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Look, Andy's a decent lad and no doubt he had a moment of madness. Nobody died, very little in it. But there was very little in the Connolly incident and he was made out to be a hothead, and demonised. Certain analysts made it their business to hang him out to dry. The same guys didnt feel the need to quote from rulebook last night. Last year I said that this was only enforced as it was Dublin, and Connolly! If the GAA are transparent in their enforcing of the rules Andy Moran needs to get a 12 week ban. I dont think he deserves it, but a precedent was set with Connolly last year and it would be unfair not to enforce the rules because people like Andy. JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 19/03/2018 10:47:15 2085699 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "WAs delay with on the field so no more will some of it. Connolly ban was ridiculous at the time too. Move along" How can we move along after what happened to our player last year? Surely we have the right to back our player here and want consistency from the Gaa? Where is the outrage from all on here like there was last year over nothing. The anti Dub agenda in the Gaa is frightening it's clear for everyone to see. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 19/03/2018 10:48:22 2085701 Link
I believe Moran should be judged on these actions alone. I dont think he will however get any sort of ban. Double standards and all of that. Although i dont like to see some of the dubs supporters twitter feeds beying for blood. I really dont want our games to go down that route. daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 19/03/2018 10:49:13 2085702 Link
Replying To JayP: "Unfortunately the rules are only targeted at some counties and not others. Spillane wasn't quoting the rulebook last night. Moran made an error, he didnt kill the referee or anything, Connolly barely touched the linesman last year. But Moran deserves a 3 month ban if the GAA really want the rules to be abided by. As people on here spouted about Connolly last year.....the rules are the rules. But like everything, people will say Andy is a nice guy and the GAA hierarchy will turn a blind eye. Its amazing how the media and morality police we had here last year arent available for comment. I said last year at the time we wouldnt be long waiting for another such incident and wondered would there be a witch hunt? I guess I know the answer now." I don't know maybe the GAA look at previous behavior of players when making these decisions, I mean Connolly is always in some sort of trouble it seems whereas Andy Moran is a gentleman on and off the field. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 19/03/2018 10:50:33 2085703 Link
What you make of the tyrone hit on Leeroy? I see you left that out. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 19/03/2018 10:54:42 2085707 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "SO we're all allowed chest bump a referee in an aggressive manner in games now ? That's good to know. Listen Andy is a good guy I know he lost his father recently I don't want to be banning him I just want consistency from the Gaa that's all. A Dublin man barely touched a linesman last year and he was called a thug a scumbag a disgrace and now it looks like his Dublin career is basically over cause he hasn't really played for us since. Paid O Se and Dinny Allen punch the head off each sure isn't it great craic , Mick Lyons gets a punch off a cork man "Lyons is a hard man" Colm Boyle destroys a man yesterday "ah Colm is a full bloodied player" Philly McMahon or Connolly touch a player or pull them down their label straight away thugs scumbags etc" Connolly may have barely touched the linesman last year but he also jabbed two fingers aggressively very close to the face of the linesman which was certainly threatening behaviour towards an official which cannot be tolerated. There is an issue of consistency here though no doubt. Will the fact that the ref dealt with it yesterday mean that's the end of it? It shouldn't if right is right. I'd have a lot of sympathy for Moran if he gets a ban over this but I'll confess I had none for Connolly (and that had nothing to do with the fact that Carlow were involved in his incident) but then that's not right either. If the penalty for minor interference with an official is 12 weeks then Moran has to get that too, just as Comerford did also. Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1412 - 19/03/2018 11:11:58 2085719 Link
I have to admit I'm commenting without seeing the Moran incident but if he interfered physically in any way with the ref then he should absolutely get equal punishment to Connolly. No question about it. Doesn't matter if he's a nice guy or not. The referee should be sacrosanct, otherwise the whole thing goes to pot. Eoin Doyle got booked and sent off over a gum shield so rules were rules then too I was told on here. kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 19/03/2018 11:20:48 2085723 Link
Replying To JayP: "Look, Andy's a decent lad and no doubt he had a moment of madness. Nobody died, very little in it. But there was very little in the Connolly incident and he was made out to be a hothead, and demonised. Certain analysts made it their business to hang him out to dry. The same guys didnt feel the need to quote from rulebook last night. Last year I said that this was only enforced as it was Dublin, and Connolly! If the GAA are transparent in their enforcing of the rules Andy Moran needs to get a 12 week ban. I dont think he deserves it, but a precedent was set with Connolly last year and it would be unfair not to enforce the rules because people like Andy." A Clare footballer is currently serving a 12 week ban for squirting water at an umpire. A Tipperary footballer got a 12 week ban last year for knocking the book out of a referees hands. There is no big Dublin conspiracy, it's just rules being applied. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 19/03/2018 11:21:31 2085724 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "What you make of the tyrone hit on Leeroy? I see you left that out." Wasn't as bad as Boyles hit which he only got a yellow for. Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 19/03/2018 11:27:15 2085728 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "What you make of the tyrone hit on Leeroy? I see you left that out." Not sure who you are asking but that hit was every bit as bad as the one colm Boyle only got a yellow for. Hate the predictable way this topic has gone. It's a thread about Connolly after Dublin fans bringing it back to that and after a number of pages will end up being it's the gaa, media, whole country against Dublin and dermo the victim. For me, