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This is what I was trying to say. Aside from Mayo, who are a cracking team but just short of that little bit of quality (or maybe just luck) to land the big prize, who is competing in this era? Jimbo you can deflect about tactics all you want but there is a distinct lack of quality around at the minute. The drop off in Leinster and Ulster in the past few years is actually alarming. Never before have so many teams hit such lows all at the same time. I would agree that Dublin would have won a All Ireland's regardless as they are a great team with a great manager, but I really doubt they would have it all their own way in the manner that they do now. Your put downs of Tyrone in your last few posts and referring to a Kerry team including Colm Cooper, Declan O'Sullivan, the O'Se's and Moynihan as some sort of ugly long ball merchants is just laughable, and just really shows up what you know about football tbh. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 01/04/2018 00:15:05 2089849 Link 2 |
Sincerely hope he will be back. It would be a much less entertaining summer, in so many different ways, without him.
GormlaighG (Mayo) - Posts: 77 - 01/04/2018 00:32:38 2089851 Link 0 |
He will be back. Nothing more sure. border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 02/04/2018 13:46:37 2090299 Link 0 |
Jim after the game yesterday: TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 02/04/2018 14:41:06 2090327 Link 3 |
Not trying to deflect at all It's called having a different opinion No doubt Kerry had great players in the 00's But the game has advanced since they played. It's superior now in numerous ways and it's very competitive at the business end with the level of tactical awareness now which far exceeds that of the 00's It's very hard to win big games now and there's so much more going on compared to previous decades. The day of 15 v 15 is over. Lumping in high ball is used very little now but can still be effective of course. The games and results are there as clear as day across the 10's to back up just how competitive it's been. There's been very little cake walks as clearly seen in previous decades. The tactics are now there to counteract a team with superior players, tactics that just weren't deployed or even conceived of in past decades. 4 teams have won Sam this decade so really its business as normal apart from the fact that it's not Kerry winning but honestly don't see it remaining that way for long. It's a pity to see you talking so poorly about your current team.. worst side in 30 years? You've a very young team and they showed glimpses of what may come.. Think they deserve to be spoken about a little more favourably compared to what you contributed above. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/04/2018 20:05:27 2090805 Link 0 |
Not trying to deflect at all It's called having a different opinion No doubt Kerry had great players in the 00's But the game has advanced since they played. It's superior now in numerous ways and it's very competitive at the business end with the level of tactical awareness now which far exceeds that of the 00's It's very hard to win big games now and there's so much more going on compared to previous decades. The day of 15 v 15 is over. Lumping in high ball is used very little now but can still be effective of course. The games and results are there as clear as day across the 10's to back up just how competitive it's been. There's been very little cake walks as clearly seen in previous decades. The tactics are now there to counteract a team with superior players, tactics that just weren't deployed or even conceived of in past decades. 4 teams have won Sam this decade so really its business as normal apart from the fact that it's not Kerry winning but honestly don't see it remaining that way for long. It's a pity to see you talking so poorly about your current team.. worst side in 30 years? You've a very young team and they showed glimpses of what may come.. Think they deserve to be spoken about a little more favourably compared to what you contributed above."]It is without question the worst Kerry team in 30 years. I take your point on teams setting up to stifle the top teams, but all that does is keep the score down - if the top team has an off day, they will still win because the opposition hasn't set up to score heavily and punish them. Dublin are the best team this decade, but it's a poor era. And even then they've rode their luck against Kerry (Who are a poor Kerry team) and particularly Mayo (Who have an amazing ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory). As for there being no walkovers anymore - have you ignore your Leinster championship campaigns since 2011 and just shown up for the all ireland semi finals and finals!? cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 03/04/2018 20:58:47 2090822 Link 1 |
Not trying to deflect at all It's called having a different opinion No doubt Kerry had great players in the 00's But the game has advanced since they played. It's superior now in numerous ways and it's very competitive at the business end with the level of tactical awareness now which far exceeds that of the 00's It's very hard to win big games now and there's so much more going on compared to previous decades. The day of 15 v 15 is over. Lumping in high ball is used very little now but can still be effective of course. The games and results are there as clear as day across the 10's to back up just how competitive it's been. There's been very little cake walks as clearly seen in previous decades. The tactics are now there to counteract a team with superior players, tactics that just weren't deployed or even conceived of in past decades. 4 teams have won Sam this decade so really its business as normal apart from the fact that it's not Kerry winning but honestly don't see it remaining that way for long. It's a pity to see you talking so poorly about your current team.. worst side in 30 years? You've a very young team and they showed glimpses of what may come.. Think they deserve to be spoken about a little more favourably compared to what you contributed above."]It is without question the worst Kerry team in 30 years. I take your point on teams setting up to stifle the top teams, but all that does is keep the score down - if the top team has an off day, they will still win because the opposition hasn't set up to score heavily and punish them. Dublin are the best team this decade, but it's a poor era. And even then they've rode their luck against Kerry (Who are a poor Kerry team) and particularly Mayo (Who have an amazing ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory). As for there being no walkovers anymore - have you ignore your Leinster championship campaigns since 2011 and just shown up for the all ireland semi finals and finals!?"]I clearly said business end. Provincial championships are indeed a walk over for a few counties this decade though but the business end is hugely competitive If a poor enough 00 Dubs team setup like Dublin 2010/2011 they prob/could have done much better That's how far the game has come nowadays. Tactically it's a far more advanced game and makes it even harder to win. The results don't lie. There's a reason why big games are being won by a kick of a ball this decade. The tactics and managerial knowledge has progressed to such a degree that teams can now compete and beat superior teams. Kerry were collectively a better team they Dublin in 2011 and would of beaten that Dubs team in any other decade but Dublin deployed a strategy and game plan that no other Dubs team had before them and it worked It's really not a poor era. How can a decade made up of such competitive games at such a high level of performance be a poor era. Want to see really poor football - watch classic games on TG4 jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/04/2018 21:15:57 2090827 Link 1 |
Wasn't referring to the current team jimbo, which is a young team as you rightly say. The howls on here after that 2014 win were hilarious, where we were accused of stealing an All Ireland and all sorts. Many people said it was one of the weakest teams ever to win Sam, I don't know about that but it was certainly unexpected in the kingdom anyway. I think if Donegal hadn't caught ye that day in 2014 ye'd now have 5 in a row, no doubt in my mind anyway. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 03/04/2018 22:00:52 2090839 Link 2 |
Good post.
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/04/2018 22:06:21 2090842 Link 2 |
He's back! TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 04/05/2018 23:00:07 2096749 Link 0 |
I wasn't aware he was gone , but fair play to him I guess.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 05/05/2018 12:26:01 2096792 Link 1 |
Would it be fair to say that Kilkenny and O'Callaghan now have the 11 and 14 jerseys nailed down? Will be interesting to see where Connolly fits in this summer if he does come back. I know he was immense when he came in during the final last year but I can't see him being happy with a peripheral role like that long term, and I don't think a different role in the team would suit him. Would he start if everyone was fit Username? GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 05/05/2018 13:20:03 2096798 Link 0 |
Well now that brogan is out injured there is surely a spot for him in the corner, o'callaghan rock and Kilkenny are gaurenteed starters as is Flynn if he's fit and maybe paddy Andrews. Ah he'll get his place all right.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 05/05/2018 15:05:02 2096806 Link 1 |
tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 602 - 05/05/2018 16:34:02 2096818 Link 0 |
I wouldn't be assuming anything just yet. He may well link up with the footballers but I would not be counting chickens yet. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 05/05/2018 17:47:46 2096825 Link 0 |
Is Connolly a good enough hurler to get in to Gilroy's championship 15? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 05/05/2018 19:33:36 2096836 Link 1 |
I was more speaking from a human point of view to be honest about being back. Hopefully he's just happy out and back doing his thing with Vinnies. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 05/05/2018 19:35:11 2096838 Link 0 |
Sure can't ye rest him for the Leinster championship and let him of the leash in the super 8s , he'l be grand as I'm sure jim Gavin will get him some help with anger management , I remember Paul Galvin went to one of the mcnulty brothers in 09 and he went on to be footballer of the year.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 06/05/2018 11:58:32 2096886 Link 1 |
Connolly won't be back with the footballers this year. Jim Gavin and him are just polar opposites and I don't think he feels the love from Jim. He 'll play some club and maybe link up with the hurlers. He's a great hurler, wing forward or centre. 4 points a game from play man. He'd form some ball winning half forward line if himself and Danny Sutcliffe link up. I struggle to see Dublin winning an All Ireland in football without him PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 06/05/2018 14:16:06 2096905 Link 0 |
Dublin would be fine without Connolly, they blew every team away on their way to the final last year and even though Connolly did well when he came on and manufactured the winning free but I think Dublin would have won that game regardless, it might have been a different story if Vaughan hadn't lost his head after the john small incident.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 06/05/2018 17:55:05 2096929 Link 0 |