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Diarmuid Connolly

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Your scoring stats point is not valid as I already said. The only one making a bizarre argument here is you. Connolly did very little from play when Keegan marks him andat the same time Keegan outscores him from play.

And then you try and claim Connolly won a heap of free conceded by Keegan which were kicked over by Rock and Cluxton. I mean how can I debate with someone who is just making things up to convince themselves they are right. Go back and do your research and tell me how many times Connolly was fouled by Keegan leading to a score? I will wait to hear back with the facts. It is no myth that he does well on Connolly, he shuts him down, just like he shut down Kilkenny even more effectively. It isn't he fault of Keegan that Mayo haven't got over the line.

Dublin are a great team, and have been slightly better than Mayo for the past 2 years and deservedly won their titles, it isn't an anti dub argument here. I am just pointing out when it comes to Connolly Dublin fans are absolutely blinded.

And others saying he is a better footballer than Keegan. Well it's apples and oranges. He is more gifted technically and can be a magician with the all but that doesn't mean he is more vital than a player like Keegan."
The irony of your posting in this thread mate is that you are trying to prove that Dubs are blinded when it comes to Connolly.

I'll leave it to lads to decide who is in fact blinded here! :D

I feel you guys rate Keegan and bit more then he actually is a player myself, he's a good player mind, but not of the quality of the Connolly's of this world. Real life and medals just reflect that really. If your satisfied with a moral victory so be it. Keegan will never go down as a great player without an all Ireland medal in my opinion. Connolly already is in the history books.

Never the Ywain will meet unfortunately.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 25/03/2018 14:13:18    2087673

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Replying To TheUsername:  "The irony of your posting in this thread mate is that you are trying to prove that Dubs are blinded when it comes to Connolly.

I'll leave it to lads to decide who is in fact blinded here! :D

I feel you guys rate Keegan and bit more then he actually is a player myself, he's a good player mind, but not of the quality of the Connolly's of this world. Real life and medals just reflect that really. If your satisfied with a moral victory so be it. Keegan will never go down as a great player without an all Ireland medal in my opinion. Connolly already is in the history books.

Never the Ywain will meet unfortunately."
You are delusional bud. Mattie Forde, Declan Browne, i could name 50 or 60 great players that don't have one. Such a sad way to look at things. Back to all those frees Keegan gave away that led to a load of scores, did you get a chance to watch the games back by any chance lol?

And again Keegan is a different type of player to Connolly, it was never in dispute how gifted Connolly was.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 25/03/2018 16:17:52    2087694

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "You are delusional bud. Mattie Forde, Declan Browne, i could name 50 or 60 great players that don't have one. Such a sad way to look at things. Back to all those frees Keegan gave away that led to a load of scores, did you get a chance to watch the games back by any chance lol?

And again Keegan is a different type of player to Connolly, it was never in dispute how gifted Connolly was."
Thanks my friend, I apologize that you seem offended by a contrasting opinion to your own, but call people delusional if that is the height of your debating skills.

Absolutely I don't think you can be considered a Tuvalu great player unles you win an all Ireland, I mean that is the actual point of the sport. I don't get your reasoning at all, it's that kind of mentality of nearly beating Dublin as some kind of success, it's not. Not having a Celtic cross doesn't mean your not a great player, your not. You can talk about all the moral victories in the world, it's competitve sport if your not a winner then your a looser, how close you came to the winner is irrelevant.

I'm sorry are you asking me to go of and count how many frees Keegan caused on Connolly, eh right, of you tot mate, I made the point you prove me wrong. I've been to every Dublin and Mayo game since the 2012 semi, I don't need to be watching match back! ;)

You can see from the narrative of that the posters that most think Keegan struggle a bit on Connolly. I'd say that's surprising for you.

I actually quite like Leegan and Connolly to be honest.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 25/03/2018 17:09:24    2087751

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Something isn't right here.

I don't believe for one second that he is just resting in any case and the more Diarmuid isn't in the match day squads, the more sure I am that we are not going to see an awful lot of him this year.

