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RTE Coverage - Lack Of Football

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Replying To Gleebo:  "It just seems to be unfortunate that the early Ulster games are up against very attractive fixtures in the other codes and provinces this year; RTE Sport have money problems and have to prioritise in the event of a clash.

Hard to believe the scant resources that BBC NI allocates to GAA though, given that gaelic games a must be one of the most popular sporting persuits up there. Sounds like a campaign to get them to up their game is needed."
Have RTÉ got the rights to the World Cup and if so how much did that cost them? I mean the World Cup games don't get interesting until the knockout stages but they probably had to buy the lot as s package .

It just goes to show that the provincial system isn't fit for purpose anymore and needs to be changed from Munster Connacht Ulster and Leinster to north south east and west divisions each with equal amounts of teams or else just go for 8 groups of 4 teams using the league for seeding.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 06/05/2018 11:48:57    2096884

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Really pity Newyork leitrim game not showing was always going to be close

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 06/05/2018 20:51:12    2096942

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Replying To Gleebo:  "It just seems to be unfortunate that the early Ulster games are up against very attractive fixtures in the other codes and provinces this year; RTE Sport have money problems and have to prioritise in the event of a clash.

Hard to believe the scant resources that BBC NI allocates to GAA though, given that gaelic games a must be one of the most popular sporting persuits up there. Sounds like a campaign to get them to up their game is needed."
I wouldn't be surprised at all if a certain Mr Murdock knocked on the front door of Montrose sooner rather than later to offer RTE a way out of their financial woe's.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 06/05/2018 22:01:01    2096960

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3 mins coverage of 2 matches combined at the end of the programme. And no analysis shows the attitude in rte to the lesser counties once again.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 06/05/2018 22:27:47    2096971

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I wouldn't be surprised at all if a certain Mr Murdock knocked on the front door of Montrose sooner rather than later to offer RTE a way out of their financial woe's.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 1727 - 06/05/2018 22:01:01
I will be head of RTE before Sky buy out RTE.
No way would he do it

DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 06/05/2018 22:34:18    2096973

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You should thank your lucky stars that RTE travel 3000+ miles to show clips from the two football matches that involve four teams that are all in the bottom 12 counties in the All Ireland Championship. Yet Rte can't cover any of the hurling in the Joe McDonagh Cup where all six teams involve are in the top 16 counties in the country and have loads of skill to showcase.

Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 346 - 06/05/2018 22:37:58    2096974

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You expect the National Broadcaster to support the National games??? Are you mad??

Remember we are no longer the peoples game!!!!

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 07/05/2018 08:34:29    2096998

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Replying To ROS1:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "This is all part of a long term aim from rte and in association with the heads at croke park that only a top handful of counties and another handful of media favourites are going to be shown...
ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1059 - 04/05/2018 16:39:34 2096691


Really? Where is your evidence for this? Or is just a figment of your imagination?"
Look at the coverage the leagues and championship over the last few years. Plenty of evidence there or listen to the build up to either competition or listen to the stated aim of the gaa president re secondary competitions etc."
It is true that often when pundits are 'analysing' the three minute 'highlights' of say a Wexford v Carlow football match, it will just be a load of old patronising guff and little substantial insight. You get said loser will be disappointed, perhaps we need a B championship. Said winner are making real progress. And Brendan Murphy is as good a player as you would get anywhere. End of analysis.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 07/05/2018 08:51:00    2096999

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Have RTÉ got the rights to the World Cup and if so how much did that cost them? I mean the World Cup games don't get interesting until the knockout stages but they probably had to buy the lot as s package .

It just goes to show that the provincial system isn't fit for purpose anymore and needs to be changed from Munster Connacht Ulster and Leinster to north south east and west divisions each with equal amounts of teams or else just go for 8 groups of 4 teams using the league for seeding."
Why does that show the Provincial championships aren't fit for purpose?

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 07/05/2018 08:51:19    2097000

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Replying To DonaldDuck:  "I wouldn't be surprised at all if a certain Mr Murdock knocked on the front door of Montrose sooner rather than later to offer RTE a way out of their financial woe's.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 1727 - 06/05/2018 22:01:01
I will be head of RTE before Sky buy out RTE.
No way would he do it"
For years it was said that Aer Lingus wouldn't/couldn't be sold to a foreign investor and look what happened with no damage done, and all happy.
According to Ms Forbes RTE are in serious financial trouble, one of the problems that RTE has is that they are an entertainment broadcaster only, not providing a broadband service is a big part of their problem, among others.
Your right, RTE won't be sold off in it's entirety to sky, but they could become a financial shareholder, with conditions attached, something like Ryan Air / Aer Lingus, my gut feeling tells me they're will be changes made sooner rather than later.
Over the past year or two other broadcasters restructured / merged in such a way so that they could provide a broadband service.

When the GAA sold off some games to SKY, perhaps there was a long term vision there.??

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 07/05/2018 09:23:23    2097008

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Have RTÉ got the rights to the World Cup and if so how much did that cost them? I mean the World Cup games don't get interesting until the knockout stages but they probably had to buy the lot as s package .

