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Two tier championship is needed more than ever come on these fixtures are a waste of time , Munster is dead Kerry are miles ahead and to keep wasting people's money on these silly games is crazy. Please someone don't tell me that will help Clare football by playing and getting hammered. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/06/2018 18:04:58 2106927 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "Munster football is in a very good place, all you need to do is look at the League. If Clare or Tipp were in Leinster they'd be playing ye in the provincial final for each of the last 4-5 years" Meath have walloped Clare 2 years in a row so don't think so buddy Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 237 - 03/06/2018 18:11:48 2106936 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Two tier championship is needed more than ever come on these fixtures are a waste of time , Munster is dead Kerry are miles ahead and to keep wasting people's money on these silly games is crazy. Please someone don't tell me that will help Clare football by playing and getting hammered." Fine idea but how many teams would you have in the top tier considering Clare finished 11th in the league above Cork. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 03/06/2018 18:21:39 2106952 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Two tier championship is needed more than ever come on these fixtures are a waste of time , Munster is dead Kerry are miles ahead and to keep wasting people's money on these silly games is crazy. Please someone don't tell me that will help Clare football by playing and getting hammered." Clare finished third in division 2. If there was a two tier championship, they would be in the top tier. Kerry and Clare have played each other 5 times in the last 5 years now and have been reasonably competitive until today. Munster 2014 - 4 points Munster 2016 - 12 points AI QF 2016 - 11 points Munster 2017 - 6 points Munster 2018 - 22 points expe (UK) - Posts: 31 - 03/06/2018 18:22:13 2106953 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Two tier championship is needed more than ever come on these fixtures are a waste of time , Munster is dead Kerry are miles ahead and to keep wasting people's money on these silly games is crazy. Please someone don't tell me that will help Clare football by playing and getting hammered." Totally agree. Thankfully there are only two teams in Connacht trailing like this, so for the most part it's a fairly competitive province, but it's hard to see what value today's pastings were to Clare or Sligo. festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 03/06/2018 18:23:23 2106955 Link
Clare are a solid division 2 team and shouldn't be losing by that margin to Kerry. Hard to know if it was a case of Kerry were very good or Clare were very bad today but they were completely outclassed all over the pitch. Might just be one of those days as they have given Kerry a reasonable game in recent seasons. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 03/06/2018 18:39:37 2106967 Link
Replying To expe: "Clare finished third in division 2. If there was a two tier championship, they would be in the top tier. Kerry and Clare have played each other 5 times in the last 5 years now and have been reasonably competitive until today. Munster 2014 - 4 points Munster 2016 - 12 points AI QF 2016 - 11 points Munster 2017 - 6 points Munster 2018 - 22 points" Exactly , Dublin and Kerry can play worst teams than Clare so that tells you even more than ever two tier system. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/06/2018 19:52:34 2107010 Link
Thought the Kingdom would be comfortable today, especially being at home, but not 22 points comfortable. Both Kerry and Galway have laid down early season markers and both look shoe ins for the provincial titles. Surprised that Clare were so outclassed, they've been a very decent side these last few years. Bouncing back after today will be a challenge. Munster final will be very interesting. Will Cork get within points? Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 03/06/2018 19:56:52 2107013 Link
Replying To expe: "Clare finished third in division 2. If there was a two tier championship, they would be in the top tier. Kerry and Clare have played each other 5 times in the last 5 years now and have been reasonably competitive until today. Munster 2014 - 4 points Munster 2016 - 12 points AI QF 2016 - 11 points Munster 2017 - 6 points Munster 2018 - 22 points" Exactly. Clare are a decent side and this game was not a true reflection of where they are at. One-sided games happen from time-to-time, even between two top teams. Mayo slaughtered Donegal in the 2013 quarter-final when Donegal were reigning champions and Donegal came back to beat the Dubs a year later. Kilkenny annihilated Tipp in the 2012 hurling semi-final. A team should not be judged on the basis of one bad game. Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 996 - 03/06/2018 20:54:28 2107038 Link
Replying To Pericles: "Thought the Kingdom would be comfortable today, especially being at home, but not 22 points comfortable. Both Kerry and Galway have laid down early season markers and both look shoe ins for the provincial titles. Surprised that Clare were so outclassed, they've been a very decent side these last few years. Bouncing back after today will be a challenge. Munster final will be very interesting. Will Cork get within points?" munster final is a forgone conclusion , Kerry by as much as they want. superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 03/06/2018 21:01:19 2107041 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Exactly , Dublin and Kerry can play worst teams than Clare so that tells you even more than ever two tier system." So how many teams do you want in the top tier then? Carlow beat Kildare Longford beat Meath Fermanagh beat Monaghan One of Laois and Carlow will be in the Leinster final. That tells you more than ever no two tier system, not Clare having an off day in Killarney and getting ripped to pieces by a set of Kerry forwards that you described before the games as "frightening" and "a better forward line than Dublin's right now". expe (UK) - Posts: 31 - 03/06/2018 21:27:45 2107053 Link
Replying To superbluedub: "munster final is a forgone conclusion , Kerry by as much as they want." Yep essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 03/06/2018 21:42:56 2107063 Link
