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Monday nights The Game, re the history of hurling was an absolute brilliant show by RTE. However one noticeable county absentee from the various interviewee's and snippets was that of Limerick, the present All Ireland finalists. All the strong hurling counties had representatives or analyst's except the Shannonsiders. Counties like Cork and Kilkenny and rightfully so took the limelight. I presume this was all one big coincidence and we will hear about the legendary Mick Mackey and his comrades of the 1930's next Monday night. Limerick has always been a great and loyal hurling county and has offfered us some of the greatest exponents of the game. Lets see the like of the two Eamons, Cregan and Grimes, Pat Hartigan, Joe McKenna etc involved and hear their opinions and tales from the 60's, 70's and 80's. Triple H (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 02/08/2018 12:33:57 2128455 Link
Replying To Triple H: "Monday nights The Game, re the history of hurling was an absolute brilliant show by RTE. However one noticeable county absentee from the various interviewee's and snippets was that of Limerick, the present All Ireland finalists. All the strong hurling counties had representatives or analyst's except the Shannonsiders. Counties like Cork and Kilkenny and rightfully so took the limelight. I presume this was all one big coincidence and we will hear about the legendary Mick Mackey and his comrades of the 1930's next Monday night. Limerick has always been a great and loyal hurling county and has offfered us some of the greatest exponents of the game. Lets see the like of the two Eamons, Cregan and Grimes, Pat Hartigan, Joe McKenna etc involved and hear their opinions and tales from the 60's, 70's and 80's." I watched that programme and was really struck by the same thing.. Only sight of a green Jersey was in the context of Galway winning the AI in1980.. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1065 - 02/08/2018 12:43:39 2128458 Link
Replying To Triple H: "Monday nights The Game, re the history of hurling was an absolute brilliant show by RTE. However one noticeable county absentee from the various interviewee's and snippets was that of Limerick, the present All Ireland finalists. All the strong hurling counties had representatives or analyst's except the Shannonsiders. Counties like Cork and Kilkenny and rightfully so took the limelight. I presume this was all one big coincidence and we will hear about the legendary Mick Mackey and his comrades of the 1930's next Monday night. Limerick has always been a great and loyal hurling county and has offfered us some of the greatest exponents of the game. Lets see the like of the two Eamons, Cregan and Grimes, Pat Hartigan, Joe McKenna etc involved and hear their opinions and tales from the 60's, 70's and 80's." 4th on the roll of honour, the problem is that Cork, Kilkenny and Tipp have 93 All Ireland's between them. We are next then with 7 but if you add what us, Wexford, Galway, Clare & Offaly have won, we don't even catch any of the big 3. I'd say any of those counties have as much right to talk as we do also. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 02/08/2018 12:45:42 2128459 Link
Replying To slayer: "4th on the roll of honour, the problem is that Cork, Kilkenny and Tipp have 93 All Ireland's between them. We are next then with 7 but if you add what us, Wexford, Galway, Clare & Offaly have won, we don't even catch any of the big 3. I'd say any of those counties have as much right to talk as we do also." Don't think that's the point he's making. All of those other counties featured, we didn't get a mention. Doesn't really matter anyway. Being in the final makes up for it :) skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1065 - 02/08/2018 13:03:24 2128463 Link
Nothing wrong whatsoever but if you were asked to name the most obvious traditional hurling counties then Tipp Kilkenny & Cork would probably be most people's answer. They have contested more AI's than anyone else by a long shot. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 02/08/2018 13:23:11 2128472 Link
Love to have heard from Ciaran Carey - Limerick were my 2nd team in the 90's mainly because of the way that man hurled The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 708 - 02/08/2018 14:01:24 2128488 Link
This is where the problem is in growing the sport. It is fine to remember you heroes of the past and no disrespect to Kilkenny, Tipp and Cork but lets concentrate on the game in the present and future. If Tipp and Kilkenny are in next years final we will have Lyster and others saying "O you have to have the traditional teams in the final to have a real final" . We get this every time when the big three are up against each other in a final. Bullsh-t. The games without two of the big three in the semi-finals were as good as it gets. The third one is out now. We are nearly 20 years into a new century of hurling and lets hope it will see more counties reach the holy grail on a more consistent basis. Kilkenny, Tipp and Cork will play great games against each other again, but also will against other teams. Also there will be great games without them. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 02/08/2018 15:25:08 2128521 Link
