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Interesting/borderline disturbing article by Ewan McKenna in the independent online today, regarding Galway tactics - well worth a read. greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 26/07/2018 23:05:01 2126566 Link 1 |
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My opinion is that I expect Galway to win as winning is a habit. Monaghan missed their chance to qualify in Clones as Kerry will win comprehensively against Kildare and it will prove the importance of winning the respective provinces with the 4 semi finalists been Galway Dublin Kerry and Donegal katser (Galway) - Posts: 2229 - 26/07/2018 23:18:02 2126569 Link 1 |
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That's fair enough & I respect your analysis. However, that was not the question I asked your opinion on but that obviously went over your head. #bandwagoners greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 26/07/2018 23:31:47 2126579 Link 1 |
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Here is the link to the article I referenced greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 26/07/2018 23:38:10 2126583 Link 0 |
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So the question your asking is?? Your taliking about a team been dirty is it?
katser (Galway) - Posts: 2229 - 26/07/2018 23:38:53 2126584 Link 0 |
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Galway have an edge but it is nothing in comparisons to what what Monaghan can/do dish out. What is your oppinion of the image of Vinnie Corry grabbing Jack Barry around the throat at the weekend? It got a bit of coverage on social media. As for aggression at the weekend Kildare came with an agenda what are Galway to do....roll over? EDH (Galway) - Posts: 367 - 26/07/2018 23:40:36 2126585 Link 0 |
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Very interesting article indeed; DragHimDown (Monaghan) - Posts: 73 - 26/07/2018 23:47:30 2126587 Link 0 |
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An interesting article to you maybe. It's not so long since such journalists were deriding Galway for being hopelessly out of date. We finally become as cynical as the other top counties, and now we're the devil incarnate. I don't recall seeing any such article from Ewan McKenna when Damien Comer was left minus his front teeth thanks to an elbow in the not too recent past. No mention of the pulling and dragging the likes of Comer and Ian Burke were subject to in the Kildare game. Or of the elbow that to the face that Paul Conroy received in the Mayo game - funny I don't recall Conroy provoking Diarmuid O'Connor prior to receiving that dirty shot, but as it doesn't fit with McKenna's argument, it's no surprise he only mentions it in passing. Or the off the ball hit on Ian Burke in the Kerry game. But sure he must have provoked it. As for your comment about it being "endemic" in the Galway team. Pot, kettle and black comes to mind. The likes of the Wylies aren't exactly shrinking violets and they're not the only ones capable of "dirty tactics" as you put it, in your own team. Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 863 - 27/07/2018 00:04:48 2126589 Link 1 |
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I don't agree with your opinion. I think kildare will run kerry very close, could even beat them. Monaghan can beat Galway. Tyrone only need a draw against Donegal. My opinion is that Monaghan, Galway, Dublin and Tyrone are the 4 semi finalists.
border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 27/07/2018 00:11:58 2126592 Link 0 |
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Enjoy watching Galway as to me they are a good hard physical team but it is a bit mad that in most of their games this year the opposition has seen a man get sent off mainly for retaliation.
seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1803 - 27/07/2018 00:15:37 2126594 Link 0 |
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I think Galway are in an odd situation and as a result feel that Monaghan will win. The problem with Galways situation is win or lose they are in the semi final, the only question is who their opponents will be. Do they go all out to beat Monaghan (which is difficult enough at the best of times) in order to avoid the Dubs in the semi or do they keep a fair bit in reserve in the knowledge that they are out again the following weekend. Now if it were a winner takes all scenario I would fancy Galway but they might feel they have a better chance of taking the dubs out in a semi rather than a final. I honestly can't see them going flat out against Monaghan who will be up for this game big time and who were very impressive against Kerry. Monaghan to win by four or five and everyone writing Galway off against the Dubs. Will be interesting. Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 27/07/2018 00:48:30 2126603 Link 1 |
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https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-why-are-the-nasty-and-spiteful-tactics-in-gaa-right-now-passed-off-as-a-skill-37157511.html
RightFull (Monaghan) - Posts: 74 - 27/07/2018 01:24:39 2126608 Link 0 |
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Or maybe he didn't see your post as it wasn't updated in time and he didn't reply to your post directly? link A good article though McKenna's not famous for balanced debate when he's keen to put his point across. I saw a Galway man receive a black card after a Kildare man ran into him. McKenna didn't see that? Kevin Comer was clearly fouled before his disallowed goal. The man can't buy a free from some referees. On his article discussing England v Colombia 'Referee Mark Geiger was abysmal and Wilmar Barios should have seen red but how often have you gotten the full story?' McKenna won't give you the story as this doesn't give his article credence. Colombia attempted to foul England players at every opportunity and only after England scored did they attempt to play any football but the game he watched Colombia were the victims. link Not condoning Galway's or any other team's foul play, just saying I think McKenna can be a bit one-eyed. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7369 - 27/07/2018 01:38:47 2126614 Link 1 |
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What's so endemic? I've been to all bar one of Galway's championship games this year as well as a good number of league matches and haven't seen anything out of the ordinary, particularly anything that the opposition weren't also doing. Given that Ewan McKenna lives in Brazil, I'd doubt he's been to as many somehow. What he says happened to Daniel Flynn, i.e. being pulled and dragged during the match, happens to Damien Comer in every single game he plays, and often far worse. Ian Burke's been getting plenty treatment off the ball from defenders in recent games, including against Kerry. It happens to the standout forwards in most club matches. He starts going through the sendings-off, and seems to be somehow excusing those in the league match against Mayo. Diarmuid O'Connor was lucky to only go for 2 yellows in that match. He'd thrown a few high hits in already. Cillian threw a very dirty elbow to the head. In the championship match, Paul Conroy was close to having his jaw broken and suffered a bad concussion from the elbow Diarmuid gave him. It's an incredibly one-eyed piece from a man who can't have been to more than a handful of Galway's games, if even that. We might as well take it as read though. Keep the pot stirred. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2050 - 27/07/2018 02:15:30 2126622 Link 0 |
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I think McKenna is a very good writer but at times writes articles where he tells the reader one version of events and writes too many sensationalist bad news stories for a writer of his ability. He recently wrote about England v Colombia and highlighted some foul play from England. In a game where Colombia continuously fouled and played no football until they went a goal down he could only remember one incident of Colombian indiscretion in 120 minutes of football to further his opinion. Not just himself but I think a lot of these articles are to sell papers to some people who haven't seen games/incidents and can often treat second hand opinion as gospel. I think Ewan McKenna is better than that. link GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7369 - 27/07/2018 09:18:35 2126632 Link 1 |
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If Kildare beat kerry in Killarney it will go down as one of the biggest shocks in gas history. The last time Kerry lost there in the championship was 1987. It rarely happens. Kildare are without their star man.
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 27/07/2018 09:18:38 2126633 Link 0 |
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You will have to agree that the fact that Galway's underhand tactics are now getting national exposure can only be good for the game. I just hope that referees, linesmen and umpires start to take action. It's always a better game when it's 15 v 15.
DragHimDown (Monaghan) - Posts: 73 - 27/07/2018 09:28:03 2126636 Link 0 |
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9 red cards in 12 games this season for opposition teams..... that must be a record. It's seems Galway are always playing with a numerical advantage. Are they being favored or as McKenna highlighted they are engaging in very unsavory tactics?
DragHimDown (Monaghan) - Posts: 73 - 27/07/2018 11:10:38 2126670 Link 1 |
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Possibly both. Just pointing out some of his articles can be slanted. Galway are not the first team to dabble in the dark arts of Gaelic football. Someone rightly talked about Diarmuid and Cillian in our recent league clash. Probably more games since then when not only straight up fouling took place but also players tried to con officials for frees or trying to get players sent off, where we can also be accused. I still think McKenna is a very good writer. Possibly, as an Athy man, he's biased in this case?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7369 - 27/07/2018 13:04:55 2126712 Link 1 |
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What a load of hogwash and sour grapes from McKenna who I believe is from Kildare.Furthermore I think the 'Galway lad' you quote is a bit like Enda Kenny's 'man with a pint in each hand" i.e. imaginary! Thats my opinion seeing as you asked for it. Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 27/07/2018 13:35:18 2126722 Link 1 |