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Great manager and has some brilliant achievements; but I think he hasn't helped Mayo do anything and I don't see them getting better under him; two all Ireland final appearances is good but they didn't win and no Connacht titles. Think he should go to another county if he got the chance. oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 30/06/2018 21:08:52 2116928 Link 1 |
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Definitely, time for him to go, we have gone backwards since he joined, cost us All-Ireland with his goalkeeping decisions, no new players, beaten by Galway 3 times, no Connacht title, and maybe the new manager will start by giving some other lad a chance at full back. That would be a positive start. Thanks to some great players for all the great memories, some have still a lot to give and they will
1951andwaiting (Galway) - Posts: 84 - 30/06/2018 22:14:42 2116972 Link 1 |
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Maybe it's time for him to go. But he inherited a team past it's peak and blooded some new players. Another Connacht title or a League title wasn't going to bring us closer to an All Ireland. Got us peaking in September and not at the quarter final stages like previous managers. Rarely played the same team twice in a row for good or for bad. He made plenty of mistakes but I admire him for having the balls to try something different. He still didn't fix the forward line. We're too reliant on Andy and winning frees for Cillian to kick. Who do we get now? The county board scuppered any chances of McStay and McHale getting the job. The need someone who relishes and is up for a challenge. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 30/06/2018 23:39:25 2117017 Link 1 |
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I thought Mayo peaked before Rochford took over. In 2014 they looked at their best. He done a good job to keep them competitive in the All Ireland series since then. It's a team that is going to have a few changes. Andy Moran,Colm Boyle, FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 01/07/2018 00:09:51 2117028 Link 0 |
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We gave him the benefit of the doubt for the cock up of switching goalie hours before the All Ireland Final replay which badly backfired, everybody makes a mistake but pathetic performances, struggled in the League 2 yrs in a row, no new players, puke football at times but the straw that broke the camels back was losing 3 times in 3 years in the Connacht championship (forget about the league match) to Galway, that was a sacking offence but this tired performance yet again, poor side line decisions and complete lack of faith in management means time for him and his backroom team to go, either resign today or be sacked by the co board, clubs and supporters. riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 01/07/2018 07:43:34 2117049 Link 0 |
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The David Clarke decision on the eve of an All Ireland final was a monumental cock up that cost those players an All Ireland medal. A truly great team but unfortunately no cigar. The whole debacle with the removal of previous m'ment meant that only an All Ireland title would suffice, that is now never going to happen, so time to go. Uimhir.a.3. (Galway) - Posts: 409 - 01/07/2018 09:13:03 2117062 Link 0 |
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He was very unlucky to he honest... fine margins. If mayonhad managed to win last year, they would be erecting statues of the man. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 01/07/2018 10:04:03 2117083 Link 5 |
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no point a new manager coming in and using the same panel and win an All Ireland title in his 1st year and then resigning and riding off into the sunset Seriously? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 01/07/2018 10:07:58 2117084 Link 1 |
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To be fair, i thought his tactics got the best out of the Mayo team. I know the keeper thing. But the defensive system he implemented in the first game in 2016 when no one was giving Mayo a hope caught Dublin on the hop. In 2017 he was the best manager in my opinion, Gavin had a nightmare first half and it was the bench that rescued Dublin. He was also the first manager to identify Dublin biggest threat and man mark Kilkenny. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 01/07/2018 10:34:56 2117099 Link 1 |
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That has been Mayo's problem for years, in the 2000s we had different managers all believed they could land Sam, they used the same players every year, no new blood came through, then we went through a quiet spell which culminated in losing to Longford in 2010 in the qualifiers, James Horan got the job in 2011 and rebuilt the team for the future so he was thinking long term, Holmes/ Connelly felt they had the plan to win with the same batch of players in 2015, McStay/ McHale though the same when they applied for the job, Rochford likewise thought this bunch of players had what it takes to land an All Ireland title and used roughly the same players that played since 2011 and used them for 3 further years, too much mileage on the legs of these players, badly needed to blood new players, his plan like Holmes/Connelly and McStay/McHale was to win the All Ireland title and then walk away and let the next manager rebuild the team. If we had 3 new players every year since Horan left then yesterdays game we would have 10 new players on the team and then with a few experienced lads we would have a stronger panel, instead it's the same players time and time again, look at how Kerry, Tyrone and Donegal have rebuilt their teams and still are in the mix in August, every year since 2015 we are hearing Mayo haven't the legs to go on but every year they prove the pundits wrong
riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 01/07/2018 11:47:08 2117134 Link 0 |
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Disagree here, firstly this is Mayo business, not Derry. Also, Rochford unified Mayo after all the problems they had and he was right up there with the best of them. He has 2 more years left on the contract. Most Galway lads would consider him as a great leader when the day comes for our own search. Mayo need to get behind Rochford for next 2 years, ye are lucky to have him.
suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1672 - 01/07/2018 12:07:02 2117144 Link 1 |
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Hmmmm A Galway person with 1951 and waiting as their username Obsessed To answer the question, look I'm happy mayo Re gone I can't say any different but talking about player retirements or managers leaving or staying so soon after the game annoys me Give him a while to get over this disappointment and take stock, similar with the county board waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 01/07/2018 12:12:11 2117146 Link 1 |
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Stay with Stephen Rochford. Time caught up with Mayo yesterday, and some of their long serving players may not be around in 2019. I read here that he has 2 years on his contract, he should be allowed decide what he wants to do. Mayo reached 2 All Irelands, losing both by a point. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1747 - 01/07/2018 12:27:15 2117152 Link 0 |
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Look at how close Mayo have come to winning in the last couple of years and how well prepared they were to take on teams at the latter end of the championship. They are short of real firepower up front or otherwise probably would have got over the line. Unless Mayo have uncovered some super forwards and aren't using them I'd leave him where he is. Kneejerk would be silly and do absolutely nothing to make things better. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 01/07/2018 12:33:08 2117154 Link 0 |
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He has an unusual record.No provincial title but 3 All -Ireland Final appearances including a replay and only lost by a point against a team being talked of as the greatest of all time.Rochford probably inherited a team past their best.I think Mayo peaked in 2013/2014.I remember their quarter Final destruction of reigning All-Ireland champions Donegal in 2013.That was a serious Mayo performance .Mayo also clearly have a problem getting over the line in All-Ireland finals.3 of this team's defeats in Finals were by a single point.Rochford failed to remedy that mental shortcoming but I wonder who could.The hand of history is on Mayo's shoulders in All-Ireland Finals and it shows. I'd expect Rochford to stay on with perhaps changes to his back room team. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2174 - 01/07/2018 12:35:15 2117156 Link 0 |
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Bit early to be calling for his head I suppose, he has done ok considering what he has had to work with, you could even argue he has done very well, though the goalie change in the All Ireland a few years ago was comical in how it backfired, Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2757 - 01/07/2018 12:48:35 2117165 Link 0 |
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I feel the county shouldn't panic not quite yet anyways rochford has two years remaining but I feel he will have to make changes to the way he and his management team prepare the team I don't buy this codswollop about winning provincial championship not being good enough preparation for later in the year. I said he needed a Connacht title this year and what we got was the usual defeat to Galway. I don't think the management performed well yesterday if they are with mayo moving forward they have to improve on it and there the need for more of the squad stepping up and taking some of the work load. Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 01/07/2018 15:59:24 2117236 Link 0 |
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Loosing to a Galway that has risen to the top of division 1 is a sackable offense? Seeing a mayo lad write that kind of tripe warms the cockles of my heart.
festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 01/07/2018 16:57:06 2117258 Link 1 |
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Now now festy , be nice on the way up as they say as you'll meet some of the same on the way down.
Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 01/07/2018 17:32:58 2117271 Link 0 |
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Wasn't meant as a gloat, so sorry if that's how it came across. Two of those three years Rochford got this team to the final while Galway crashed out ignobaly; but in this lads book getting beaten by Galway trumps that. Talk about having your cake and eating it.
festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 01/07/2018 17:50:58 2117286 Link 0 |