browncows: "I did not use the word senior-said AI's and the were in 6/7 that he managed unbeaten" mh has lots of underage finals at club/county level, a few dozen I suppose, you are very vague then
maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 28/08/2018 15:02:42
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Replying To KY4SAM2015: "I can't wait for the last 10 mins when the dubs are up by 7 or 8 points and they play keep ball like they did against Donegal in that robotic style. Will be a suitable end to a terrible year for Gaelic football.
The u17 and u20s have had some great games to watch alright where they generally go man to man but at Senior level this counter attacking game has taken over in almost every county including Kerry at times. Not sure has there been a year with so few good games in recent few years but I could be mistaken." You'd not be complaining if it was Kerry contesting this final so spare us this tripe.
seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 28/08/2018 16:22:35
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Replying To TheUsername: "I actually think you are on to something here, i think whats quite clear is that other counties have declined for many socioeconomic reasons or just have been left behind in modern coaching or limits on players they are producing, alligned with poor decisions. For example Galway produced fine athletes with great physicality this year but maybe were lacking technical composure. Kerry produced some nice looking technical players but had limits in athleticism and physical presence and were bullied by a few teams.
It seems only Dublin have found the magical formula or the balance, a true testament to advanced player development. All the more stunning despite a population of 1.3 million people only 39k are registered to a GAA club. Im not sure the playing numbers are quite there to be considered provincial status. So really there is little evidence to tinker with the intercounty game
But we cant be not aware of the regression in other counties, clubs all over the country are amalgamating and you do wonder will the GAA at some point look to go the path way in Rugby and create a provincal regional system. You could have South Munster, The midlands, Connaght, North Leinster East and West Ulster, Dublin etc.
The intercounty can exist in some form as a middle ground, but an interprovincal not based on the current four province system may be a future pathway with the regression of many counties and the methods they employ. I think particularly as money creeps in the game.
Its a long way off though, id say we are three or four eras of a discussion about it yet. Some counties may pull up their socks by then also and save the championship as we know it. But if the game creeps toward professionalism and becomes an all year affair a system an interprovincal system may be apt. A lot of adversity may be down pathway i couldn't see Kerry and Cork give in with out a fight or Mayo and Galway if an amalgamation was on the cards for South Munster or west Connacht.
Its all pie in the "Sky" at this stage, but interesting to hypothesise." The simplest format is 5 provinces playing in the format of the hurling provincial championships.
Leinster is big enough without Dublin to have 5 counties in North Leinster and 5 counties in South Leinster plus Kilkenny for what they are worth to football.
Connaught, Dublin, North Leinster, South Leinster, Munster and Ulster could easily play each other 3 times in a league format, with the 2nd v 3rd in the semi-final for a place against the top team in the final. 15 weeks of regular league and 2 weeks for semi-final and final.
With the backing of Sky, Eir or Virgin, it's a realistic future direction for Gaelic-football that could financially reward elite playing staff.
The inter-county championship can still remain, it'll just be a matter of the inter-provincial championship naturally attaining the higher level status for obvious reasons.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7868 - 28/08/2018 16:31:10
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Replying To Tarismelting22: "This is a very different dublin then 2014 and we all know why they lost awful stuff.
This is the greatest team of all time but i can only see it lasting another couple of years. THis thing about the dubs in croker is bs they would beat anyone anywhere on their day. they are after winning year in year out and your not going to say they are a great team oh lord
I dont think anyone can name a better team??" It's been a poor decade. Kerry and Tyrone went into the wilderness after their 2010 championship exits.
Dublin improved on sports science and dark arts after 2011, and have dominated a poor decade. Home league games since 2011 aiding their championship campaigns.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7868 - 28/08/2018 16:42:44
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Robotic dull football coupled with an android like manager who shows no emotion regardless of what happens, hopefully Tyrone can break the curse and send the blue machine to the scrapheap. You'd hardly think the final was on this week at all, Mayo still have all the attention, nobody cares if the blue machine get 4 in a row outside of the province of Dublin anyway.
Tyrone by 2
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2756 - 28/08/2018 16:44:59
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Replying To legendzxix: "The simplest format is 5 provinces playing in the format of the hurling provincial championships.
Leinster is big enough without Dublin to have 5 counties in North Leinster and 5 counties in South Leinster plus Kilkenny for what they are worth to football.
Connaught, Dublin, North Leinster, South Leinster, Munster and Ulster could easily play each other 3 times in a league format, with the 2nd v 3rd in the semi-final for a place against the top team in the final. 15 weeks of regular league and 2 weeks for semi-final and final.
With the backing of Sky, Eir or Virgin, it's a realistic future direction for Gaelic-football that could financially reward elite playing staff.
