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Paddy Joe Ryan can huff and puff about the new format of the championship using it as a smoke screen for his and his county board's inadequate management. Walsh Park will not be ready next year either. Another year missed by this crop of young players to achieve more. " A field is just a field " What nonsense. What way would the decision have gone yesterday if it was thousands of Waterford fans behind the goal ?
Walsh Park would have held the crowd yesterday. Safety another smoke screen. Dublin could accommodate 9000 in Parnell Park. Cusack Park is nothing to write home about if having to go to the toilet in the dark is not dangerous.
The issue of a better facilitate in Waterford would be resolved years ago except for his generation East West bias. It still exist despite denial. Players got over it years ago.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2663 - 05/06/2018 00:54:15    2107511

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A bit like Offaly, what were Waterford at for the last 20 years.....nobody to blame but themselves.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 05/06/2018 08:33:56    2107542

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We rebuilt O'Connor Park in the 2000's. It is a fine stadium now. Offaly opened the Faithful Fields, training centre last year. At least we got that much right!

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1745 - 05/06/2018 10:20:32    2107584

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Typical county board response to something like this. they need replaced with new, forward thinking, business like, younger men/women. But they will hold on to the bitter end, saying the same thing year after year.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 05/06/2018 11:05:45    2107601

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Waterford should be playing their home games in Nowlan Park in Kilkenny. It's a short spin up on the motorway and makes more sense than playing their games in Limerick etc. I'm sure Kilkenny as a City would love the extra games also. They're playing Leinster matches in Salthill so geography shouldn't matter.

Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 05/06/2018 11:36:40    2107624

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Replying To thelongridge:  "We rebuilt O'Connor Park in the 2000's. It is a fine stadium now. Offaly opened the Faithful Fields, training centre last year. At least we got that much right!"
And both are a credit to offaly. I think that they will return to being competitive on the pitch as well but that will take time. Looking or charity doesn't help though. They need to face up to their reality, take their medicine, rebuild in the Mcdonagh cup, win it and come back stronger. If that has to happen a couple of times until the depth is there so be it.

Tadhgmacda (Limerick) - Posts: 99 - 05/06/2018 12:14:51    2107641

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Replying To Canuck:  "Paddy Joe Ryan can huff and puff about the new format of the championship using it as a smoke screen for his and his county board's inadequate management. Walsh Park will not be ready next year either. Another year missed by this crop of young players to achieve more. " A field is just a field " What nonsense. What way would the decision have gone yesterday if it was thousands of Waterford fans behind the goal ?
Walsh Park would have held the crowd yesterday. Safety another smoke screen. Dublin could accommodate 9000 in Parnell Park. Cusack Park is nothing to write home about if having to go to the toilet in the dark is not dangerous.
The issue of a better facilitate in Waterford would be resolved years ago except for his generation East West bias. It still exist despite denial. Players got over it years ago."
Isn't the problem that a perimeter wall on Keanes road was knocked making access unsafe thus reducing capacity further? Why you would knock a perimeter wall this year is beyond me but that's what happened I believe.
Regarding capacity, the venue must be big enough to house all season ticket holders for both counties playing. I think they are capped at 5k per county but I'm not aware of what each county has sold.

Tadhgmacda (Limerick) - Posts: 99 - 05/06/2018 12:18:46    2107643

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walsh park is the worst ground in the country and i include drogheda in that.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 05/06/2018 13:43:25    2107677

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Replying To Faithfull:  "Waterford should be playing their home games in Nowlan Park in Kilkenny. It's a short spin up on the motorway and makes more sense than playing their games in Limerick etc. I'm sure Kilkenny as a City would love the extra games also. They're playing Leinster matches in Salthill so geography shouldn't matter."
I agree but apparently when it comes to the sacrosanct Munster championship geography does matter. Playing a Munster championship game in Nowlan Park would be considered sacrilegious. The Leinster air would contaminate its purity. I'd imagine Waterford would have chosen Nowlan Park as their home venue if they had that option, even if only for the sake of their supporters.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 05/06/2018 14:30:29    2107707

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You can't play Munster hurling championship games outside Munster. Remember when tourists think of Ireland the first thing they think of is the Munster hurling championship.
That Kilkenny air would be to the detriment of the game.
My point re Offaly above was that complaining over something 20 years later than the problem is locking the door when the horse has bolted

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 05/06/2018 15:53:46    2107751

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "I agree but apparently when it comes to the sacrosanct Munster championship geography does matter. Playing a Munster championship game in Nowlan Park would be considered sacrilegious. The Leinster air would contaminate its purity. I'd imagine Waterford would have chosen Nowlan Park as their home venue if they had that option, even if only for the sake of their supporters."
Quote one Munsterman who has come out against Waterford playing in Nowlan Park. The chips on shoulders on this thread is insane, just because Munster people are proud and enjoy their hurling tradition. Sorry lads, we should all never talk highly of Munster hurling anymore and admit Leinster is actually the superior championship.

