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Hopefully Galway do return as football needs strong Galway and also Down or Armagh or Cork or kildare or Meath teams to name but a few. Imagine a Galway v Dublin All Ireland final as it would be great for the game if Galway were All Ireland contenders . But this is Galways worst decade since Independence. If Galway dont reach a All Ireland senior final this year or next year it will be the first time since 1920s. Its the same for Meath ias would be the first decade since 20s Meath havent reached All Ireland senior final also. But Galway have a much better chance then Meath reaching a final this year or next year. They have underage sucess, they have the manager and coach, they have a great tradition and have a great foundation now with a strong div 1 campaign this year. Mayo should dip in the next few years when theyre current team breaks up. The Rossies look strong also and u could see great battle between the 2 in the west. But its more likely Galway will be the team to take over in the west. Roscommon have only really dominated Connacht football once in 65 years and that was in the lates 70s with a brillant Dermot Earley snr led team, one of the best teams never to win Sam. It will be fascinating to see if the Tribesmen are back and the next two years will tell allot. Football needs a strong Galway competing for Sam. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 07/06/2018 17:22:23 2108453 Link 1 |
Probably the only team that could realistically do it but I'm not sure about them in football yet. They had a great league and everything seems to be coming together nicely for them but I just have a niggling feeling that they'll disappoint us later on, not sure what I'm even basing that on as everything about them looks good. They are certainly a coming team with outstanding young players and I think they will win an All Ireland in the next couple of years if not this year. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 07/06/2018 18:43:14 2108479 Link 0 |
When you say Mayo will "dip" do you believe 1-3 seasons of rebuilding or falling of a cliff? Mayo have been told were heading off the cliff for as long as I can remember first going to a Mayo game.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 07/06/2018 22:38:30 2108537 Link 1 |
No
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 07/06/2018 22:47:40 2108541 Link 0 |
no harm in dreaming
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 07/06/2018 22:55:27 2108543 Link 0 |
Nah I think Galway will get to both finals and win the hurling but lose the football to Kerry
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 07/06/2018 23:00:43 2108545 Link 0 |
Spot on. Bad and all as Tipp are at moment if they can sneak out of group they have a great panel of players and I would rate them as the biggest danger. In football or odds really hard to look past Dublin. Saying that on a given day they could be caught. Super 8s wool suit Galway because they have youth and dept inn squad. But I don't think Rossies, Kerry, Donegal, Tyrone, Mayo and a couple others will be afraid of Galway...... But vice versa. Exciting times but next step first. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1833 - 07/06/2018 23:09:55 2108548 Link 0 |
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 07/06/2018 23:39:58 2108554 Link 1 |
I dont know I cannot read the future. But all I know 99.99 % of teams when the players have allot of mileage and players on the scene for near a decade and players hitting their 30s, it usually indicates that team have gone past their peak and will soon decline. It happened to great kerry team in 1987 88..It happened to great Meath team in 1992 93. It happened to the great Galway team in 02 03. It happened to the great Tyrone team in 2011 12. This has been a brillant Mayo team and if they dont win Sam soon, they will go down as the greatest team to never win an All Ireland. But no real great players coming through. There is the possibility Mayo will dip at the start of the 2020s. But Mayo could build up again and in the mid 20s and late 20s we could see another generation of Mayo players and a new team pushing to win Sam. This year could be there last year. They r good enough. But Dublin will take some beating. And Mayo have a long journey back to Super 8. But Mayo r still.probaly best equipped to beat Dublin. But the issue with losing finals and the age profile of the players could mean we will see a dip for Mayo in the coming years. Galway and Roscommon have younger teams and u get the feeling the balance of power in the west has shifted to Galway and Rossies. When a team declines in the past. Its usually takes a year or 2 for retirements, a 2 to 3 years transition bringing in new players. So the average dip for teams could be 4 to 5 years, I dont know Im just basing this theory on what has happened to most teams in the past, even kilkenny Tipp hurlers and Dublin and kerry footballers have dipped after a sucessful period. Its not like soccer u cannot buy players. You must blood new players over a couple of years. Thats just my opinion I could be right I could be wrong. You asked me did I think it will 1 to 3 years rebuilding or fall of a cliff. I dont know. No one knows. But from past evidence I would say when a county has has had a very successful period one of their most successful ever or most sucessful. The county nearly always falls off a cliff. For example Cavan had s great period in 40s and 50s by 70s th5e had fallen of the cliff. Galway had great period 56 to 66 they declined seriously after 70s. Kerry had golden age 75 to 86. They had a very poor period after. In Meath after our best era ever in 80s and 90s we have fallen off the cliff since. So have Armagh. So there is chance that Mayo might follow this pattern. But the difference could be Mayo havrnt won Sam..And it seems to me every