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Replying To Miami305: "Wow... this forum is very tough place unless you have an opinion everyone agrees with. Firstly, this has nothing to do with Galway, so get past the county name beside my name. There is no bigger Clare supporter than I, (who isn't from Clare.) So I am losing the run of myself because I am stating why I don't agree with the faith in this 2013 All-Ireland winning Clare team comes from year after year? Clare have not been in Croke Park since September 2013. So we sit here 5 years later and that's why I question the faith in them. The Cork team of 13 (probably) only got past Dublin in the semi final because of a sending off of R O'Dwyer and followed up their 13 AI appearance with a 10 point loss to Tipp in '14 and a 12 point loss to Galway in '15 and another 9 point Munster loss to Tipp in 16 and went out to Wexford eventually. What part of those 3 seasons points to it being not being a poor enough cork team by high cork standards? Poster who addressed Galways munster record and semi final record - I completely agreed with. So please get away from this being about anti any county because its not and I've been at every AI Clare have been in since 95 supporting them." The difference is no one agrees with you. LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2479 - 15/06/2018 02:05:31 2111702 Link
Replying To PeggyShippen: "Yeah I was at that All Ireland final in 95. It was a real bonus to be there. The real win that year was the Munster final which my Dad took me to. The pressure valve in Clare was finally released. Anthony Daly says the same.There was no bandwagoners from Clare there in Thurles.Must have been outnumbered 4 to 1 by Limerick. The defeat the year before dampened all expectation but Clare hurled up a storm and Limerick were poor..though Quigley had a few chances at goal." 1993 Munster final followed by the 1994 Munster final had Clare supporters very down trodden by the Munster final of 1995. LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2479 - 15/06/2018 02:08:27 2111703 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "The difference is no one agrees with you." You make some really great points there to counter act my reasoned facts and opinion I just stated.... oh wait Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 15/06/2018 10:57:18 2111749 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "I dont care about your background - you are factually wrong. 2013 will go down as one of the most exciting and high quality hurling championships ever. The championship were the pack caught the elite. KK, Tipp and Cork were not up to much in the mid to late 90s - so were the 1995, 1996, 1997 and 1998 Championships "handy" all Irelands? Arguably the most handy All Irelands if you want to argue this point were won by KK from 2006 to 2012 as really only Tipp challenged them. In 2013 from the semis on any team could have won that All Ireland so Clares win was more impressive." So please explain to me why this team has not won a match in Munster until only last season, let alone get back to croke park for a semi final or final? Please state what facts I have stated that are wrong seeing as I am "factually wrong?" If we disagree, great, no problem. Wouldn't it be boring if we all thought the same things. But don't get opinions mixed up with facts. And if you can explain why Cork and Clare faltered so badly in the presiding 3 seasons following the 2013 final then I am all ears. "In 2013 from the semis on any team could have won that All Ireland so Clares win was more impressive" I respect this view point and see where you are coming from (not just going to dismiss everything you say as you do with me) but my point comes in the fact of both teams fortunes in the immediate 3 seasons (more than a long enough sample size) to reflect perhaps they weren't as good as we thought and both appeared in a final opportunistically as opposed to long term quality. Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 15/06/2018 11:04:39 2111756 Link
This thread has been hijacked a bit by historical games! Looking forward to the Clare Limerick game at the weekend. It's essentially a semi final in Ennis. Should be a serious atmosphere. On current form Limerick look unbeatable in Munster but that may all go out the window on Sunday. It would be a big blow for Limerick if they failed to reach the final after the 3 performances to date. Personally I think they will have too much for Clare and win by 5/6 points. Could quite possibly be the match of the cship to date. Clare depsite beating Tipp need to find more scoring forwards outside of Conlan and Duggan frees and need to get more from Galvin, McGrath and particualrly Kelly. I'd be surprised if Podge doesnt start in replace of O'Donnell. Clare have actually scored well but I think Limerick have a far greater spread of scorers. Should be a cracker. The other game is impossible to predict. Waterford will almost defintely abandon the sweeper completely and go all out attack so it could be any kind of a result. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 15/06/2018 11:22:33 2111772 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "This thread has been hijacked a bit by historical games! Looking forward to the Clare Limerick game at the weekend. It's essentially a semi final in Ennis. Should be a serious atmosphere. On current form Limerick look unbeatable in Munster but that may all go out the window on Sunday. It would be a big blow for Limerick if they failed to reach the final after the 3 performances to date. Personally I think they will have too much for Clare and win by 5/6 points. Could quite possibly be the match of the cship to date. Clare depsite beating Tipp need to find more scoring forwards outside of Conlan and Duggan frees and need to get more from Galvin, McGrath and particualrly Kelly. I'd be surprised if Podge doesnt start in replace of O'Donnell. Clare have actually scored well but I think Limerick have a far greater spread of scorers. Should be a cracker. The other game is impossible to predict. Waterford will almost defintely