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Kildare V Carlow

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I am delighted for Carlow. Good on them. They have made steady progress and deserve all the plaudits on today's win.

We are in a sorry sorry state. This has been coming Manager has lost the dressing room, probably going on for a year or so now since Armagh match. Players don't deserve any credit either, they are at best average, moderately lazy with a sense they are better then they actually are. What they need is a motivator. Unfortunately they are bored senseless with a manager who drills them with stat after stat, decimal point included. Also bad in reading a game. Let them play football and enjoy it. let them have a few beers. I expect some players to walk today if manager does not step aside in the very near future.

Kildare30 (Kildare) - Posts: 603 - 27/05/2018 17:44:14    2104209

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Replying To Kildare30:  "I am delighted for Carlow. Good on them. They have made steady progress and deserve all the plaudits on today's win.

We are in a sorry sorry state. This has been coming Manager has lost the dressing room, probably going on for a year or so now since Armagh match. Players don't deserve any credit either, they are at best average, moderately lazy with a sense they are better then they actually are. What they need is a motivator. Unfortunately they are bored senseless with a manager who drills them with stat after stat, decimal point included. Also bad in reading a game. Let them play football and enjoy it. let them have a few beers. I expect some players to walk today if manager does not step aside in the very near future."
Lost dressing room a while back. Big bust up on team bus coming back from a league game this year. My work takes me into contact with a few on panel. Big issues.

commander (Kildare) - Posts: 225 - 27/05/2018 17:58:43    2104217

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Replying To supersub15:  "Novalis, that's reasonable, going across to the game, going to vote as well, relatively low scoring,something in and around your prediction, Paul Broderick and Enna O'Connor's scores may very well decide the outcome one way or the other, me thinks.
May the best team win."
Novalis, that's reasonable, going across to the game, going to vote as well, relatively low scoring,something in and around your prediction, Paul Broderick and Enna O'Connor's scores may very well decide the outcome one way or the other, me thinks.
May the best team win.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 1748 - 25/05/2018 09:38:28 210373

A reasonable prediction, if I do say so my self.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 27/05/2018 19:13:46    2104253

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Great day for the scallion eaters. Team is well drilled, work for each other and are fit.

Shows the nonsense about a b championship up for what it is with Carlow v Laois in the semis.

Carlow are rising folks, get used to it.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 27/05/2018 19:19:11    2104258

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To paraphrase an old joke: The new Kildare battle flag: a white cross on a white background.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 27/05/2018 19:49:59    2104283

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Look it's fantastic for Carlow as it was for longford. And despite all the banter I give to Kildare, I feel your pain. This is not good for either Kildare or Meath gaa in general. And is a huge set back to both counties. Again I am thrilled for Carlow. It's some achievement. But for Kildare, if we avoid each other in the draw I hope you have a long summer. I genuinely mean that. Leinster needs Kildare and Meath.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/05/2018 19:53:35    2104285

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Super strides by Carlow, as for Kildare, just like Meath, I have no words.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 27/05/2018 20:04:26    2104290

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Look it's fantastic for Carlow as it was for longford. And despite all the banter I give to Kildare, I feel your pain. This is not good for either Kildare or Meath gaa in general. And is a huge set back to both counties. Again I am thrilled for Carlow. It's some achievement. But for Kildare, if we avoid each other in the draw I hope you have a long summer. I genuinely mean that. Leinster needs Kildare and Meath."
Im sorry but we are both finished for the year.

11jm11 (Kildare) - Posts: 365 - 27/05/2018 20:05:55    2104292

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Not at all surprised by this result as Carlow are really on the rise. I really admired the way they took the game to Dublin last year and have followed it up with promotion to Division 3. I expect them to reach the Leinster final now.

Kildare have a very talented squad of players but just not getting the most out them.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1874 - 27/05/2018 20:44:30    2104319

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Look it's fantastic for Carlow as it was for longford. And despite all the banter I give to Kildare, I feel your pain. This is not good for either Kildare or Meath gaa in general. And is a huge set back to both counties. Again I am thrilled for Carlow. It's some achievement. But for Kildare, if we avoid each other in the draw I hope you have a long summer. I genuinely mean that. Leinster needs Kildare and Meath."
Leinster needs Kildare and Meath no more than they need Dublin, Carlow, Wexford, Kilkenny, Wicklow, Laois, Offaly, Louth, Longford or Westmeath. Although you might think so, Kildare and Meath are by no means special.

Independent12 (Carlow) - Posts: 20 - 27/05/2018 21:19:07    2104341

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "Not at all surprised by this result as Carlow are really on the rise. I really admired the way they took the game to Dublin last year and have followed it up with promotion to Division 3. I expect them to reach the Leinster final now.

Kildare have a very talented squad of players but just not getting the most out them."
Are you dismissing Laois altogther?

