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As everyone knows this year we will have the super 8s, to replace the traditional knockout stage of the All Ireland quarter finals.
At a time when clubs are crying out for a more condensed county calendar year an additional 2 games per county at that stage has been introduced!!??... Why would the G.A.A have introduced this know?
I like most,will admit that at moment the National Leagues are the best intercounty competition at the moment, teams of equal standard competing each week,close games,makes great viewing for all.
Some argue that the super 8s means this will allow top teams to play at latter stages of championship,sure this already happens most years at semis,plus in the league every year,League and Championship should be different,whole appeal of championship football is knockout,on the given day,now we have a league within championship.
In my opinion there are many downsides to the new Super 8 split
- for first time a team could lose two championship matches and become All Ireland champs(are they really champs?)
- if team loses first two group games left with dead rubber games,nothing to play(poor atmosphere)
- reduces chances of lesser counties making a breakthrough run to the semis(like Tipperary)
- G.A.A have announced wont be extra Televised games,so no doubt the early rounds of championship wont be televised,so the "lesser counties" will get even less exposure as TV focuses on Super 8s
- Extra cost for families to follow their county with two additional games.
There is no doubt the additional money in the coffers was huge motivational factor in this new formatting for the G.A.A,which will suit the stronger counties for definite.
Also I think the decision to make under 17s seperate of senior provincial games has detracted greatly,a huge appeal for minor players was playing in front of huge crowds before senior county fixtures,how many will go to Under 17 single games!!!
Is there a backdoor now in the under 17 championship now?
macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1098 - 24/04/2018 21:34:59
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+ Dublin get 500 games at home just to mention. Sorry helping a few lads out with obsessional issues.
All for the S8's myself, the Championship has always had aspirational tiers to aspire to, this is just another, evolution not revolution in my opinion.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 24/04/2018 22:18:24
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As everyone knows this year we will have the super 8s, to replace the traditional knockout stage of the All Ireland quarter finals.
At a time when clubs are crying out for a more condensed county calendar year an additional 2 games per county at that stage has been introduced!!??... Why would the G.A.A have introduced this know?
I like most,will admit that at moment the National Leagues are the best intercounty competition at the moment, teams of equal standard competing each week,close games,makes great viewing for all.
Some argue that the super 8s means this will allow top teams to play at latter stages of championship,sure this already happens most years at semis,plus in the league every year,League and Championship should be different,whole appeal of championship football is knockout,on the given day,now we have a league within championship.
In my opinion there are many downsides to the new Super 8 split
- for first time a team could lose two championship matches and become All Ireland champs(are they really champs?)
- if team loses first two group games left with dead rubber games,nothing to play(poor atmosphere)
- reduces chances of lesser counties making a breakthrough run to the semis(like Tipperary)
- G.A.A have announced wont be extra Televised games,so no doubt the early rounds of championship wont be televised,so the "lesser counties" will get even less exposure as TV focuses on Super 8s
- Extra cost for families to follow their county with two additional games.
There is no doubt the additional money in the coffers was huge motivational factor in this new formatting for the G.A.A,which will suit the stronger counties for definite.
Also I think the decision to make under 17s seperate of senior provincial games has detracted greatly,a huge appeal for minor players was playing in front of huge crowds before senior county fixtures,how many will go to Under 17 single games!!!
Is there a backdoor now in the under 17 championship now?
macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 799 - 24/04/2018 21:34:59Doesnt every county in minor football get at least 2 games?
Isnt the inter county championship more condensed than previous years so more games but the championships finish 2/3 weeks earlier. thats plenty more times for clubs is it not?
Yes it already happens to an extent in the league with so called top sides playing each other but league isnt championship.
Of course a county who loses 2 matches and wins sam are still champions.
If real madrid win the champions league having lost 2 games and won it beating Liverpool on penalties and it was Liverpool having got to final without losing would you say real madrid wouldnt be champions.
the current system isnt right and needed changing. too much was given away to winners of provincial championships which unfairly affected some provinces over others. the super 8s evens that up.
there may be some dead rubbers but there will not be loads of them. you neednt get so wound up by the possibility that there may be 1 or 2 dead rubber games out of the dozens of games that will be played.
DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 24/04/2018 22:32:31
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Replying To macca999: "As everyone knows this year we will have the super 8s, to replace the traditional knockout stage of the All Ireland quarter finals.