Bad off day for Clare played a massive role in the freak scoreline and they certainly would have been competitive for much longer if they most off their chances they kicked wide. Killarney is an intimidating place for opponents if they don't start well I had this down as 5/6 point as games between Kerry and Clare always are so I wouldn't read a whit into the Kingdom today Although I'd worry that failure to score a goal against a team who was forced to chase the game from early on suggests problems , only scored 3 in the League and no goal since the Mayo game which makes it 6 games without raising a green flag - a long time So to 3 weeks and a trek to Franks palace and what promises to a gripping affair between the greatest of rivals , how these young bucks fare outside our lions den is impossible to predict but I'd give them half a chance 37thHeaven (Kerry) - Posts: 102 - 03/06/2018 21:52:40 2107066 Link
At game today. Kerry forwards were awesome and gave the Clare defence the complete runaround. Kerry defence good too but Clare forwards disappointed despite getting some good and some not so good ball from Brennan and O'Connor. Clare actually won midfield for a good part of the the match until both tired and no suitable replacements. Clare will be very disappointed but very few counties would have held the Kerry forwards today particularly this early in the championship. All good so far from the new championship lads. dingle2 (Kerry) - Posts: 278 - 03/06/2018 21:57:54 2107070 Link
In reality it's the super four, Dublin Kerry,Galway,Mayo. salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 03/06/2018 22:39:15 2107090 Link
Replying To expe: "Clare finished third in division 2. If there was a two tier championship, they would be in the top tier. Kerry and Clare have played each other 5 times in the last 5 years now and have been reasonably competitive until today. Munster 2014 - 4 points Munster 2016 - 12 points AI QF 2016 - 11 points Munster 2017 - 6 points Munster 2018 - 22 points" Define competitive? Kerry won all 5 games (you didn't even state that as it didn't need to be said) and 3 were by wide margins. jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 381 - 03/06/2018 22:44:18 2107091 Link
Dreadful stuff from Clare.. simple as that Kerry support will be thinking big now.. thinking back to their young guns in the 1970's Cork and Kerry made a show of Muster football on the way to the final. Complete show. Should be an interesting final. Kerry would have more of a challenge playing against their current minor team so it'll be interesting to see if Cork can bring a higher degree of intensity that if such a cakewalk result seen today may be bad preparation for the final.. I doubt it though Kerry by 7+ jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/06/2018 23:01:55 2107100 Link
Clare are a decent side. They would do well against most teams in the country. They have no tradition of beating Kerry at any level. 1992 senior and an under 21 game around 2000 are the only time I can ever remember Clare beating Kerry. They might 'give them a game' every now and again. But also facile victories like this happen every now and again. Both teams know that a close game is possible and a facile victory for Kerry is possible. However, both teams know that Clare will almost never win.. Probably less than one in one hundred times. They would be less inhibited against Mayo or Donegal say. With Cork, some of our players have beaten Kerry. For under 21 for a while there, we won almost every year. At club level, we won two of the club championships this year. However, we too are slipping. No minor victory for years and several pastings. Related, we have no colleges victories and at under 21 /20 we have slipped now as well. Clare and Tipp have caught us. The standard in Munster isn't bad. But it isn't competitive. Kerry are miles better. They will win against us by as much as they want to win by. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 03/06/2018 23:18:11 2107105 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Dreadful stuff from Clare.. simple as that Kerry support will be thinking big now.. thinking back to their young guns in the 1970's Cork and Kerry made a show of Muster football on the way to the final. Complete show. Should be an interesting final. Kerry would have more of a challenge playing against their current minor team so it'll be interesting to see if Cork can bring a higher degree of intensity that if such a cakewalk result seen today may be bad preparation for the final.. I doubt it though Kerry by 7+" There will be nobody in kerry foolish enough to be thinking big after beating Clare. Despite the scoreboard there was plenty for Kerry to improve on, we were beaten in midfield, and Clare ran through us easily at times but just didn't bring their shooting boots. Kerry didn't create a clear goal chance either despite hitting over 30 points. Priorities now are to win the Munster final and get in to the super 8's. It's hard to know what to expect from Cork in three weeks time. Should be a good day out anyway, looking forward to seeing the new PUC and hopefully a good game. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 04/06/2018 10:48:02 2107198 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Dreadful stuff from Clare.. simple as that Kerry support will be thinking big now.. thinking back to their young guns in the 1970's Cork and Kerry made a show of Muster football on the way to the final. Complete show. Should be an interesting final. Kerry would have more of a challenge playing against their current minor team so it'll be interesting to see if Cork can bring a higher degree of intensity that if such a cakewalk result seen today may be bad preparation for the final.. I doubt it though Kerry by 7+" There is a big difference between bringing young fellas through to senior in the 70s/80s than today jim, in the 70s/80s a lot of young lads were working on farms and in bogs and building sites, they had to walk or cycle miles to training, young lads today are pure soft heading into senior training and it takes a few years to build up the stamina needed to win allirelands. In all fairness we probably could beat cork because they have a few young lads as well and mentally they're weak but after that I can't see much for us. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 04/06/2018 10:50:12 2107199 Link