Independent12 (Carlow) - Posts: 20 - 27/05/2018 21:20:12    2104343

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shocked and embarrassed about today as a Kildare supporter. Originally thought O'Neill was the right man for the job but im beginning to have serious doubts about that now, as another poster mentioned, hes not getting the most out of his squad.
Fair play to Carlow, take nothing away from them. Sad that they don't have Brendan Murphy around, potentially could really put it up to the Dubs with him in the team, disappointing decision from him and he may live to regret it. If he wasnt going to be around for the championship he should have notfified the manager at the start of the year and give Turlough O'Brien the time to construct a team for the championship without Murphy instead of surprising everyone with the decision a few weeks before the championship kicks off, bad form from him ?

stekhli (Dublin) - Posts: 3121 - 27/05/2018 21:29:09    2104351

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Replying To Independent12:  "Leinster needs Kildare and Meath no more than they need Dublin, Carlow, Wexford, Kilkenny, Wicklow, Laois, Offaly, Louth, Longford or Westmeath. Although you might think so, Kildare and Meath are by no means special."
Its arrogance like that which is Exactly why neutrals are so thrilled for Carlow and Longford.

salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 27/05/2018 21:34:10    2104356

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Didn't see that coming; well done Carlow

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 27/05/2018 21:38:05    2104360

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Congrats to Carlow, wonderful result and performance that's been brewing!

Kildare, I just don't know, there is more there then being delivered.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 27/05/2018 21:55:55    2104375

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I was at the game today and Carlow deserved every point of their win... they ran harder hit harder and most importantly fought harder... kildare were terrible but in saying that maybe its as good as they are for bunch of players with such talent they are lacking something..the killer instinct the passion for their place I don't know. changing manager will be no quick fix but I do think CON has done all he can. you can't blame him entirely but he has to shoulder some of it. I watched the carlow maor foirne today who admittedly did my head but but just before half time he turned to the carlow dug out pointed to his temple and said they have lost it lads referring obviously to kildare..he was right something serious is lacking. I think our year sadly will end on the 8th of June but the very best of luck to carlow...

Shineonlily (Kildare) - Posts: 26 - 27/05/2018 21:56:45    2104377

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Congrats to Carlow, wonderful result and performance that's been brewing!

Kildare, I just don't know, there is more there then being delivered."
There really isn't anything in either county. Club football is atrocious. Carlow kicked no wides today. That has never happened to a kildare team. Carlow have superior footballers and a better management team. I was cheering them on against my own county at the end because their attitude is brilliant.

What is more, Kildare teams are rotten from the seniors down to underage with a gutless cowardice. It's endemic and means all teams will fold whenever there is a physical or psychological barrier put up during any close game. No all Ireland at any level since the 60s. Our parents should be sued for making us grown up in such an awful football county!

Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1171 - 27/05/2018 22:32:52    2104414

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Look it's fantastic for Carlow as it was for longford. And despite all the banter I give to Kildare, I feel your pain. This is not good for either Kildare or Meath gaa in general. And is a huge set back to both counties. Again I am thrilled for Carlow. It's some achievement. But for Kildare, if we avoid each other in the draw I hope you have a long summer. I genuinely mean that. Leinster needs Kildare and Meath."
Leinster needs Laois Carlow and Longford.

salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 28/05/2018 00:19:02    2104472

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Replying To Kildare30:  "I am delighted for Carlow. Good on them. They have made steady progress and deserve all the plaudits on today's win.

We are in a sorry sorry state. This has been coming Manager has lost the dressing room, probably going on for a year or so now since Armagh match. Players don't deserve any credit either, they are at best average, moderately lazy with a sense they are better then they actually are. What they need is a motivator. Unfortunately they are bored senseless with a manager who drills them with stat after stat, decimal point included. Also bad in reading a game. Let them play football and enjoy it. let them have a few beers. I expect some players to walk today if manager does not step aside in the very near future."
I was at the final league game in New bridge between Kildare and Galway and so much of what you say here was there to be seen as plain as day. They played as if they were automatons, with no brain, just following a formula and with absolutely no individuality. Every "attack" they made was telegraphed and they had no idea whatsoever about how to penetrate a well organised defence. They hand passed the ball in an arc from one sideline to the other so many times that their play became a parody of itself. And no one at all willing to take on a shot unless they were within 20 yards of goal. I said all this here after the match and got shot down by some Kildare fans for being over critical. All I will say is they looked like a side that were completely over coached and the fault for that must lie with the manager

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 28/05/2018 04:19:57    2104491

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Congrats to Carlow on great result. They gave us our fill of it last summer and good to see them building on it. A coming side. As for kildare it really is true losing is a very bad habit and they just can't seem to shake it which is strange as they gave Dublin a good test in last year's Leinster final.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1799 - 28/05/2018 08:06:16    2104502

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