It just goes to show that the provincial system isn't fit for purpose anymore and needs to be changed from Munster Connacht Ulster and Leinster to north south east and west divisions each with equal amounts of teams or else just go for 8 groups of 4 teams using the league for seeding."
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+much+did+RTE+spend+on+World+Cup+rights

The World Cup is simply far too big a sporting event not to purchase rights for, even if Ireland didn't qualify (as on most occasions).

I don't really see the benefit of changing the provincial structures along the lines that you're suggesting, unless it's purely to even out the number of games played per province. In terms of quality and competitiveness, I'm sceptical as to how much value is added by adding, say, Longford to a Western Conference or Wexford to a Southern one, chances are that those championships will remain duopolies for the most part.

Going with the mythical "Champions League" format will produce a lot of dead rubber games and will also rob small counties of their only realistic opportunity of silverware in a lot of cases.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 07/05/2018 09:49:05    2097013

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Replying To bennybunny:  "
Replying To ROS1:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "This is all part of a long term aim from rte and in association with the heads at croke park that only a top handful of counties and another handful of media favourites are going to be shown...
ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1059 - 04/05/2018 16:39:34 2096691


Really? Where is your evidence for this? Or is just a figment of your imagination?"
Look at the coverage the leagues and championship over the last few years. Plenty of evidence there or listen to the build up to either competition or listen to the stated aim of the gaa president re secondary competitions etc."
It is true that often when pundits are 'analysing' the three minute 'highlights' of say a Wexford v Carlow football match, it will just be a load of old patronising guff and little substantial insight. You get said loser will be disappointed, perhaps we need a B championship. Said winner are making real progress. And Brendan Murphy is as good a player as you would get anywhere. End of analysis."]Very true last night prime example. Talked about new York future in the championship and didn't mention the other 3 counties that played or the actual match. It reminds me when I seen a connacht championship preview a few years ago and the supposed reporter for the province went on about how a roscommon player was roscommon best player winning division 3 which was some achievement considering he had retired the previous October

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 07/05/2018 10:09:35    2097020

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The "preview" last night was a complete waste of time if you are from most of the counties in Leinster and Munster for football championship.

leftandwide (Meath) - Posts: 91 - 07/05/2018 11:46:03    2097044

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Replying To ROS1:  "Really pity Newyork leitrim game not showing was always going to be close"
I totally agree with you, personally I like to see close matches, rather than a top team hammer some minnow. Maybe I am biased but the Donegal v Cavan and Tyrone v Monaghan games will certainly be close, maybe not free flowing football but enjoyable all the same. To me it looks like RTE have dropped their interest in the provincial championship games in favour of showing the Super 8 games. Is this the beginning of the end of the provincial championships? It will be interesting to see if supporters still want to go to these games.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 07/05/2018 11:59:16    2097055

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Replying To Whammo86:  "Why does that show the Provincial championships aren't fit for purpose?"
Well the hurling crowd got rid of the provincial system and RTÉ are showing a load of hurling matches, the football guys have kept the provincials system and RTÉ are showing about 3 games.

Imo it's time to change things up big time.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 07/05/2018 13:14:40    2097075

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It was indeed at total waste of television space and some of the analysis especially with the football was dreadful. Why could the not cut out the 'analysis /preview' and show some of the two matches. All the want now is to televise the top 8- money is all CP are interested in.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 07/05/2018 14:27:06    2097084

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Well the hurling crowd got rid of the provincial system and RTÉ are showing a load of hurling matches, the football guys have kept the provincials system and RTÉ are showing about 3 games.

Imo it's time to change things up big time.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 6958 - 07/05/2018 13:14:40
Eh?
Hurling has kept the provincial system... just adopted a different format within the 2 provincial championships that they run

DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 07/05/2018 15:37:19    2097098

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Replying To DonaldDuck:  "Well the hurling crowd got rid of the provincial system and RTÉ are showing a load of hurling matches, the football guys have kept the provincials system and RTÉ are showing about 3 games.

Imo it's time to change things up big time.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 6958 - 07/05/2018 13:14:40
Eh?
Hurling has kept the provincial system... just adopted a different format within the 2 provincial championships that they run"
That's true but they got rid of the Connacht and Ulster championships, maybe all we need to do in the football is to go to two provinces as well although would it work without making it a tiered championship like the hurling!

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 07/05/2018 15:49:39    2097102

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RTE website GAA coverage has a lot of negative stories. "Leinster is a joke" says Tomás O Sé, Super 8 will not work- Seán Cavanagh are two at the moment. It would be hard to imagine them saying same about rugby or soccer competitions. Give the games to TG4- they are much much better imho.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 07/05/2018 20:33:32    2097150

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Galway hurlers were entered into the Leinster championship because they had no opposition in Connacht, is it beyond time that Dublin footballers was entered into another province for the championship? RTE God help us, that preview show that was on last night AFTER 2 teams were already knocked out from a provincial championship , should have been on last week, anyway it was rubbish, they eliminated nearly every hurling and football county just to tell us the same top table won't change. For the life of me I can't see why any TV station is running around trying to get the rights to broadcast lob sided games, no disrespect to any team but I would rather watch New York v Leitrim or London v Sligo rather than watch Dublin thrash any Leinster county, take a look at the entire fixture list and pick out matches where both sides are fairly even, doesn't matter if they are Division 4 teams or Division 1 teams and let us enjoy watching a tough game

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 07/05/2018 22:35:47    2097169

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