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Replying To mayotyroneman: "so...we have 12 teams left standing..i think they can be ranked in the following order; 1. Dublin 2. Galway both definite contenders for the all-ireland 3. Monaghan 4. Kerry 5. Tyrone these three definitely are an outside chance 6. Donegal could well be a dark horse 7. Roscommon 8. Kildare 9. Armagh can definitely rule these three out, but reaching a semi-final would be a massive achievement for any of them 10. Fermanagh 11. Cork absolutely no chance of getting an all-ireland and winning their r4 qualifiers next weekend to reach super 8 will be a massive achievement 12. Laois can forget about even winning r4 qualifier..opponents an easy passage to super 8's" You can also rule out Tyrone and other team outside of Kerry, Dublin and possibly Galway. Tyrone will not be within 10 points of Dublin and will struggle to make the semi finals. I'm still surprised people mention Tyrone as contenders for the All Ireland. They are becoming worse than the England soccer team lol. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 01/07/2018 14:28:50 2117192 Link
I mean.. imagine having monaghan ahead of kerry. incredible stuff.. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 01/07/2018 14:42:23 2117196 Link
need to learn to walk before you can run. Lets see a few perfrmances in croker first Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 01/07/2018 14:43:53 2117197 Link
Is there shred of evidence for placing Monaghan in an AI final? weird arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 01/07/2018 14:52:16 2117201 Link
Replying To mayotyroneman: "so...we have 12 teams left standing..i think they can be ranked in the following order; 1. Dublin 2. Galway both definite contenders for the all-ireland 3. Monaghan 4. Kerry 5. Tyrone these three definitely are an outside chance 6. Donegal could well be a dark horse 7. Roscommon 8. Kildare 9. Armagh can definitely rule these three out, but reaching a semi-final would be a massive achievement for any of them 10. Fermanagh 11. Cork absolutely no chance of getting an all-ireland and winning their r4 qualifiers next weekend to reach super 8 will be a massive achievement 12. Laois can forget about even winning r4 qualifier..opponents an easy passage to super 8's" I think the heat is starting to get to some fellas. Having Monaghan & Tyrone ahead of Donegal is dodgy enough but to have Monaghan ahead of Kerry is comedy gold. 1 Dublin 2 Kerry 3 Galway 4 Donegal 5 Monaghan 6 Tyrone 7 Roscommon 8 Kildare 9 Cork 10 Fermanagh 11 Armagh 12 Laois MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 01/07/2018 15:01:00 2117204 Link
Getting down to the business end now with only the big teams remaining, the round 4 draw will be interesting, I think for the All Ireland you can really only talk seriously about Dublin or Kerry, outside of that I'd have Galway,Tyrone,Monaghan as outside contenders, if we hadn't lost Paddy McBrearty we'd be outside contenders too but as it is we have done well to win Ulster and will gain great experience with this young team against the mighty Dubs in the super 8's. I've a feeling Kerry are going to push the Dubs to the limit this year, and if Kerry get sight of the finish line they won't stutter as has happened others, but I think Sam will be staying in the capital if the Dubs still have the hunger. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2756 - 01/07/2018 15:04:34 2117206 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "Getting down to the business end now with only the big teams remaining, the round 4 draw will be interesting, I think for the All Ireland you can really only talk seriously about Dublin or Kerry, outside of that I'd have Galway,Tyrone,Monaghan as outside contenders, if we hadn't lost Paddy McBrearty we'd be outside contenders too but as it is we have done well to win Ulster and will gain great experience with this young team against the mighty Dubs in the super 8's. I've a feeling Kerry are going to push the Dubs to the limit this year, and if Kerry get sight of the finish line they won't stutter as has happened others, but I think Sam will be staying in the capital if the Dubs still have the hunger." Yep. Agree with this. We are improving but no way ahead of Kerry unless you base all perspective on this year's league and championship only. If you take into account last few yrs Kerry main challenger to the Dubs. But of course that yardstick not reliable also. If by any stretch we beat Kerry I might review my take on where things are. kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1947 - 01/07/2018 18:09:35 2117301 Link
That ranking of the final 12 from a Tyrone man looks to be a wind up to stir up a bit of discussion. Noone in their right minds would be placing us above Kerry. The 4 provincial winners should be rightly ranked as the top 4 as it stands. I would fancy our chances against Donegal but we balls up the opportunity to test ourselves there, so that is on us. And Galway would be a novel meeting if we were to get the chance to meet. But for me it's Dublin and Kerry, with Galway and Donegal coming next. The likes of ourselves or Tyrone can't possibly be ranked any higher on current form. We need to make the super 8s first and foremost, and then perform at that stage. patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 01/07/2018 19:50:30 2117352 Link
Seriously who posts this rubbish. We weren't good enough to.beat a Ltd fermanagh side who Donegal dealt with easily. We have had two v easy draws but nothing can be read into either match. Come back to this thread if we win next weekend which is a big if and if we get through super 8s which is a giant if. Agree with posters Kerry or Galway only to challenge Dublin. seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1802 - 01/07/2018 20:26:28 2117375 Link