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 05/06/2018 16:54:25    2107767

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According to Wikipedia fraher field has a capacity of 15,000 (I'd imagine it's nowhere near that) but why not play them there until they've something adiquit. We don't need a situation like with Dublin, a packed house in a smaller ground is much better than nobody in limerick like we had sunday

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 05/06/2018 17:03:55    2107774

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The two games where the opposition did not have home advantage were the games that team gave a credible performance despite massive injuries. Really wining the Tipp game. Paddy Joe Ryan and his county board should step down for their treatment to this team with regards home advantage. It shows how stupid a statement "a field is just a field" is. Trying to deflect attention away from terrible management and zero b-lls in standing up for our county players and supporters.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2663 - 17/06/2018 16:10:30    2112285

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Replying To thelongridge:  "We rebuilt O'Connor Park in the 2000's. It is a fine stadium now. Offaly opened the Faithful Fields, training centre last year. At least we got that much right!"
It has two decent stands but having no terrace behind one of the goals really takes from it.

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 18/06/2018 21:50:15    2112888

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Replying To county man:  "It has two decent stands but having no terrace behind one of the goals really takes from it."
It's a county with a population of about 80,000, what do you want them to do, build another Nou Camp or something?

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 18/06/2018 22:00:02    2112892

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What I can't figure out is that a few years back some sort of job was done on Walsh Park in that the banks were seemingly built up and look to be covered in some sort of gravel or shale, why wasn't proper terracing installed then? Seems a complete half arsed job was done and Waterford players and supporters deserve so much better, now it could be 2020 before the place is finished!! Then again half arsed jobs are nothing new in the GAA, look at Semple €16 million upgrade and still half a roof on the Kinnane Stand, pillars all over the shop and seats with no backs, MacHale Park €14 million mostly on a new stand with yes, pillars holding up the roof, and generally looking like a Meccano set, Cusack Park Ennis €2 million refitting a stand that was beyond refitting and has the legroom only a toddler could enjoy, Gaelic Grounds Limerick €12 million upgrade that includes 12'000 seats.........with no roof..........in Ireland!!!!!!! The design and value for money GAA stadia development have incurred is far from good, I hope Waterford (and Meath) learn from these past blunders and I really hope Waterford get to play at home in 2019.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 18/06/2018 22:10:25    2112900

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Replying To county man:  "It has two decent stands but having no terrace behind one of the goals really takes from it."
I love O'Connor Park, smart tidy design and built to a high standard, a real good template for stadia development in many counties going forward, the vacant goal end doesn't really feel like a negative for me but maybe some day they will put a small terrace there.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 18/06/2018 22:13:57    2112904

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Replying To Richieq:  "What I can't figure out is that a few years back some sort of job was done on Walsh Park in that the banks were seemingly built up and look to be covered in some sort of gravel or shale, why wasn't proper terracing installed then? Seems a complete half arsed job was done and Waterford players and supporters deserve so much better, now it could be 2020 before the place is finished!! Then again half arsed jobs are nothing new in the GAA, look at Semple €16 million upgrade and still half a roof on the Kinnane Stand, pillars all over the shop and seats with no backs, MacHale Park €14 million mostly on a new stand with yes, pillars holding up the roof, and generally looking like a Meccano set, Cusack Park Ennis €2 million refitting a stand that was beyond refitting and has the legroom only a toddler could enjoy, Gaelic Grounds Limerick €12 million upgrade that includes 12'000 seats.........with no roof..........in Ireland!!!!!!! The design and value for money GAA stadia development have incurred is far from good, I hope Waterford (and Meath) learn from these past blunders and I really hope Waterford get to play at home in 2019."
I'd say when the refurbishments/rebuilds were done on a lot of grounds recently, it was on the basis you might get 1 big championship game at home every 3/4 years, if you're lucky. With round-robins introduced in hurling, and super 8s in football (and who knows where that'll lead), it wouldn't be surprising in the next few years to see counties developing their home stadiums a bit better to maximize potential earnings.

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 18/06/2018 22:27:55    2112917

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Replying To extranjero:  "It's a county with a population of about 80,000, what do you want them to do, build another Nou Camp or something?"
Nope, Nou Camp's tiering gradient wouldn't be allowed in Ireland !!

Just finish the stadium they have. A small county is allowed to have terracing behind the goals too...

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 18/06/2018 22:35:04    2112921

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Replying To Richieq:  "What I can't figure out is that a few years back some sort of job was done on Walsh Park in that the banks were seemingly built up and look to be covered in some sort of gravel or shale, why wasn't proper terracing installed then? Seems a complete half arsed job was done and Waterford players and supporters deserve so much better, now it could be 2020 before the place is finished!! Then again half arsed jobs are nothing new in the GAA, look at Semple €16 million upgrade and still half a roof on the Kinnane Stand, pillars all over the shop and seats with no backs, MacHale Park €14 million mostly on a new stand with yes, pillars holding up the roof, and generally looking like a Meccano set, Cusack Park Ennis €2 million refitting a stand that was beyond refitting and has the legroom only a toddler could enjoy, Gaelic Grounds Limerick €12 million upgrade that includes 12'000 seats.........with no roof..........in Ireland!!!!!!! The design and value for money GAA stadia development have incurred is far from good, I hope Waterford (and Meath) learn from these past blunders and I really hope Waterford get to play at home in 2019."
Couldn't agree more and you're spot on about the Gaelic Grounds too....

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 18/06/2018 22:38:14    2112924

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