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He shouldn't have done it, it was a reckless and uncontrolled outburst of aggressive energy. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 06/08/2018 17:44:29 2130094 Link 1 |
Anyone who has refereed knows that they will never be as good as experts who comment from sidelines (and couchs).
leftandwide (Meath) - Posts: 91 - 06/08/2018 17:48:42 2130097 Link 0 |
Football is a difficult game to ref and to be fair a lot of calls are marginal but there's no real excuse for some of the calls and they never seem to be held accountable. Also the culture of questioning every call from the sideline needs to change and won't happen by itself lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 06/08/2018 18:35:33 2130113 Link 0 |
Good post and to the point. It appears that some posters would like to bring back hanging.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 06/08/2018 20:32:58 2130156 Link 1 |
Why would I presume that? Well, the two possibilities are (1) Kildare player says something (perhaps entirely harmless or innocuous), Mayo player is so psyched up that he snaps and tries to strangle him or (2) Mayo player tries to strangle nearest Kildare player for absolutely no reason. Now, having played team sports I'm of the opinion that scenario 1 is more probable. However, I'm not condoning what he did, his reaction was shockingly violent and he needs to be taken off a football field for an extended period both for his own sake and that of his teammates and opponents. He will need to learn to control his anger because unfortunately he will be a target for sledging for the rest of his football career now, regardless of what level he reaches, and refs will have his card marked. That will be his real punishment, after his 48 weeks or whatever is up. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 06/08/2018 21:09:00 2130177 Link 1 |
You are insinuating the Kildare player sledged him and that's an unfair thing to do to the Kildare player. I don't care what team sports you may have played you can't just assume something and tinge a young lad's good name. The referee as we all could see was right on the spot, do you not think he would have heard something coming from the Kildare lad's mouth? As far as i know sledging is a black card offence. If he heard something he would have taken action but he didn't. I have no doubt young Flynn regrets his actions today and let's not lynch him. I seriously doubt he will ever let that happen again but he was the aggressor in this case. I hope you are never called for jury service with your eagerness to assume guilt.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 06/08/2018 22:05:57 2130218 Link 2 |
Ask some of the Donegal fans who were at the league game in Castlebar last year what they think of the Mayo 'fans' I know many who would never set foot in the place again. This is endemic among the Mayo teams, Cillain O'Connor has been getting away with it for years, in the refs face from start to finish of every game, no wonder the young lads like Flynn think it's ok to act like this, that's what happens when this behaviour is not nipped in the bud. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2756 - 06/08/2018 22:37:07 2130242 Link 2 |
Flynn was wrong in what he did and will take his punishment I presume what ever that is. BUT poor referees are causing a lot of trouble in our games, leading to players getting frustrated and lashing out. We need a pool of fully trained referees and the same for linesmen and umpires and if that doesn't work we need instant Video replay with power to over rule bad decisions by the Officials. Players are putting their lives on hold and training to a professional level and then have their year ruined by poor Officials. Not Good Enough. culmore (None) - Posts: 1398 - 06/08/2018 23:11:40 2130256 Link 0 |
No, I don't think the Kildare player sledged Flynn. The Kildare player said something to the referee and Flynn immediately snapped, turned towards the Kildare player and started choking him. Which of course was a completely unacceptable reaction. I attach no blame to the Kildare player.
ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 07/08/2018 00:39:41 2130279 Link 0 |
OK Dell hope you are keeping well mate. You are right. The officials job is hard enough without players putting their hands on them and there should be a ZERO tolerance threshold in respect of this. I don't care if the player is 'young, inexperienced, hyped up rhubarb rhubarb etc' Players AND managers SHOULD know from an early age that this is complete NO NO. I DO think however that captains, and ONLY the captains as in rugby, should be allowed to approach the officials and ask for an explanation on a decision. I also think it would be a good idea if refs or their spokespersons were allowed to take questions after games.
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 07/08/2018 00:59:37 2130282 Link 0 |
Except nobody has said anything of the sort. Most people have said what he did was inexcusable and he deserves a long ban to try to stamp this out. That's it. No song and dance. Nobody being hung out to dry. A good ban from football as per the rules. I'm sure he regrets it hugely, but part of that is being big enough to take your punishment. No need to be so dramatic. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2047 - 07/08/2018 06:28:17 2130288 Link 3 |
Why are they impossible to referee? There is no excuse when you have 4 umpires and 2 linesmen. That's 7 sets of eyes. A clear definition of what constitutes a legal might be a starting point. There is money to educate referees like do in rugby and pay them properly. As it stands there is too much open to interpretation and referees are selected for bug games because they are buddies with Pat McEnaney. Banana republic stuff. Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1171 - 07/08/2018 09:40:58 2130317 Link 0 |
Laughable...I could tell you a few stories about encounters with other country fans including Donegal but the majority of all fans of all counties are dead on sound.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 07/08/2018 09:59:40 2130323 Link 3 |
Didnt Mayos fans cars get damaged after the league game up in Donegal after this years league game?
Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 07/08/2018 12:34:32 2130397 Link 0 |
He completely lost it.. there seemed to be a incident at the previous kickout but the camera doesn't catch it and you see him holding his face..Anyhow a ban will ensue. ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 541 - 07/08/2018 13:06:44 2130412 Link 0 |
Well considering the length McStay got for his actions this lad should be getting the book, tractor, trailer, ham sandwiches, etc everything at him. I'd like to think GAA are not going to let him away with it unlike what they did to dear auld Andy Moran WaitingInTheLongGrass (Roscommon) - Posts: 165 - 07/08/2018 13:11:56 2130415 Link 3 |
You've been grind that axe for a while you must be down to the handle now. There plenty of fans in each county who have given their county a bad name and there's more who are genuine and a credit to their counties. I've seen a few headbangers from Donegal in action same as any other county. He who is without sin and all that jazz, Tir!
Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 07/08/2018 14:40:21 2130449 Link 0 |
Yes but I wouldn't blame that on donegal fans.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 07/08/2018 14:59:13 2130454 Link 1 |
so how do you improve referees?go on, give specifics. DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 07/08/2018 15:05:41 2130457 Link 0 |
My comment is aimed at guys who make comments about protecting Refs when they are very well protected by the rules and what they say, or write into a report stand as gospel even when it is clearly incorrect- I call that a type of abuse. Refs like everybody do make mistakes and are not gods. Indeed they should be respected, however respect is two way. DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 07/08/2018 15:10:49 2130461 Link 0 |