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This is great news it's been along time coming jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 20/07/2018 20:48:51 2124134 Link 1 |
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yes i hate free speech ...send them to the gulag WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 20/07/2018 21:21:35 2124148 Link 1 |
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There are limits to 'free speech'. Libel laws, for one thing, and simple good manners for another. Free speech matters when we, as they say, 'speak truth to power'. Less so when used as a justification for cheap insults by well-known media guys against amateur players.
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 20/07/2018 21:45:56 2124153 Link 6 |
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As long as criticism relates to player and team performance,I don't see the problem.The panel isn't there to talk about the weather.Fair and honest comment on what's happening on the field is always required. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2171 - 20/07/2018 21:57:51 2124157 Link 0 |
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So RTE wishes to censor its own pundits, the libel laws are clear and strict, why not express free speech, cherish it, protect it and if someone steps out of line nail them. It is not RTE's job to censor its pundits its the law. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 20/07/2018 22:18:28 2124169 Link 0 |
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But unfortunately it is usually not fair and many on a panel will criticise individuals not associated with their own counties but have a free run at others. There has been many quotes in the past associated with certain managers and players which could be considered as abuse.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 20/07/2018 23:31:56 2124180 Link 3 |
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I'd agree, expect we rarely get that from a number of the 'established' pundits. The same repeated narrative is pushed, regardless of what actually happened in the game. In fact for many games, we don't even get much analysis of what took place, instead a repetition of the same general points made over previous weeks/months.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2047 - 20/07/2018 23:32:47 2124181 Link 1 |
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Good to see they're gonna have some younger anqlysts. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7362 - 20/07/2018 23:34:24 2124183 Link 1 |
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Freedom of speech is a human right . However with rights come responsibilities . The exercising of free speech must be undertaken responsibly . That is all that Declan McBennett is asking of the pundits on RTE . To say that he is practicing censorship is wrong. He is also correct to start introducing new faces . He has fired a shot across the bows of Messrs Spillane, Brolly and O Rourke . For far too long those three have operated in their comfort zone. They offer precious little insight or analysis . They are long on endlessly regurgitated opinion . They compare very poorly with the hurling analysts The viewers deserve much more . Time for them to deliver or depart .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 21/07/2018 02:08:03 2124194 Link 2 |
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Sean Cavanagh outburst springs to mind where while they were right to. All him out, good old joe went overboard on his rant. My own county has been mocked in the past, bridesmaids, commmets about the hair color and boots of the great Ciaran MacDonald and Conor Mortimer...I don't see why our GAA players should be subject to abuse by a so called national broadcaster. Brolly preaches respect and some sort of GAA communist utopia where we are all equals but then he goes on TV and it's a free for all. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 21/07/2018 07:37:58 2124201 Link 2 |
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Can't really say I'm a huge fan of censorship, I think free speech holds better value, but having said that, I very rarely watch the RTE panel anyway, so this is basically immaterial to me. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 21/07/2018 08:38:26 2124205 Link 0 |
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Hand on heart, the last time I remember anything Joe Brolly said was his rant on Cavanagh, if you nothing these attention seekers they eventually go away. But apparently a lot of people find them entertaining so they remain, and fair enough, each to their own.
Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 21/07/2018 10:52:37 2124222 Link 0 |
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I'm also all for free speech and truth but fake news come to mind. Most of the facts you get on media now is death notices and results of matches. Most reporters/media personnel (very prominent guys) put a lot of their own spin on the story and there's many examples-unfortunately quite a lot of people believe all the read and most of us are influenced by what the read. A good example is the spin in all politics and it has unfortunately expanded to sport.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 21/07/2018 11:05:42 2124223 Link 2 |
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A lot of RTE pundits like Pat Spillane, spend more time attacking the game of Gaelic football than analysing the game. That is wrong. They are there to analyse the tactics, not praise Rugby/Soccer/Horse racing. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 21/07/2018 11:19:15 2124227 Link 0 |
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Love to see Cavanagh, Meehan, Gooch, Parsons and O shea take over from the other bores. tribesman125 (Galway) - Posts: 173 - 21/07/2018 11:28:16 2124231 Link 0 |
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Spot on. I'd add that their approach is also lazy, as it avoids having to do any real research or analysis.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2047 - 21/07/2018 11:48:38 2124235 Link 1 |
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I agree, without a doubt there's a lot of BS out there and to be honest I take most things I hear/see with a pinch of salt, especially from the media, who are unbelievably biased. I find life is easier when you don't get too worked up over what you hear or read, no matter what the source. The misery keeps coming you see, and when todays tragedy/scandal/crusade etc is over, they're straight on to the next, it must be exhausting stuff if you're caught up in it! Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 21/07/2018 12:03:10 2124236 Link 0 |
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I mute the RTE panel and anytime I see Marty Morrisey I grab the remote and change channels rapidly, I listen to the SG night time panel depending on who's on it, Brolly Spillane and O'Rourke are like watching last of the summer wine at this stage, much better analysis on Sky, but anyway all I want to see is the game, pity I can't find a way to mute out the RTE commentary though. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2757 - 21/07/2018 12:33:09 2124241 Link 1 |
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Am I the only one that prefers Marty's commentary to Canning and Maloney? I always find he makes it a more exciting championship feel. tribesman125 (Galway) - Posts: 173 - 21/07/2018 13:36:39 2124248 Link 0 |
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Yeah, you probably are the only one.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 21/07/2018 14:32:23 2124265 Link 1 |