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Andy Moran Hands On Maurice Deegan

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Pat Spillane "there the rules" as you hear him say clearly on this clip , how come he wasn't as consistent last night? 3 months Connolly got for that wow one of the biggest witch hunts ever.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 19/03/2018 13:33:00    2085799

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Simple as this if contact was made then it's a 12 week ban, if only a difference of opinion then the black will do, stupid for Andy to do that, if Andy get a 3 month ban it means he won't be back until mid June and based on Mayo's performance yesterday Mayo won't see June, and this useless management team will be removed

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 19/03/2018 13:41:26    2085807

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I think that game in general highlights the complete inconsistency of referees, the CCCC and the GAA in general. A lot of issues after today. Moran should receive the 12 weeks...you just cant do what he did. Boyle ended up getting sent off....but how does he not receive a black. By the referees logic with the Tyrone sending of it should have been red i.e. no real intent to go shoulder to shoulder, only real intention was to lay down a marker. Also the Cavanagh black card was actually farcical. They need to redefine some of the rules big time and get the message out loud and clear. That lasst point is particularly important. An example: referees in my county have misinterpreting the new kickout rule. That signals a lack of communication to me. At intercounty level they need to introduce a 2nd referee. Very difficult to referee well given the sheer size of the pitch.

breakingball22 (Louth) - Posts: 419 - 19/03/2018 13:46:22    2085811

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Replying To riverboys:  "Simple as this if contact was made then it's a 12 week ban, if only a difference of opinion then the black will do, stupid for Andy to do that, if Andy get a 3 month ban it means he won't be back until mid June and based on Mayo's performance yesterday Mayo won't see June, and this useless management team will be removed"
Riverboys he 100% bumped purposely into the ref after he was frustrated of a free given against him. It's a pity it's Andy we have to have nail for this cause I think everyone in the game likes Andy he's one of the good guys.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 19/03/2018 14:07:34    2085820

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Riverboys he 100% bumped purposely into the ref after he was frustrated of a free given against him. It's a pity it's Andy we have to have nail for this cause I think everyone in the game likes Andy he's one of the good guys."
Andy is sound. Sound fellas don't get suspended. It's in the u written rules above.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7359 - 19/03/2018 14:11:39    2085824

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "https://youtu.be/90nsP6NuBA8


Pat Spillane "there the rules" as you hear him say clearly on this clip , how come he wasn't as consistent last night? 3 months Connolly got for that wow one of the biggest witch hunts ever."
People stopped caring what Pat Spillane said years ago clondalkin, if you are using him as your oracle for all things GAA then you are using the wrong man.

All you have to do is go back through this thread you will see that most people agree that Moran should get the same treatment. There is no anti Dublin bias on show here, frightening or otherwise.

As for a witch hunt, calm down man, that is is just nonsense. Connolly deserved what he got & Moran should get the same as should anyone who touches an official.

It looks like it could be a long 2018 on HS.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 19/03/2018 14:12:23    2085826

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "People stopped caring what Pat Spillane said years ago clondalkin, if you are using him as your oracle for all things GAA then you are using the wrong man.

All you have to do is go back through this thread you will see that most people agree that Moran should get the same treatment. There is no anti Dublin bias on show here, frightening or otherwise.

As for a witch hunt, calm down man, that is is just nonsense. Connolly deserved what he got & Moran should get the same as should anyone who touches an official.

It looks like it could be a long 2018 on HS."
Its all about consistency, whatever the offence as long as the rules and sanctions are equally applied.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 19/03/2018 14:39:38    2085833

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Replying To arock:  "Its all about consistency, whatever the offence as long as the rules and sanctions are equally applied."
There's no consistency in the application of rules in the gaa.That's what causes a lot of the resentment and bad feeling when players get suspended and sanctioned.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2170 - 19/03/2018 14:47:28    2085838

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "Don't think anyone is disputing Connolly ban what is obvious is the difference in the media coverage the media went into meltdown with Connolly in my opinion Moran was worse it will be very interesting to see if anything comes of it. It looks black and white should be a 12 week ban."
Fair point. Dublin in fairness get analysed to death. Biggest market hence sells more papers, advertising etc. Players have to put up with a lot more scrutiny. Otter side is they have more commercial opportunities. Also because they are one of the greatest teams of all time they will be scrutinised. If they were useless no would care.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1833 - 19/03/2018 14:54:16    2085843

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Maurice shook Andy's hand before he left the field. It was more of a 'you'll be grand for the Galway game' handshake and less of a 'Book that three month family holiday now Andy cos you'll get 12 weeks for this' handshake. Just an observation....

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7359 - 19/03/2018 15:18:34    2085851

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You would have to laugh the way some posters are actually asking if there was any contact.
If you cannot see the contact you are either blind or just in denial.
What was the black card ?

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 19/03/2018 15:33:38    2085853

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "People stopped caring what Pat Spillane said years ago clondalkin, if you are using him as your oracle for all things GAA then you are using the wrong man.

All you have to do is go back through this thread you will see that most people agree that Moran should get the same treatment. There is no anti Dublin bias on show here, frightening or otherwise.

As for a witch hunt, calm down man, that is is just nonsense. Connolly deserved what he got & Moran should get the same as should anyone who touches an official.

It looks like it could be a long 2018 on HS."
Muck you're still on here I thought you'd be long gone by now, good to see you've still got some fight in you.

Muck the whole media , social media everyone and anyone had an opinion on Connolly for some reason the opinion on Andy is nowhere near as heavy , I wonder why not? Where are all the ex players and journalists who slated Connolly last year?? I was told last year so many times what sort of an example is this to kids to let Connolly off. For me Andy Moran like Connolly doesn't deserve a ban never mind a 3 month ban but the Gaa set a precedent that they have to up hold now.


By the way I like the look of Donegal when all their players are back especially with the Dub Mcbreaty class act, I think you'll go well this year. Murphy needs to step up he looks unfit right now.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 19/03/2018 15:48:46    2085860

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Haven't seen the incident but people say there is forceful contact so Croke Park must now show consistency. It would be very unfair and an abdication of responsibility if they don't. Connolly and Dublin would have every right to complain if nothing happens.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 19/03/2018 15:53:50    2085863

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He ran at him aggressively with arms out made contact with his chest in which the ref was knocked back a step, that's physical contact unfortunately for Andy he has to accept his punishment

crnm (Donegal) - Posts: 100 - 19/03/2018 16:35:16    2085877

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I wanted to avoid this but this is laughable lads. Anyone who has seen me posting on Mayo in the past will know I call a spade a spade, this is not the same as the Connolly incident. Seriously lads. Andy got up , was in disbelief at the decision went over to remonstrate with Deegan, O Shea was in front of him, Andy side stepped him as he tried to give out to Deegan. He had his hands out the whole time and was totally off balance when he actually got to Deegan. People acting as if he purposely went forward and chest bumped him, give it a rest lads. I couldn't have given two hoots whether Connolly got off or not last year but to try and say the incidents are the same is just clutching at straws. Please watch it again. Big difference also is Deegan dealt with incident at the time, argue all you want about what he should have done but he dealt with it as he saw it, again totally different to Connolly incident.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 19/03/2018 16:42:28    2085882

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "I wanted to avoid this but this is laughable lads. Anyone who has seen me posting on Mayo in the past will know I call a spade a spade, this is not the same as the Connolly incident. Seriously lads. Andy got up , was in disbelief at the decision went over to remonstrate with Deegan, O Shea was in front of him, Andy side stepped him as he tried to give out to Deegan. He had his hands out the whole time and was totally off balance when he actually got to Deegan. People acting as if he purposely went forward and chest bumped him, give it a rest lads. I couldn't have given two hoots whether Connolly got off or not last year but to try and say the incidents are the same is just clutching at straws. Please watch it again. Big difference also is Deegan dealt with incident at the time, argue all you want about what he should have done but he dealt with it as he saw it, again totally different to Connolly incident."
I've watched it all day he 100% purposely chest bumped the ref aggressively not even a doubt in my mind it's as clear as day. Why was he black carded then? Come on man we all know what we've seen.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 19/03/2018 17:04:39    2085893

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "I wanted to avoid this but this is laughable lads. Anyone who has seen me posting on Mayo in the past will know I call a spade a spade, this is not the same as the Connolly incident. Seriously lads. Andy got up , was in disbelief at the decision went over to remonstrate with Deegan, O Shea was in front of him, Andy side stepped him as he tried to give out to Deegan. He had his hands out the whole time and was totally off balance when he actually got to Deegan. People acting as if he purposely went forward and chest bumped him, give it a rest lads. I couldn't have given two hoots whether Connolly got off or not last year but to try and say the incidents are the same is just clutching at straws. Please watch it again. Big difference also is Deegan dealt with incident at the time, argue all you want about what he should have done but he dealt with it as he saw it, again totally different to Connolly incident."
Omg how blinkered can you get. The chap was completely wound up cos the decision went against him just like Connolly was last year. He then went straight over to Deegan and put it up to him aggressively using his chest. It was completely purposeful. It doesn't matter that he dealt with it at the time. The ref gave Evan Comerford a red card last year but he was still banned by the CCCC for 12 weeks for being aggressive with the ref. Brannigan was deemed to have dealt with DC too but the CCCC thought differently. I think you really need to take off your Mayo specs for this one. Andy was totally out of order and he knows it. The irony is that by shaking Deegans hand he may get away with it. A lovely chap by all accounts but I can't see on what basis he will get away with this given all the other players that havent. Most recently Gordon Kelly for squirting water at an umpire I believe. Not everything is being judged by the DC incident.

DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 19/03/2018 17:18:10    2085899

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Maurice shook Andy's hand before he left the field. It was more of a 'you'll be grand for the Galway game' handshake and less of a 'Book that three month family holiday now Andy cos you'll get 12 weeks for this' handshake. Just an observation...."
Maybe a masonic bump is all it was so.No harm done Andy, well leave it at that.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 19/03/2018 17:28:38    2085902

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "I wanted to avoid this but this is laughable lads. Anyone who has seen me posting on Mayo in the past will know I call a spade a spade, this is not the same as the Connolly incident. Seriously lads. Andy got up , was in disbelief at the decision went over to remonstrate with Deegan, O Shea was in front of him, Andy side stepped him as he tried to give out to Deegan. He had his hands out the whole time and was totally off balance when he actually got to Deegan. People acting as if he purposely went forward and chest bumped him, give it a rest lads. I couldn't have given two hoots whether Connolly got off or not last year but to try and say the incidents are the same is just clutching at straws. Please watch it again. Big difference also is Deegan dealt with incident at the time, argue all you want about what he should have done but he dealt with it as he saw it, again totally different to Connolly incident."
Hilarious, "Andy fell over into the ref"

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 19/03/2018 17:31:55    2085904

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "I've watched it all day he 100% purposely chest bumped the ref aggressively not even a doubt in my mind it's as clear as day. Why was he black carded then? Come on man we all know what we've seen."
You watched it all day? That's some high tech sh*t you have there that slows the replay down that slow.....

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7359 - 19/03/2018 17:39:05    2085908

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