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Daithi Burke Challenge

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I've looked back over the galway/kk match a few times since Sunday, although I wasn't there I have seen numerous replays of his tackle on Luke Scanlon. While its all well and good to protect your square is there not a limit?
Like he made no attempt to play the ball only the man, he could have caused serious damage to Scanlon (to his credit got a bit of treatment and got on with things and none of the kilkenny players made a big hullabaloo about it).
As a neutral the games result was of no importance to me, but surely Burke should have seen the line for it?? If it was done in a club match you would expect the line no??
Or am I going soft in my old age

butterfly (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 30/05/2018 10:26:07    2105510

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gizzy lyng got sent off for a shoulder to the chest v galway a number of years ago.
the only person i have ever seen sent off for it.
disgraceful tackle.
having said that,if liam ryan did it to a galway player on sunday i would be on my feet applauding him.....

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 30/05/2018 10:50:30    2105517

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Replying To butterfly:  "I've looked back over the galway/kk match a few times since Sunday, although I wasn't there I have seen numerous replays of his tackle on Luke Scanlon. While its all well and good to protect your square is there not a limit?
Like he made no attempt to play the ball only the man, he could have caused serious damage to Scanlon (to his credit got a bit of treatment and got on with things and none of the kilkenny players made a big hullabaloo about it).
As a neutral the games result was of no importance to me, but surely Burke should have seen the line for it?? If it was done in a club match you would expect the line no??
Or am I going soft in my old age"
I thought Scanlon over carried it, not in a sense of too many steps, but in that he ran too far without either looking to get a shot away or pass to a team mate. He seemed to have his head down and the further he went, the more I could see it coming. It wasn't a great challenge but as a hurler there's other things I would be far worried about being on the receiving end. When have you ever seen a player get badly injured from such a challenge? It will hurt and put you on your behind for a bit but usually no more. So in summary, I'd say a booking is apt. Getting the line for it seems a little too harsh.

Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 30/05/2018 11:02:09    2105525

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To be honest it was near enough to what Sonny Bill Williams did in the summer and for me it was a clear red card

kazoochka (Galway) - Posts: 343 - 30/05/2018 11:24:11    2105534

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I'm sure those Kilkenny players are well used to challenges like that in training hence they made nothing of it .

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1913 - 30/05/2018 11:24:53    2105536

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As soon as I headed for goal I knew what he was going to meet! A bit like Sergio Ramos, he might not have wanted to hurt the player but he didn't really care about the outcome!
It is catch 22 though, he can't meet him shoulder to shoulder, so should he get out of the way and let him on? No is the answer to that.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 30/05/2018 11:44:58    2105543

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Thing is, Burke didn't really go out to nail him. He stood his ground but turned his shoulder so it was dirty. If he charged at him then it would definitely be a red. I've watched it back a few times and I think it looks a lot worse than it actually is. If that was TJ Reid or Walter Walsh bombing in they probably wouldn't have hit the deck because they're bigger men than Scanlon, whose only a small young fella so any hit on him is going to look a little worse. Scanlon nearly loses control of his run as well. If Burke just stood up straight than he was going to get clattered himself.

Anyway, Cody doesn't think there should be red cards in hurling so we can move on!

Townee2018 (Galway) - Posts: 281 - 30/05/2018 13:22:08    2105583

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Stupid challenge.

Scanlon had lost possession and still Burke went to nail him for no apparent reason.

Gave away a penalty when there was no reason to. I'm sure his team mates let him know about it at half time that he had kept Kilkenny in the game through a stupid challenge.

In a closer game you'd be going mad at your full back for being so stupid as to hand them 3 points on a plate.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 30/05/2018 14:49:54    2105626

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Stupid challenge.

Scanlon had lost possession and still Burke went to nail him for no apparent reason.

Gave away a penalty when there was no reason to. I'm sure his team mates let him know about it at half time that he had kept Kilkenny in the game through a stupid challenge.

In a closer game you'd be going mad at your full back for being so stupid as to hand them 3 points on a plate."
All of the foregoing.Absolutely a red card challenge.Hope Burke learns from it. I'd like to see Galway have a long Summer and he's a fine full back but the challenge on Scanlon which cost Galway a goal made no sense at all.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2170 - 30/05/2018 15:25:57    2105639

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Brian Cody would have given Noel Hickey a medal for a tackle like that back when he was manning the edge of the square for the Cats. Didn't think it was red card worthy myself. Yellow card and penalty was fine.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2218 - 30/05/2018 15:48:59    2105650

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It was a terrible tackle and I would say Burke deserved a red card. Thankfully Luke Scanlon wasn't badly hurt. Burke should've got the line.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 30/05/2018 17:14:33    2105683

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It was nothing short of a disgraceful tackle that should have been a definite red.
On a slightly separate note, Joe Canning seems to have an extra few lives when it comes to what he has to do before a referee will dare yellow card him

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 30/05/2018 17:57:45    2105695

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Sure it's a man's game lads.
You can't be sending a fella off for a good solid challenge and all that.
Then you have a comment like " horrendous challenge " but I'd applaud him for it. Say no more.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 30/05/2018 18:10:04    2105700

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If Galway lost would we be talking about this?

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2131 - 30/05/2018 19:52:32    2105727

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Replying To butterfly:  "I've looked back over the galway/kk match a few times since Sunday, although I wasn't there I have seen numerous replays of his tackle on Luke Scanlon. While its all well and good to protect your square is there not a limit?
Like he made no attempt to play the ball only the man, he could have caused serious damage to Scanlon (to his credit got a bit of treatment and got on with things and none of the kilkenny players made a big hullabaloo about it).
As a neutral the games result was of no importance to me, but surely Burke should have seen the line for it?? If it was done in a club match you would expect the line no??
Or am I going soft in my old age"
Are you attacking the ref or Burke in this post, please enlighten us? Burke would hardly send himself off.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1671 - 30/05/2018 20:35:33    2105742

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100% Straight Red card for Burke who completely took him out by confronting him with a shoulder to the chest instead of confronting him by standing his ground with one hand on the top of the hurl the other hand on the bottom of the hurl waist height in a horizontal position and just bottle him in.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2212 - 30/05/2018 23:18:08    2105784

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Good to see some common sense posts here. We don't want to see hurling go the way of Football where lads are sent off for nothing.

The 2013 season was ruined when hurling referees were booking and sending players off for nothing (Shefflin, Ryan O'Dwyer, Horgan less so). Those three games were decided by the sendings off.

I think Scanlon showed his naivety and inexperience by carrying the ball into contact with Burke. Burke was hardly going to step out of the way like a matador.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 30/05/2018 23:36:42    2105795

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Imagine DB playing 6 for the Galway footballers, game changer

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 709 - 31/05/2018 08:15:21    2105836

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Killarney.87 that is true but at the same time the difference is that all 3 you mentioned were trying to play the ball. That was not the case with Daithi Burke.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 31/05/2018 08:56:38    2105840

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I'm a bit torn on this one. You don't want your full back taking any prisoners and I don't want hurling getting too sanitized, but as these types of tackles go it was edging towards the more extreme end of the scale in my opinion (but nowhere near Clinton Hennessy on Bonor Maher for example), Burke could have little complaint if he walked.

Overall, I'm happy enough that he only got a yellow, but maybe I'd feel stronger if the offence occurred in a more tight game at a later stage in the championship!

Heftydickonem (Kilkenny) - Posts: 175 - 31/05/2018 10:54:22    2105882

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