The inter-county championship can still remain, it'll just be a matter of the inter-provincial championship naturally attaining the higher level status for obvious reasons." Im not sure if i would go with the five province model to be honest, i think it needs to be demarcated further. For example, Dublin have 39k registered players, Cork have 33k.
Something like Cork, Waterford would bring it up to about 39k as South Munster and Kerry, Limerick and Tipp could be east Munster etc in other counties. If you were to develop a model i think you are looking at the number of registered players to demarcate and amalgamate to bring equity. For me you are looking at 10 - 12 teams in an inter provincial model.
Again where does inter-county fit if you were to run it, you have Dublin, Cork and Galway with 25-39k registered players, they are also duel counties of note. Should they be excluded and if so where is the cut off point. If they were excluded from football why not from hurling? Then you are looking at the deviation. Hypothetically for example Kerry may have the same deviation from Dublin, as Letirm do to Kerry. Ultimately there will always be someone better off.
Im not sure the numbers are there to be honest for intercounty championship exclusion if Dublin, Cork and Galway had registered player number of say 100k-200k there could be a case.
The gap that exists between say Dublin, Cork and Galway and counties of say a total population of 140k-180k like kerry, Mayo and Donegal is the same as the registered players between those counties and the likes of Monagahan, Cavan and Leitrim and those counties are rising their registered playing numbers at a high percentage.
This is probably the wrong thread for this debate, but a welcome distraction for me ruminating on the tension of the game on Sunday,
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 28/08/2018 16:59:34
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Replying To seanie_boy: "You'd not be complaining if it was Kerry contesting this final so spare us this tripe." Ignore him
The Kerry lot are raging they aren't there and ourselves and yourselves are..
Love it
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 28/08/2018 17:04:46
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Replying To KY4SAM2015: "I can't wait for the last 10 mins when the dubs are up by 7 or 8 points and they play keep ball like they did against Donegal in that robotic style. Will be a suitable end to a terrible year for Gaelic football.
The u17 and u20s have had some great games to watch alright where they generally go man to man but at Senior level this counter attacking game has taken over in almost every county including Kerry at times. Not sure has there been a year with so few good games in recent few years but I could be mistaken." A terrible year because Dublin have a good chance of winning Sam again and Kerry have gone without Sam another year again? Terrible indeed :-)
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 28/08/2018 17:12:21
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Replying To seanie_boy: "You'd not be complaining if it was Kerry contesting this final so spare us this tripe." Glad you enjoyed the football championship,id say your in minority with that viewpoint.
I will be expecting an apology from you on Sunday when my tripe comes to reality.
KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 28/08/2018 17:27:20
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2003 Tyrone halt the Armagh bid for 2 in-in-a-row
2008 Tyrone halt the Kerry bid for 3 in-in-a-row
2018 Tyrone halt the Dublin bid for 4 in-in-a-row ???
You never know...
Maybe we will become known as the Row Stoppers
Come on Tyrone...TOTAL FAITH
Redhandsam (Tyrone) - Posts: 93 - 28/08/2018 17:31:33
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Replying To legendzxix: "It's been a poor decade. Kerry and Tyrone went into the wilderness after their 2010 championship exits.
Dublin improved on sports science and dark arts after 2011, and have dominated a poor decade. Home league games since 2011 aiding their championship campaigns." Did you just use the word "Dublin"
woah................
Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 28/08/2018 17:32:38
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Honestly, it is the same every year. There are a handful of good games most of which are in the back door where the standards are equal.
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 28/08/2018 17:38:37
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "Robotic dull football coupled with an android like manager who shows no emotion regardless of what happens, hopefully Tyrone can break the curse and send the blue machine to the scrapheap. You'd hardly think the final was on this week at all, Mayo still have all the attention, nobody cares if the blue machine get 4 in a row outside of the province of Dublin anyway.
Tyrone by 2" A post from a Donegal man calling Dublin's football robotic and dull. I've heard it all now.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 28/08/2018 17:52:17
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "Robotic dull football coupled with an android like manager who shows no emotion regardless of what happens, hopefully Tyrone can break the curse and send the blue machine to the scrapheap. You'd hardly think the final was on this week at all, Mayo still have all the attention, nobody cares if the blue machine get 4 in a row outside of the province of Dublin anyway.
Tyrone by 2" Then, the ball is tossed in the air by Maurice Deegan and as I watch it fall, I see Mark McHugh, Christy Toye and Frank McGlynn in my peripheral vision all sprinting from the Donegal half-forward line into their defence, completely ignoring the ball.
- Robotic and dull indeed.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 28/08/2018 17:54:21
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