At a time when clubs are crying out for a more condensed county calendar year an additional 2 games per county at that stage has been introduced!!??... Why would the G.A.A have introduced this know?
I like most,will admit that at moment the National Leagues are the best intercounty competition at the moment, teams of equal standard competing each week,close games,makes great viewing for all.
Some argue that the super 8s means this will allow top teams to play at latter stages of championship,sure this already happens most years at semis,plus in the league every year,League and Championship should be different,whole appeal of championship football is knockout,on the given day,now we have a league within championship.
In my opinion there are many downsides to the new Super 8 split
- for first time a team could lose two championship matches and become All Ireland champs(are they really champs?)
- if team loses first two group games left with dead rubber games,nothing to play(poor atmosphere)
- reduces chances of lesser counties making a breakthrough run to the semis(like Tipperary)
- G.A.A have announced wont be extra Televised games,so no doubt the early rounds of championship wont be televised,so the "lesser counties" will get even less exposure as TV focuses on Super 8s
- Extra cost for families to follow their county with two additional games.
There is no doubt the additional money in the coffers was huge motivational factor in this new formatting for the G.A.A,which will suit the stronger counties for definite.
Also I think the decision to make under 17s seperate of senior provincial games has detracted greatly,a huge appeal for minor players was playing in front of huge crowds before senior county fixtures,how many will go to Under 17 single games!!!
Is there a backdoor now in the under 17 championship now?" I don't know do teams actually take the league as seriously as the championship so I my self wouldn't be calling it the better competition, I mean we won the league final last year and there wasn't a word from us about it but if we won the championship well we'd enjoy it more.
I agree with you on the U17s it shouldn't have been changed from U18.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 24/04/2018 22:43:35
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It's actually possible to win the All Ireland under the new format having lost 3 games.
the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 25/04/2018 12:39:38
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we need romance we need to dream, us so called weaker counties need those one off winner takes all chances otherwise whats the point
looked we've banged thus drum to death and the elite will just get more so until there are 4 or 5 counties at the top and the rest miles behind and then what kind of nonsense structure will we have then
I for one are very worried about where we are headed, to dare to dream is no more
why is the english FA cup still so special, because they let the minnows dream, the odd upset here or there makes it ....the journey is what its all about ..except for GAA hierarchy as the coffers is what its about for them
AnCeisCLG (Fermanagh) - Posts: 38 - 25/04/2018 12:42:25
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Replying To the_walls: "It's actually possible to win the All Ireland under the new format having lost 3 games." This will not happen in a million years though.
The only tactical change of format for a team who faces a long provincial is to throw their first game, or to at least not give it 100% if they want to have prospects further down the line.
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 25/04/2018 13:52:53
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Replying To Donegalman: "This will not happen in a million years though.
The only tactical change of format for a team who faces a long provincial is to throw their first game, or to at least not give it 100% if they want to have prospects further down the line." It's more than possible Donegalman.
Let's say the following happens this year. .
Mayo lose to Galway but make the super 8s. (Pretty much same run as last yr).
Dublin win Leinster and Galway win Connaught and are met by Mayo and Donegal in super 8s.
Then Mayo lose to Galway again and Dublin but hammer Donegal (all have happened in recent years), Dublin hammer Galway and Donegal and Donegal narrowly beat Galway.
That scenario would see Mayo make the semi final having lost 3 games.
And it's still not beyond the realms of possibility that they kick on and win Sam from there.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 25/04/2018 14:05:05
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Replying To AnCeisCLG: "we need romance we need to dream, us so called weaker counties need those one off winner takes all chances otherwise whats the point
looked we've banged thus drum to death and the elite will just get more so until there are 4 or 5 counties at the top and the rest miles behind and then what kind of nonsense structure will we have then
I for one are very worried about where we are headed, to dare to dream is no more
why is the english FA cup still so special, because they let the minnows dream, the odd upset here or there makes it ....the journey is what its all about ..except for GAA hierarchy as the coffers is what its about for them" The English FA cup died as a special competition in 2000 when the Manchester United, the holders, didn't compete in the competition at the behest of the FA, the organisers of the competition.
As for the super 8s. In 2015 had the Super 8s have been in place, Fermanagh would have been in a group with Kildare, Tyrone and Galway.
