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Tyrone V Dublin

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I'm confident we will win this but it dosn't matter much if we don't.
Beat Roscommon in Croker and we are in a semi against Galway or Monaghan.
Easy-peasy.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 878 - 17/07/2018 13:52:20    2123137

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Not really sure what way I feel yet about this weekend! Plenty to work on from the last day and I think Jim Gavin will make a couple of changes especially to the forward line which so far just isn't clicking as well as it can. Tyrone will be all guns blazing to erase the memory of last year's drubbing and Dublin will want to prove to anyone that they can go away from Croke Park on a big championship day and get the job done. I expect us to come out the right side of this by 2 or 3 points but I don't think it will be a big winning margin. Has the makings of being a special evening and one that the Super 8s needs to inject a bit of life into things after last weekend's damp squib. Will also be exciting to see how the game in Newbridge pans out.

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 23 - 17/07/2018 14:41:13    2123157

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Replying To Dermoot:  "A realistic, frustrated one. I still go and shout them on surely, but am I wasting my time if the manager has no belief in the players to beat Dublin? What happens if Tyrone go behind on Saturday evening? I'd love to see the manager have faith in the players and let them have a go, especially under these circumstances where it's not winner takes all. If they go behind, try something new to win the game, not just accept defeat.

There are a lot of very good players on this Tyrone team, I just want them to be given the best opportunity to be the best they can be."
Totally agree with this poster and many Tyrone friends of mine share his/her view. I watched the semi last year from high up in the hogan stand - I just couldn't believe the tactics from Harte- small man up front on his own for most parts marked by minimum of 2 Dubs - when Tyrone conceded possession they didnt even try and regain it - they just turned on their heels and ran back into defensive positions in their own half. I could see thru this if they didn't allow Dubs to score but the opposite happened and Dubs scored at will. I looked at harte and he just stood on sidelines with arms folded and motionless. He didn't even try something new second half. However he seems to be trying something different in last few games in having a big target man in Richard Donnelly up front with at least 2 others alongside him even without possession - but will he do this against the Dubs at weekend - only then will we know if Harte has learned anything or will he remain doggedly convinced of a tactic that's 10 years old and most good teams can exploit.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1045 - 17/07/2018 15:00:17    2123165

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Replying To IrishGael3:  "Totally agree with this poster and many Tyrone friends of mine share his/her view. I watched the semi last year from high up in the hogan stand - I just couldn't believe the tactics from Harte- small man up front on his own for most parts marked by minimum of 2 Dubs - when Tyrone conceded possession they didnt even try and regain it - they just turned on their heels and ran back into defensive positions in their own half. I could see thru this if they didn't allow Dubs to score but the opposite happened and Dubs scored at will. I looked at harte and he just stood on sidelines with arms folded and motionless. He didn't even try something new second half. However he seems to be trying something different in last few games in having a big target man in Richard Donnelly up front with at least 2 others alongside him even without possession - but will he do this against the Dubs at weekend - only then will we know if Harte has learned anything or will he remain doggedly convinced of a tactic that's 10 years old and most good teams can exploit."
I can't stop thinking Tyrone are going to eventually turn into Meath post Boylan era. Tyrone have a solid group of inter county footballers but I wouldn't say they are any better than around five or six teams and certainly not at the standard of two or three teams. The manager has kept Tyrone football close to the top table for ten years, winning Ulster Championships and playing Division 1. Yes they have huge backing which helps the conditioning of the team but sometimes people don't know what they have until later down the road. When the great All Ireland winning teams left the stage there was a realisation if not properly managed Tyrone could drop very quickly. They struggled to compete with Donegal and Monaghan in Ulster for a number of years but like Cody is doing with Kilkenny, Harte managed the transition perfectly. Tyrone simply don't have the forwards or the players to win an All Ireland. However if they can manage to somehow achieve it, 100% credit would have to go to Harte. He is imo working miracles with fairly limited resources..sadly for Tyrone maximising potential isn't always enough when your playing the best. He will learn from last year and they might get closer on Sat but I fully expect the Dubs to win by 6 plus. A defeat would not be down to the management as I doubt any other management team would have this Tyrone team any closer to achieving an All Ireland. It would be the best All Ireland win of all time if he did manage to win it.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 302 - 17/07/2018 15:59:06    2123202

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