Replying To Triple H: "Monday nights The Game, re the history of hurling was an absolute brilliant show by RTE. However one noticeable county absentee from the various interviewee's and snippets was that of Limerick, the present All Ireland finalists. All the strong hurling counties had representatives or analyst's except the Shannonsiders. Counties like Cork and Kilkenny and rightfully so took the limelight. I presume this was all one big coincidence and we will hear about the legendary Mick Mackey and his comrades of the 1930's next Monday night. Limerick has always been a great and loyal hurling county and has offfered us some of the greatest exponents of the game. Lets see the like of the two Eamons, Cregan and Grimes, Pat Hartigan, Joe McKenna etc involved and hear their opinions and tales from the 60's, 70's and 80's." At the end of the programme we were told that Mick Mackey and Christy Ring would feature in the next episode . Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 02/08/2018 15:32:04 2128524 Link
Replying To slayer: "4th on the roll of honour, the problem is that Cork, Kilkenny and Tipp have 93 All Ireland's between them. We are next then with 7 but if you add what us, Wexford, Galway, Clare & Offaly have won, we don't even catch any of the big 3. I'd say any of those counties have as much right to talk as we do also." Makes it even worse though when you look at Galway, who have lost an incredible 19 finals since the very first All Ireland Hurling final. If they'd won even half of those, they'd easily be in fourth sport on their own. Instead they are stuck on a woeful five, and with no disrespect to Dublin, even they have more All Ireland hurling titles than Galway. gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 02/08/2018 15:52:33 2128529 Link
Replying To Canuck: "This is where the problem is in growing the sport. It is fine to remember you heroes of the past and no disrespect to Kilkenny, Tipp and Cork but lets concentrate on the game in the present and future. If Tipp and Kilkenny are in next years final we will have Lyster and others saying "O you have to have the traditional teams in the final to have a real final" . We get this every time when the big three are up against each other in a final. Bullsh-t. The games without two of the big three in the semi-finals were as good as it gets. The third one is out now. We are nearly 20 years into a new century of hurling and lets hope it will see more counties reach the holy grail on a more consistent basis. Kilkenny, Tipp and Cork will play great games against each other again, but also will against other teams. Also there will be great games without them." The only Bullsh-t I smell is this: "If Tipp and Kilkenny are in next years final we will have Lyster and others saying "O you have to have the traditional teams in the final to have a real final" . We get this every time when the big three are up against each other in a final." Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 02/08/2018 15:58:45 2128530 Link
Replying To skillet: "Don't think that's the point he's making. All of those other counties featured, we didn't get a mention. Doesn't really matter anyway. Being in the final makes up for it :)" Most definitely :-) slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 02/08/2018 16:28:32 2128539 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "At the end of the programme we were told that Mick Mackey and Christy Ring would feature in the next episode ." Yeah, people watch a programme and they don't even listen to it. Then they go and set up a thread about nothing. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1904 - 02/08/2018 17:23:09 2128547 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "The only Bullsh-t I smell is this: "If Tipp and Kilkenny are in next years final we will have Lyster and others saying "O you have to have the traditional teams in the final to have a real final" . We get this every time when the big three are up against each other in a final."" Lyster wouldn't be saying any such thing anyway. First of all he'll be retired and secondly he's from Galway. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1904 - 02/08/2018 17:25:54 2128548 Link