man woman and child players managers are on almost crusade to end the famine and break the curse and win Sam..Thats what keeps driving Mayo teams. I believe if you won in 2012 13 Mayo probably wouldnt reached the final in 16 or 17. Its this hunger to win Sam that keeps driving Mayo teams. Mayo have unique factors motivating and pushing them..So Mayo might just rebuild for 1 to 3 years and a new team takes up the push for Sam. Thats my opinion Im really only guessing. Who knows what the future holds. But if Mayo decline and Galway dont take their place at the top table and if Monaghan decline will Down Derry Armagh take their place at top table of football. If kerry players arent as good as past players. Then Dublin dominance could continue and for the first time in history of gaelic football a team that had their best era ever eg Dublin 2011 to 2018 or 19. They continue to be sucessful. Dublin should dip and decline in 2020s. Even kilkenny and kerry declined after their best eras. Only having Cody has stopped kilkenny falling off a cliff. But if Dublin continue winning multiple back to back All Irelands in 2020s that would be unprecedented and unheard of in gaelic football. And if Mayo and Monaghan decline and no one takes their place. Dublin could be winning All Irelands in the 2020s the way there are winning leinster titles in this decade.. We r definatly heading out of an era of Kerry Dublin Donegal Mayo Monaghan. The same way at the end of 00s we saw the period of dominance of kerry Tyrone Cork and Armgh coming to close. The same way in the 90s Meath Cork Down Donegal Galway were the top teams in 90s. And kerry Dublin Offaly Meath Cork were the top teams in the 80s. Football , there is a changing of the guard at the top every 6 or 7 or 8 years. Dublin and kerry are usually strong but teams in the top 5 or 6 teams in the country change every decade r so. Kerry Dublin Galway could be the top teams in 2020s. Who else will join them. And there will be a team no one predicts that will make a breakthrough that no one saw coming. Like how Down in early 60s, Meath in lates 80s, Ulster teams in early 90s, Galway in late 90s, Tyrone in 00s and Donegal in this decade. If u said two or three years before any of those teams won Sam would win the All Ireland noone would have believed in 1959 that Down would win 3 Sams in 60s. Or no one would believe in 2008 or 2009 that Donegal would lift Sam in 3 years time. Things will change. But no ones how they will change in football. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 08/06/2018 00:33:09 2108560 Link 0 |
It's very hard to see anyone stop the Galway hurlers this year. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 735 - 08/06/2018 05:35:33 2108566 Link 0 |
I'd disagree. Everyone is basing where they are at on the League performances. I couldnt see them beating Mayo, Kerry or Dublin in Croke Park. I'd also see Tyrone and Monaghan being possibly too shrewd for them. I think it's still far too early to make them realistic All Ireland contenders. A semi final place would be a major achievement. There wont be a kick of a ball in it in the Connacht final and i'd imagine Roscommon will be confident of beating them too.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 08/06/2018 08:33:32 2108574 Link 0 |
I'll give ye a free lift to the Cliffs of Moher if ye want? Only messin before the lads who don't get the craic start lumping in. But your right, ive read and heard in so many places that Mayo football is on the edge of a cliff but I don't believe it too many strong football only clubs in the county for there to be a dearth in talent of them proportions. The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 708 - 08/06/2018 09:09:33 2108580 Link 0 |
Galway football is on the rise. Strong underage teams coming as well. I cannot see them winning Sam this year but they will be in the mix and are back as a serious contender after many years in the doldrums. unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 08/06/2018 10:30:52 2108609 Link 0 |
this!!
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 08/06/2018 11:03:34 2108623 Link 1 |
I don't think the double will ever be done again. Realistically the only counties that could do it now are Galway & Cork and neither of those two will be winning the All-Ireland SFC with Dublin as strong as they are. M Lyster (Antrim) - Posts: 463 - 08/06/2018 13:47:57 2108689 Link 0 |
Well Tyrone & Monaghan have been booted out of the Ulster championship. How shrewd was that? Can't see Galway winning Sam either by the way but I'ld give them every chance of beating anyone bar Dublin in Croker. Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 08/06/2018 16:44:34 2108745 Link 0 |
DOC - I think a few Galway people are getting over excited and hyped up...something often leveled at Mayo fans. Mayo often had great league campaigns but were told to shut up and sit down until we done something in the summer months...Galway have a fine coming team but talk of a double is way to premature in my opinion. Even on the hurling side you had Damien Hayes on Newstalk saying Galway are as good as the great Kilkenny teams we have seen in recent years...bold statement. A lot of big and small ball to be played yet.... yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 08/06/2018 18:12:15 2108766 Link 2 |
Anyone who's honest will only express moderate optimism that we'll beat Roscommon; which should say all that needs to be said about our chances of the double! festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 08/06/2018 20:32:57 2108799 Link 1 |
A Mayo man started this thread...
Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 08/06/2018 20:49:29 2108800 Link 0 |
I think this was stated as tongue in cheek....anyway I was talking generally, not this thread
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 09/06/2018 07:15:58 2108850 Link 1 |