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Why have League Finals?

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Why have League Finals? Surely the team that finishes top of a league, worked out on points won plus goal difference or even head-to-head, should be declared winners. It is ridiculous that they then have to play off against the second placed team to decide who will actually be placed 'first'.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 28/03/2018 11:32:37    2088975

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Day out in croker for div 2,3 and 4 teams.

Chance for the country to see how good Carlow are.

What's not to like.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 28/03/2018 11:41:17    2088980

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$$$$ probably explains it.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 28/03/2018 11:43:06    2088983

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I don't see the problem, both teams in their respective divisions will have aimed for promotion so in that sense its job done. its a tradition in GAA intercounty anyway. club leagues have finals also. plus as the previous poster said its a day out in croke park for counties that wouldn't traditionally make it there.

theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 28/03/2018 11:48:22    2088988

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There is only 7 games first place team may have had 4 home games and the second place side only 3. Unlike soccer there are no European places to fight for here. Having 2 teams going in to a final and 2 relegation places gives most teams something to fight for up to the final couple of weeks. 3 or 4 teams often have a shot at that second place. It keeps things interesting

dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 337 - 28/03/2018 11:50:07    2088990

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Chance for me to hit Coppers.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 28/03/2018 11:57:51    2088996

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Replying To perfect10:  "$$$$ probably explains it."
If only the gaa didnt force us to pay the 20 euro to watch two league finals.

If only we had a choice.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 28/03/2018 12:20:14    2089009

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They are something of an anti-climax with the teams involved in the Division 2, 3 and 4 finals already winning promotion.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 28/03/2018 12:38:20    2089020

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Because we don't have proper leagues

If we had home and away fixtures then there wouldn't be much point in having a final

But we don't have that so the current format makes sense.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 28/03/2018 13:10:39    2089025

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Would have thought the players and fans of counties who are not regular visitors to Croke Park would relish the day out to see their teams playing there. It's also another competitive game for silverware and I'm sure each manager loves having that test before the break ahead of championship. You only have to look at the top article on the main page and comments of Cavan's Ciaran Brady to see that they certainly are not taking it as a meaningless game!

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 206 - 28/03/2018 13:36:28    2089032

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Why not? Day out and a few shillings for GAA which goes in the county pot

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 28/03/2018 14:18:43    2089048

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Replying To witnof:  "Why not? Day out and a few shillings for GAA which goes in the county pot"
True, but it's another weekend taken up with inter-county matches that are unnecessary.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 28/03/2018 17:38:10    2089115

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Replying To theweanling:  "I don't see the problem, both teams in their respective divisions will have aimed for promotion so in that sense its job done. its a tradition in GAA intercounty anyway. club leagues have finals also. plus as the previous poster said its a day out in croke park for counties that wouldn't traditionally make it there."
Very true when u think of the amount of interconty players that got to play in croker that may not have otherwise

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 28/03/2018 17:58:20    2089119

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I'd be happy enough if it was decided on points but as jimbo said you'd need home and away fixtures as it's too small/short a league to get much out of it.

And course if your team is involved I'd say most are happy enough to partake.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 28/03/2018 17:58:39    2089120

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Why have League Finals? Surely the team that finishes top of a league, worked out on points won plus goal difference or even head-to-head, should be declared winners. It is ridiculous that they then have to play off against the second placed team to decide who will actually be placed 'first'.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1093 - 28/03/2018 11:32:37
Extra games. Helps GAA get more media attention/marketing in April/May when other sports are getting a lot of attention as european competitions/domestic leagues reach a conclusion.
$$$$ probably explains it.
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 2256 - 28/03/2018 11:43:06
everything doesnt always fall to that

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/03/2018 21:51:10    2089186

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Replying To neverright:  "True, but it's another weekend taken up with inter-county matches that are unnecessary."
Ask the Galway lads which they would be rather doing Dublin and you know the answer.

I enjoy the Dubs been in them. National Final but one you can enjoy as you do not have the nerves of an All-ireland Final

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 29/03/2018 10:25:44    2089270

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Replying To witnof:  "Ask the Galway lads which they would be rather doing Dublin and you know the answer.

I enjoy the Dubs been in them. National Final but one you can enjoy as you do not have the nerves of an All-ireland Final"
Couldn't agree more!

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 708 - 29/03/2018 12:22:21    2089305

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Why does one team always get Home Advantage in them regardless if they finished top of the table or not?

Surely there should be a reward for coming 1st place?

37thHeaven (Kerry) - Posts: 102 - 29/03/2018 12:43:25    2089312

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Replying To 37thHeaven:  "Why does one team always get Home Advantage in them regardless if they finished top of the table or not?

Surely there should be a reward for coming 1st place?"
That is what I would expect in a League but some posters argue (perhaps correctly) that although this is the National League it is not a league because teams don't have a full quota of home and away fixtures. The teams that finish top of their divisions may have had more home games than others so it would not be fair to crown them as Division champions (at least I think that is the gist of the argument). However, this criteria does not come into play when deciding the teams to be relegated. I'm still confused.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 29/03/2018 16:04:41    2089368

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Replying To neverright:  "That is what I would expect in a League but some posters argue (perhaps correctly) that although this is the National League it is not a league because teams don't have a full quota of home and away fixtures. The teams that finish top of their divisions may have had more home games than others so it would not be fair to crown them as Division champions (at least I think that is the gist of the argument). However, this criteria does not come into play when deciding the teams to be relegated. I'm still confused."
You should change the right part of your name to happy.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 29/03/2018 16:48:38    2089377

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