The rest thing from Jim Gavin just doesn't make sense. What is he being rested for ? I know he is 30 years old, but he has played 210 minutes of football for Dublin between the 2016 all Ireland final replay and yesterday. That's 210 minutes of intercounty football in 540 days so this needing a rest thing is just, Its not for me. I just don't buy it.

But there is a lot more to this than "just being rested" in my view and I don't see Diarmuid Connolly being involved all that much again for Dublin. I have been a huge Diarmuid Connolly critic for his antics before but ive never ever denied his quality or ability. The greatest ive ever seen on his day, but his days for me, are numbered. I hope im wrong cause I want to see the best players in Dublin play for Dublin and continue to win the major honours and keep us competing.

But, watch this space.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/03/2018 14:32:52    2088301

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I have heard there is something going on in the back ground and he is not part of the panel at present...Don't think he will be involved this year.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 26/03/2018 15:47:17    2088344

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "I have heard there is something going on in the back ground and he is not part of the panel at present...Don't think he will be involved this year."
If true it is an awful waste of his talent. As I said before on this thread Connolly should be the most dominant player in the country with his talent and being part of a great team. Could this actually be the end of his inter-county football career? He could always move to Donegal ha ha.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 26/03/2018 16:45:33    2088366

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Lot of rumours going around. I don't see him coming back this year. Huge loss to the panel if he's not back for the summer.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 26/03/2018 18:03:12    2088406

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Resting' me arse..resting for what..if there was any player who would have benefited from league game time it was D.C..especially after not being involved last year..if hes gone its a major loss for dublin' as on his day hes the best player in the country without a doubt..im a big fan of D.C and always have been.i think hes goneski meself..hope im wrong.

GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 26/03/2018 18:28:24    2088421

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Dublin just have too many talents coming through the ranks for this to be an issue.

Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 26/03/2018 18:34:46    2088424

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Thanks my friend, I apologize that you seem offended by a contrasting opinion to your own, but call people delusional if that is the height of your debating skills.

Absolutely I don't think you can be considered a Tuvalu great player unles you win an all Ireland, I mean that is the actual point of the sport. I don't get your reasoning at all, it's that kind of mentality of nearly beating Dublin as some kind of success, it's not. Not having a Celtic cross doesn't mean your not a great player, your not. You can talk about all the moral victories in the world, it's competitve sport if your not a winner then your a looser, how close you came to the winner is irrelevant.

I'm sorry are you asking me to go of and count how many frees Keegan caused on Connolly, eh right, of you tot mate, I made the point you prove me wrong. I've been to every Dublin and Mayo game since the 2012 semi, I don't need to be watching match back! ;)

You can see from the narrative of that the posters that most think Keegan struggle a bit on Connolly. I'd say that's surprising for you.

I actually quite like Leegan and Connolly to be honest."
Nonsense post. Of course you can be considered a great player without winning an all ireland.

A team wins an all ireland, not a single player. How could one player be expected to win sam if the rest of the team are not at a level required to win? It does not negate the talent of the individual. The example of Declan Browne is one of the best. He played in a fairly poor Tipp team and faced kerry and cork sides routinely that would dominate munster. Yet he shone on the pitch...He won two all stars as a tipp footballer. Only time I have seen that in my life. Ciaran McDonald from Mayo another fine example.....

A current example is Conor McManus. He is one of the finest forwards in the game and truly a great player. He has not won sam, I would love to think he will but the odds are not in his favour. However, he is a great, great player.

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 26/03/2018 18:41:36    2088428

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Diarmuid alas is no longer involved and is unlikely to be either at this stage.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 26/03/2018 18:52:01    2088431

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Johnny will be happy

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1764 - 26/03/2018 19:41:03    2088447

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If this is all down to Connolly giving out about not getting game time

Then Gavin is right to exclude him.

One of Gavin's biggest successes as Dublin manager has been his ability to keep the panel together and man manage a very talented squad who all want game time and have them playing as a team.

If Connolly is indeed making waves against that then tbh there's no place for that in this Dubs panel and he either wises up or yep.. he has to go.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 26/03/2018 20:03:08    2088456

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Replying To seanfinn:  "Nonsense post. Of course you can be considered a great player without winning an all ireland.

A team wins an all ireland, not a single player. How could one player be expected to win sam if the rest of the team are not at a level required to win? It does not negate the talent of the individual. The example of Declan Browne is one of the best. He played in a fairly poor Tipp team and faced kerry and cork sides routinely that would dominate munster. Yet he shone on the pitch...He won two all stars as a tipp footballer. Only time I have seen that in my life. Ciaran McDonald from Mayo another fine example.....

A current example is Conor McManus. He is one of the finest forwards in the game and truly a great player. He has not won sam, I would love to think he will but the odds are not in his favour. However, he is a great, great player."
All fair points and no one is dismissing the quality of sad players, they won't be remembered as all time greats like say five time all Ireland winner like say Colm Cooper. That's just the reality of it unfortunately.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 26/03/2018 20:50:25    2088484

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Replying To jimbodub:  "If this is all down to Connolly giving out about not getting game time

Then Gavin is right to exclude him.

One of Gavin's biggest successes as Dublin manager has been his ability to keep the panel together and man manage a very talented squad who all want game time and have them playing as a team.

If Connolly is indeed making waves against that then tbh there's no place for that in this Dubs panel and he either wises up or yep.. he has to go."
Connolly does not owe anything to Dublin football and it will not be easy to replace him. Someone mentioned McManus as good player and I agree with that, but he is not in the same league as Connolly.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 26/03/2018 21:08:05    2088491

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Replying To GGdub:  "Resting' me arse..resting for what..if there was any player who would have benefited from league game time it was D.C..especially after not being involved last year..if hes gone its a major loss for dublin' as on his day hes the best player in the country without a doubt..im a big fan of D.C and always have been.i think hes goneski meself..hope im wrong."
nailed it.

rested ?? he is in his hoop being rested

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/03/2018 21:34:22    2088507

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Diarmuid got a job in Westport and is sharing a house with his good mate Leeroy. He has transferred to Mayo and all will be announced very soon ;)

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 26/03/2018 22:20:16    2088518

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Replying To browncows:  "Connolly does not owe anything to Dublin football and it will not be easy to replace him. Someone mentioned McManus as good player and I agree with that, but he is not in the same league as Connolly."
Yes he's in a higher league than Connolly. McManus is legitimately one of the best players in the country.

Connolly is not even in the top 8-9 players in Dublin.

Top 4 for me currently are Cluxton/Kilkenny/MCCarthy/Fenton (all 4 are top class players)
then McMahon/Cooper/OSullivan/Mannion.

Connolly would be in the next group after that.

Being from Mayo I never worried about Connolly. Its the likes of B Brogan, MCCauley, Flynn, CLuxton, Kilkenny, MCCarthy, Fenton that have done real damage.

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 26/03/2018 22:27:52    2088520

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Might Diarmuid Connolly play an All Irl Hurling C'ship game before a football one in 2018 ?

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 26/03/2018 22:49:07    2088529

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Replying To centerfield:  "Yes he's in a higher league than Connolly. McManus is legitimately one of the best players in the country.

Connolly is not even in the top 8-9 players in Dublin.

Top 4 for me currently are Cluxton/Kilkenny/MCCarthy/Fenton (all 4 are top class players)
then McMahon/Cooper/OSullivan/Mannion.

Connolly would be in the next group after that.

Being from Mayo I never worried about Connolly. Its the likes of B Brogan, MCCauley, Flynn, CLuxton, Kilkenny, MCCarthy, Fenton that have done real damage."
You're having a laugh. Most naturally gifted footballer of his generation and I was lucky to see the likes of McDonald and Fitzgerald in the flesh in their prime. McManus is a smashing point taker but not in the same league as DC. DC is a flawed genius but a genius none the less.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 26/03/2018 22:56:11    2088534

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