They'd have gotten 3 games at the height of the season and would have had a chance of getting out of that group.
Whilst it is harder for minnows on average to reach the semis, it isn't that much harder. The teams are still only playing 3 games, there's plenty of opportunity for upsets in that short series of games.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 25/04/2018 19:50:01
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Replying To DonaldDuck: "As everyone knows this year we will have the super 8s, to replace the traditional knockout stage of the All Ireland quarter finals.
At a time when clubs are crying out for a more condensed county calendar year an additional 2 games per county at that stage has been introduced!!??... Why would the G.A.A have introduced this know?
I like most,will admit that at moment the National Leagues are the best intercounty competition at the moment, teams of equal standard competing each week,close games,makes great viewing for all.
Some argue that the super 8s means this will allow top teams to play at latter stages of championship,sure this already happens most years at semis,plus in the league every year,League and Championship should be different,whole appeal of championship football is knockout,on the given day,now we have a league within championship.
In my opinion there are many downsides to the new Super 8 split
- for first time a team could lose two championship matches and become All Ireland champs(are they really champs?)
- if team loses first two group games left with dead rubber games,nothing to play(poor atmosphere)
- reduces chances of lesser counties making a breakthrough run to the semis(like Tipperary)
- G.A.A have announced wont be extra Televised games,so no doubt the early rounds of championship wont be televised,so the "lesser counties" will get even less exposure as TV focuses on Super 8s
- Extra cost for families to follow their county with two additional games.
There is no doubt the additional money in the coffers was huge motivational factor in this new formatting for the G.A.A,which will suit the stronger counties for definite.
Also I think the decision to make under 17s seperate of senior provincial games has detracted greatly,a huge appeal for minor players was playing in front of huge crowds before senior county fixtures,how many will go to Under 17 single games!!!
Is there a backdoor now in the under 17 championship now?
macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 799 - 24/04/2018 21:34:59Doesnt every county in minor football get at least 2 games?
Isnt the inter county championship more condensed than previous years so more games but the championships finish 2/3 weeks earlier. thats plenty more times for clubs is it not?
Yes it already happens to an extent in the league with so called top sides playing each other but league isnt championship.
Of course a county who loses 2 matches and wins sam are still champions.
If real madrid win the champions league having lost 2 games and won it beating Liverpool on penalties and it was Liverpool having got to final without losing would you say real madrid wouldnt be champions.
the current system isnt right and needed changing. too much was given away to winners of provincial championships which unfairly affected some provinces over others. the super 8s evens that up.
there may be some dead rubbers but there will not be loads of them. you neednt get so wound up by the possibility that there may be 1 or 2 dead rubber games out of the dozens of games that will be played." But it doesn't. Sorry to my rossies fans. But how the hell does beating London then having TWO CHANCES to win one game to get to super 8s equate to say donegal or Cavan ? It's ludicrous to use the provincial system as a means of when you enter championship proper.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/04/2018 20:27:51
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Replying To the_walls: "It's actually possible to win the All Ireland under the new format having lost 3 games." Is it? I actually didn't think it could happen but I think you may be right if other results went their way
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/04/2018 20:29:56
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Replying To cavanman47: "It's more than possible Donegalman.
Let's say the following happens this year. .
Mayo lose to Galway but make the super 8s. (Pretty much same run as last yr).
Dublin win Leinster and Galway win Connaught and are met by Mayo and Donegal in super 8s.
Then Mayo lose to Galway again and Dublin but hammer Donegal (all have happened in recent years), Dublin hammer Galway and Donegal and Donegal narrowly beat Galway.
That scenario would see Mayo make the semi final having lost 3 games.
And it's still not beyond the realms of possibility that they kick on and win Sam from there." Too many variables there for me
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 25/04/2018 20:37:15
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It is half time in the champions league as I type. These changes make me more and more interested in soccer. I find it exciting. I find the structure of GAA inter County championships awful. My personal opinion. I won't attend any games. I love hurling and football however and I am actively involved in my club at many level. I really really hope that Cork are not involved in Super 8. For the good of Cork football. Statistically, we are not one of the best 8 teams in the country, however, the lobsided, unfair nature of the championship means we win one game and we win two games and we are in it.
bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 25/04/2018 20:46:44
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The provincial competitions are the obstacle. We need to put a bullet in them if we're serious about bringing equity to the overall championship. The difficulty is, as with a lot of things in the GAA, we are too slow and set in our ways to embrace change. Provincial councils would be up in arms at the thought of their flagship competitions being disbanded. It also denies smaller counties the opportunity to win meaningful silverware. It might not happen often but in my lifetime I've seen Clare, Leitrim, Westmeath and Sligo win their province and Fermanagh were close in 08 as well.