Replying To gilly2308: "Makes it even worse though when you look at Galway, who have lost an incredible 19 finals since the very first All Ireland Hurling final. If they'd won even half of those, they'd easily be in fourth sport on their own. Instead they are stuck on a woeful five, and with no disrespect to Dublin, even they have more All Ireland hurling titles than Galway." ya but that was obviously helped by the fact that ye had no provincial championship to play and then more often then not, met better teams in the final. blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 02/08/2018 18:41:09 2128566 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "The only Bullsh-t I smell is this: "If Tipp and Kilkenny are in next years final we will have Lyster and others saying "O you have to have the traditional teams in the final to have a real final" . We get this every time when the big three are up against each other in a final."" No one can deny that when the big three are in the final that the so called "traditional final " is blown up as such by commentators and papers. Michael Lyster might not do it when Galway are in it. Over many years I have heard him and others doing it. I am sure when he is not there next year someone else will pick up the gauntlet. I never said that Kilkenny. Tipp and Cork were not worthy of the success they have had. My opinion. You have yours. Or do you ? Or do you just prefer to zone in on other opinions ? Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 02/08/2018 19:21:54 2128579 Link
Replying To gilly2308: "Makes it even worse though when you look at Galway, who have lost an incredible 19 finals since the very first All Ireland Hurling final. If they'd won even half of those, they'd easily be in fourth sport on their own. Instead they are stuck on a woeful five, and with no disrespect to Dublin, even they have more All Ireland hurling titles than Galway." Well gilly I am amazed Galway have not at least twice more All Irelands than us in view of the very widespread area that is 'hurling country' and all the club and underage titles thay have won. However I would worry too much about Dublin six All Irelands in hurling as every player that ever won a hurling All Ireland with Dublin was born outside the county. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4331 - 02/08/2018 20:01:27 2128587 Link
Replying To Canuck: "This is where the problem is in growing the sport. It is fine to remember you heroes of the past and no disrespect to Kilkenny, Tipp and Cork but lets concentrate on the game in the present and future. If Tipp and Kilkenny are in next years final we will have Lyster and others saying "O you have to have the traditional teams in the final to have a real final" . We get this every time when the big three are up against each other in a final. Bullsh-t. The games without two of the big three in the semi-finals were as good as it gets. The third one is out now. We are nearly 20 years into a new century of hurling and lets hope it will see more counties reach the holy grail on a more consistent basis. Kilkenny, Tipp and Cork will play great games against each other again, but also will against other teams. Also there will be great games without them." no you wont,michael lyster is retiring this year...... perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 03/08/2018 09:04:55 2128663 Link
Replying To perfect10: "no you wont,michael lyster is retiring this year......" Well spotted. No one else noticed that. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 03/08/2018 09:30:06 2128667 Link
Replying To gilly2308: "Makes it even worse though when you look at Galway, who have lost an incredible 19 finals since the very first All Ireland Hurling final. If they'd won even half of those, they'd easily be in fourth sport on their own. Instead they are stuck on a woeful five, and with no disrespect to Dublin, even they have more All Ireland hurling titles than Galway." Nothing incredible about the 19 total at all, when you consider 'the golden ticket' arrangement that saw Galway progress to a semi-final automatically quite a lot. I'm too young myself!!, but my great granddad told me that Galway got good at hurling in 1975. From 1975-1996, Galway were remarkably presented with 22 opportunities to reach all-ireland hurling finals, by winning just one match. 7 of the 19 number, that you are so 'appalled' at, were lost in this 22 year spell. My great granddad always surmised that Galway wouldn't have lost even half of those 7 all irelands, if they'd had to come though a Leinster or Munster championship, or indeed the current championship structure, or any of the other 'back door' arrangements that existed for Galway teams in the 1997-2008 dozen seasons. They wouldn't have lost them, because they wouldn't have been in them, and if they were in them, they'd have had a better chance, because they'd have earned their spot. I don't know anything about pre-1975 hurling, but I'd say Galway got a number of soft semi final tickets historically too, which no doubt contributed to swelling that number to n..n...n.....nineteen!! To say nothing of referees!!!! Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3446 - 03/08/2018 12:11:38 2128720 Link
i dont think there is anything wrong with limerick,and i doubt anybody in limerick is too worried about not being on some show on rte! i baulked when i seen chin on it..... perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 03/08/2018 14:38:50 2128753 Link