Replying To MuckrossHead: "I think the heat is starting to get to some fellas. Having Monaghan & Tyrone ahead of Donegal is dodgy enough but to have Monaghan ahead of Kerry is comedy gold. 1 Dublin 2 Kerry 3 Galway 4 Donegal 5 Monaghan 6 Tyrone 7 Roscommon 8 Kildare 9 Cork 10 Fermanagh 11 Armagh 12 Laois" so what have kerry actually done to prove their worth at a higher ranking...monaghan had a way better league, and to be honest the quality of opposition in munster has been pathetic...kerry yet to prove themselves and while little between them and monaghan, monaghan edge the third ranked team at the moment mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 01/07/2018 22:49:11 2117439 Link
can't agree that kerry are the only serious challengers to dublin...as i said i think they are outsiders, and really galway and dublin are CURRENTLY the only contenders for an all-ireland but lets see what happens..kerry very capable of getting to an all-ireland semi-final but i fear their lack of experience may well be found out then if not sooner mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 01/07/2018 22:53:00 2117443 Link
How do I report this thread as an abuse of Monaghan... Someone is seriously messing by posting this stuff.. Farney (Monaghan) - Posts: 801 - 01/07/2018 23:04:38 2117446 Link
It's got to be Donegal for Sam, with the scores they have been running up in Ulster. Bonnar must be the best manager around at the moment. Monaghan likely to be their biggest danger. neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 01/07/2018 23:54:42 2117461 Link
Replying To mayotyroneman: "so what have kerry actually done to prove their worth at a higher ranking...monaghan had a way better league, and to be honest the quality of opposition in munster has been pathetic...kerry yet to prove themselves and while little between them and monaghan, monaghan edge the third ranked team at the moment" Go to Boylesports, Kerry are 5/2 Monaghan are 28/1. Enough said. MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 02/07/2018 07:53:54 2117482 Link
Sure we just looking forward to another day out versus Laois .... greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 02/07/2018 08:54:31 2117502 Link
Replying To greysoil: "Sure we just looking forward to another day out versus Laois ...." So we get "another" Div 4 team ... all be it a much better one that the previous two. To say we are getting luck is an understatement. However ...and this is the thing about Mon at present ... we could lose to Laois. We shouldn't ... but we could. However if we do get into Super 8 ... a group of Kildare / Fermanagh , Galway and Kerry (in Clones) is very doable . Certainly better than Dublin, Donegal and Tyrone. On current form ... we are nowhere near winning an All Ireland .... but we could make a semi ... if we beat Laois! Mon79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 81 - 02/07/2018 10:29:02 2117561 Link
Replying To Mon79: "So we get "another" Div 4 team ... all be it a much better one that the previous two. To say we are getting luck is an understatement. However ...and this is the thing about Mon at present ... we could lose to Laois. We shouldn't ... but we could. However if we do get into Super 8 ... a group of Kildare / Fermanagh , Galway and Kerry (in Clones) is very doable . Certainly better than Dublin, Donegal and Tyrone. On current form ... we are nowhere near winning an All Ireland .... but we could make a semi ... if we beat Laois!" I totally agree with this. This is definitely the group we would have preferred...... if we beat laois of course. Would have to fancy our chances of coming out of that group and into a semi final. However I don't believe we are nearly good enough to win an Ireland! yaladya (Monaghan) - Posts: 27 - 02/07/2018 10:51:01 2117568 Link
Well a trip to the iconic Clones in mid July will certainly be an education for our kids in more ways than 1..... If the group ends up being ourselves, Galway, Monaghan & Kildare it would be really even and no team winning all their matches. If Galway repeat the dose they dished out in Tralee in the first game then having to win in Clones to survive would be an extremely daunting task for the young kids but I have to say looking forward to 3 close competitive matches!!!! 37thHeaven (Kerry) - Posts: 102 - 02/07/2018 10:57:30 2117576 Link
Replying To 37thHeaven: "Well a trip to the iconic Clones in mid July will certainly be an education for our kids in more ways than 1..... If the group ends up being ourselves, Galway, Monaghan & Kildare it would be really even and no team winning all their matches. If Galway repeat the dose they dished out in Tralee in the first game then having to win in Clones to survive would be an extremely daunting task for the young kids but I have to say looking forward to 3 close competitive matches!!!!" Similar to us. Lose to ye and we are under serious pressure to win in Brewster/Newbridge. Laois/Monaghan in Salthill on the b/h wend would be a dead rubber if we lose our first two games. Not just because we won the province but a tad disappointed that the provincial champions are not playing off last and have their home game first as a reward for winning the province. Should be a carrot of winning your province in addition to carrot of directly into Super 8. Anyway if we are good enough we are good enough and don't mind me as only miffed because we came through the toughest province this year in terms of beating mid to top range teams (Mayo and Ros). What will be will be and as referenced by an earlier poster i would see group 1 relatively even particularly if Monaghan come through. kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1947 - 02/07/2018 12:03:25 2117633 Link
I strongly fancy Monaghan to come through against Laois and they will cause trouble for the teams in their Super 8 group. It would be no certainty that Kerry would go to Clones and beat Monaghan, in fact I think it would be a 50/50 game. Everything will become a bit clearer after the round 4 qualifiers next weekend. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 02/07/2018 12:52:19 2117662 Link