Like a lot of folks I think an 8 x 4 champions league style competition is the realistic way to go. Seed the groups based on league performance and give the lower seeds home advantage in 2 of the 3 group games. Top 2 go into straight knockout for the Sam Maguire and bottom 2 go into a B competition. Both finals played on the one weekend. Maybe a Saturday evening throw-in for the B competition. Perhaps the B winners are allocated top seed status for the following year's groups?
This way every county has a shot at Sam Maguire. If they're good enough to get out of the group then fair play, if not compete in the B competition where meaningful silverware is still up for grabs. In every county in Ireland club football is graded at junior, intermediate and senior level so it baffles me why there is so much reluctance to a similar idea at county level.
Start the NFL first weekend of February and play for 4 consecutive weekends. 1 week break and then play the remaining fixtures. No league finals necessary. Two up two down. Using this format this year, the NFL would have been done and dusted by March 25th. (ok I'm not taking the bad weather we had into account). Maybe break for a month or so and begin the Championship proper on the May bank holiday weekend. I think it would be feasible to have the groups completed by the end of June.
That leaves all of July and August to play quarters, semi and finals in both A & B. I think this is fairly easy to mark down on a calendar at the beginning of the year, leaving county boards under no confusion so that they can run off their club games more efficiently. It also means a better games to training ratio than the current ludicrous situation that is in place.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 26/04/2018 11:28:06
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Replying To Lockjaw: "The provincial competitions are the obstacle. We need to put a bullet in them if we're serious about bringing equity to the overall championship. The difficulty is, as with a lot of things in the GAA, we are too slow and set in our ways to embrace change. Provincial councils would be up in arms at the thought of their flagship competitions being disbanded. It also denies smaller counties the opportunity to win meaningful silverware. It might not happen often but in my lifetime I've seen Clare, Leitrim, Westmeath and Sligo win their province and Fermanagh were close in 08 as well.
Like a lot of folks I think an 8 x 4 champions league style competition is the realistic way to go. Seed the groups based on league performance and give the lower seeds home advantage in 2 of the 3 group games. Top 2 go into straight knockout for the Sam Maguire and bottom 2 go into a B competition. Both finals played on the one weekend. Maybe a Saturday evening throw-in for the B competition. Perhaps the B winners are allocated top seed status for the following year's groups?
This way every county has a shot at Sam Maguire. If they're good enough to get out of the group then fair play, if not compete in the B competition where meaningful silverware is still up for grabs. In every county in Ireland club football is graded at junior, intermediate and senior level so it baffles me why there is so much reluctance to a similar idea at county level.
Start the NFL first weekend of February and play for 4 consecutive weekends. 1 week break and then play the remaining fixtures. No league finals necessary. Two up two down. Using this format this year, the NFL would have been done and dusted by March 25th. (ok I'm not taking the bad weather we had into account). Maybe break for a month or so and begin the Championship proper on the May bank holiday weekend. I think it would be feasible to have the groups completed by the end of June.
That leaves all of July and August to play quarters, semi and finals in both A & B. I think this is fairly easy to mark down on a calendar at the beginning of the year, leaving county boards under no confusion so that they can run off their club games more efficiently. It also means a better games to training ratio than the current ludicrous situation that is in place." That's the format I suggested on here a few months ago lockjaw and even Marc o'sé suggested the same format in his newspaper article in this week, it's the only way to go and like you say every team gets a chance to play for Sam and maybe the GAA could spring for a holiday for the winners of both the A and B competitions that way teams would go hell for leather in them.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 26/04/2018 12:41:04
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Yeah there's no point in repeating the same things over and over and hoping it'll improve. While I commend the GAA in recognizing that changes were needed, I don't think the super 8's are the optimum solution.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 26/04/2018 13:11:19
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Replying To royaldunne: " Replying To DonaldDuck: "As everyone knows this year we will have the super 8s, to replace the traditional knockout stage of the All Ireland quarter finals.
At a time when clubs are crying out for a more condensed county calendar year an additional 2 games per county at that stage has been introduced!!??... Why would the G.A.A have introduced this know?
I like most,will admit that at moment the National Leagues are the best intercounty competition at the moment, teams of equal standard competing each week,close games,makes great viewing for all.
Some argue that the super 8s means this will allow top teams to play at latter stages of championship,sure this already happens most years at semis,plus in the league every year,League and Championship should be different,whole appeal of championship football is knockout,on the given day,now we have a league within championship.
In my opinion there are many downsides to the new Super 8 split
- for first time a team could lose two championship matches and become All Ireland champs(are they really champs?)
- if team loses first two group games left with dead rubber games,nothing to play(poor atmosphere)
- reduces chances of lesser counties making a breakthrough run to the semis(like Tipperary)
- G.A.A have announced wont be extra Televised games,so no doubt the early rounds of championship wont be televised,so the "lesser counties" will get even less exposure as TV focuses on Super 8s
- Extra cost for families to follow their county with two additional games.
There is no doubt the additional money in the coffers was huge motivational factor in this new formatting for the G.A.A,which will suit the stronger counties for definite.
Also I think the decision to make under 17s seperate of senior provincial games has detracted greatly,a huge appeal for minor players was playing in front of huge crowds before senior county fixtures,how many will go to Under 17 single games!!!
Is there a backdoor now in the under 17 championship now?
macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 799 - 24/04/2018 21:34:59Doesnt every county in minor football get at least 2 games?
Isnt the inter county championship more condensed than previous years so more games but the championships finish 2/3 weeks earlier. thats plenty more times for clubs is it not?
Yes it already happens to an extent in the league with so called top sides playing each other but league isnt championship.
Of course a county who loses 2 matches and wins sam are still champions.
If real madrid win the champions league having lost 2 games and won it beating Liverpool on penalties and it was Liverpool having got to final without losing would you say real madrid wouldnt be champions.
the current system isnt right and needed changing. too much was given away to winners of provincial championships which unfairly affected some provinces over others. the super 8s evens that up.
there may be some dead rubbers but there will not be loads of them. you neednt get so wound up by the possibility that there may be 1 or 2 dead rubber games out of the dozens of games that will be played." But it doesn't. Sorry to my rossies fans. But how the hell does beating London then having TWO CHANCES to win one game to get to super 8s equate to say donegal or Cavan ? It's ludicrous to use the provincial system as a means of when you enter championship proper."
Would you consider this fair ?
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2592 - 27/04/2018 03:09:47
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Replying To omahant: " Replying To royaldunne: "[quote=DonaldDuck: "As everyone knows this year we will have the super 8s, to replace the traditional knockout stage of the All Ireland quarter finals.
At a time when clubs are crying out for a more condensed county calendar year an additional 2 games per county at that stage has been introduced!!??... Why would the G.A.A have introduced this know?
I like most,will admit that at moment the National Leagues are the best intercounty competition at the moment, teams of equal standard competing each week,close games,makes great viewing for all.
Some argue that the super 8s means this will allow top teams to play at latter stages of championship,sure this already happens most years at semis,plus in the league every year,League and Championship should be different,whole appeal of championship football is knockout,on the given day,now we have a league within championship.
In my opinion there are many downsides to the new Super 8 split
- for first time a team could lose two championship matches and become All Ireland champs(are they really champs?)
- if team loses first two group games left with dead rubber games,nothing to play(poor atmosphere)
- reduces chances of lesser counties making a breakthrough run to the semis(like Tipperary)
- G.A.A have announced wont be extra Televised games,so no doubt the early rounds of championship wont be televised,so the "lesser counties" will get even less exposure as TV focuses on Super 8s
- Extra cost for families to follow their county with two additional games.
There is no doubt the additional money in the coffers was huge motivational factor in this new formatting for the G.A.A,which will suit the stronger counties for definite.
Also I think the decision to make under 17s seperate of senior provincial games has detracted greatly,a huge appeal for minor players was playing in front of huge crowds before senior county fixtures,how many will go to Under 17 single games!!!
Is there a backdoor now in the under 17 championship now?
macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 799 - 24/04/2018 21:34:59Doesnt every county in minor football get at least 2 games?
Isnt the inter county championship more condensed than previous years so more games but the championships finish 2/3 weeks earlier. thats plenty more times for clubs is it not?
Yes it already happens to an extent in the league with so called top sides playing each other but league isnt championship.
Of course a county who loses 2 matches and wins sam are still champions.
If real madrid win the champions league having lost 2 games and won it beating Liverpool on penalties and it was Liverpool having got to final without losing would you say real madrid wouldnt be champions.
the current system isnt right and needed changing. too much was given away to winners of provincial championships which unfairly affected some provinces over others. the super 8s evens that up.
there may be some dead rubbers but there will not be loads of them. you neednt get so wound up by the possibility that there may be 1 or 2 dead rubber games out of the dozens of games that will be played." But it doesn't. Sorry to my rossies fans. But how the hell does beating London then having TWO CHANCES to win one game to get to super 8s equate to say donegal or Cavan ? It's ludicrous to use the provincial system as a means of when you enter championship proper."
Would you consider this fair ?"]any option which takes several re-reads to figure out or a night course in accountancy is never going to fly ...it prob sounds great in your head but alas most GAA heads are fuzzy, cluttered , dusty places
AnCeisCLG (Fermanagh) - Posts: 38 - 27/04/2018 16:38:35
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Replying To AnCeisCLG: " Replying To omahant: "[quote=royaldunne: "[quote=DonaldDuck: "As everyone knows this year we will have the super 8s, to replace the traditional knockout stage of the All Ireland quarter finals.
At a time when clubs are crying out for a more condensed county calendar year an additional 2 games per county at that stage has been introduced!!??... Why would the G.A.A have introduced this know?
I like most,will admit that at moment the National Leagues are the best intercounty competition at the moment, teams of equal standard competing each week,close games,makes great viewing for all.
Some argue that the super 8s means this will allow top teams to play at latter stages of championship,sure this already happens most years at semis,plus in the league every year,League and Championship should be different,whole appeal of championship football is knockout,on the given day,now we have a league within championship.
In my opinion there are many downsides to the new Super 8 split
- for first time a team could lose two championship matches and become All Ireland champs(are they really champs?)
- if team loses first two group games left with dead rubber games,nothing to play(poor atmosphere)
- reduces chances of lesser counties making a breakthrough run to the semis(like Tipperary)
- G.A.A have announced wont be extra Televised games,so no doubt the early rounds of championship wont be televised,so the "lesser counties" will get even less exposure as TV focuses on Super 8s
- Extra cost for families to follow their county with two additional games.
There is no doubt the additional money in the coffers was huge motivational factor in this new formatting for the G.A.A,which will suit the stronger counties for definite.
Also I think the decision to make under 17s seperate of senior provincial games has detracted greatly,a huge appeal for minor players was playing in front of huge crowds before senior county fixtures,how many will go to Under 17 single games!!!
Is there a backdoor now in the under 17 championship now?
macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 799 - 24/04/2018 21:34:59Doesnt every county in minor football get at least 2 games?
Isnt the inter county championship more condensed than previous years so more games but the championships finish 2/3 weeks earlier. thats plenty more times for clubs is it not?
Yes it already happens to an extent in the league with so called top sides playing each other but league isnt championship.
Of course a county who loses 2 matches and wins sam are still champions.
If real madrid win the champions league having lost 2 games and won it beating Liverpool on penalties and it was Liverpool having got to final without losing would you say real madrid wouldnt be champions.
the current system isnt right and needed changing. too much was given away to winners of provincial championships which unfairly affected some provinces over others. the super 8s evens that up.
there may be some dead rubbers but there will not be loads of them. you neednt get so wound up by the possibility that there may be 1 or 2 dead rubber games out of the dozens of games that will be played." But it doesn't. Sorry to my rossies fans. But how the hell does beating London then having TWO CHANCES to win one game to get to super 8s equate to say donegal or Cavan ? It's ludicrous to use the provincial system as a means of when you enter championship proper."
Would you consider this fair ?"]any option which takes several re-reads to figure out or a night course in accountancy is never going to fly ...it prob sounds great in your head but alas most GAA heads are fuzzy, cluttered , dusty places"]It wouldn't be right for me to opine on the deficiency of others - nor to bring myself down to such standards. Your last 7 words suggests a possible overdose.
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2592 - 29/04/2018 04:36:11
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