abandon the sweeper completely and go all out attack so it could be any kind of a result." Yes, we certainly digressed a bit alright! I agree re the Clare forwards scoring more. Conor McGrath was whipped off in first half injury time, seemed like a strange time when half time was due. I hope he can rediscover his previous form. Podge was fantastic when he came on, his smart use of the ball, energy and work rate were great, not to mention the equalising score over his shoulder. I loved the two scores that conlon and duggan got at the end right on the sideline, both men created the bit of space and separation they needed to get the shot away by pushing into their men. Also the pick up and offload by conlon that led to the goal was a big time move, great skill and strength in the same instance. I like you, find it very hard to call, but would go for Limerick if I had to back someone, although I think it will be more like a 1 score game rather than 5/6 points. Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 15/06/2018 11:43:02 2111794 Link
Well I've already stated 3 weeks ago a Cork v Clare 2018 MHC Final. Yes Clare v Limerick will be a tight match but it's the Banner for me! Waterford have nothing to play for but I'd expect them to have a right cut at Cork and I'd say it will be a high scoring game but the Rebels should do enough to win. katser (Galway) - Posts: 2197 - 16/06/2018 13:54:35 2112093 Link
just looked at ciaran careys point in 1996 again,what a score.look at the crowd in the gaelic grounds.what has happened to the crowds at gaa matches from then? perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 16/06/2018 17:00:41 2112145 Link
Replying To perfect10: "just looked at ciaran careys point in 1996 again,what a score.look at the crowd in the gaelic grounds.what has happened to the crowds at gaa matches from then?" I think the back door kinda took the crowds out of the mix. I was at that game and it was stifling on the terrace. Must have been unreal out on the pitch!! Seriously packed on a very hot day..it was do or die stuff. Win and your in a munster final, lose and that's it for another year. Now it's watch it on TV and wait for the next game. I miss those days. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 16/06/2018 17:59:35 2112161 Link
Clare missing serious firepower in Aaron Shanagher, Aaron Cunningham, Cathal O'Connell, Bobby Duggan and Cathal McInerney and this will come back to haunt them especially with Conor McGrath's continued bad form stekhli (Dublin) - Posts: 3121 - 16/06/2018 20:24:12 2112175 Link
Replying To stekhli: "Clare missing serious firepower in Aaron Shanagher, Aaron Cunningham, Cathal O'Connell, Bobby Duggan and Cathal McInerney and this will come back to haunt them especially with Conor McGrath's continued bad form" It's sad to see the decline of McGrath. He was one of the best forwards in the country from around 2010/2011 - 2015/2016. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 17/06/2018 01:49:56 2112212 Link
Replying To stekhli: "Clare missing serious firepower in Aaron Shanagher, Aaron Cunningham, Cathal O'Connell, Bobby Duggan and Cathal McInerney and this will come back to haunt them especially with Conor McGrath's continued bad form" The 2 Aarons would be only ones that would be in contention to start and that come close to be called 'serious' ar this level. blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 17/06/2018 02:38:48 2112213 Link
David Reidy just got the line there for absolutely nothing. Is it time for video technology the referees and their team are getting too many decisions wrong? clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 17/06/2018 14:38:22 2112253 Link
Dreadful stuff out of Limerick.... It's like we're afraid to hurl. Clare are good but we're shocking. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 17/06/2018 15:32:47 2112264 Link
Very flat from limerick today never got going. Clare on the other hand have been excellent, Tony Kelly and his forwards will run amok in Croker with The wide open spaces they've pace to burn up front. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 17/06/2018 15:33:25 2112265 Link
Wooohoooo Best not write us off. We are not easily beaten at home and I felt Limerick underestimated us today. Justice was done. Poor David Reidy got sent off because of simulation from Diarmuid Byrnes. Hang your head in shame Byrnes. I presume it will be overturned and he can play Munster final. LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2479 - 17/06/2018 15:56:23 2112278 Link
Glory Glory Clare as they blow Limerick completely out of the water! As I said it's better they are getting and serious All Ireland contenders! Next up the 2018 MHC title! katser (Galway) - Posts: 2197 - 17/06/2018 16:13:42 2112286 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "Wooohoooo Best not write us off. We are not easily beaten at home and I felt Limerick underestimated us today. Justice was done. Poor David Reidy got sent off because of simulation from Diarmuid Byrnes. Hang your head in shame Byrnes. I presume it will be overturned and he can play Munster final." Has to be overturned. Nothing surprising about today's result in my opinion -- except perhaps the margin PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 17/06/2018 16:27:16 2112291 Link
Great Clare display but Limerick was shocking. Clare are very economical. Limerick Management were terrible. They played into Clare's hands letting them go short with puck outs. And to start Dowling and leave Gillane off was a joke. Flanagan gets 5 from play at full forward against Cork and he's moved to accommodate Dowling.. Richie McCarty was good and Has to start full back now. Final Gripe. Please improve the Reffing standards. This guy today was way out of his depth. He let's trips go and missed a tonne of stuff. And he was shocking for Clare and Limerick. Not good enough. PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 17/06/2018 16:55:17 2112300 Link
Well done Clare,but my God our sideline we're asleep,2013 again cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 17/06/2018 17:51:40 2112318 Link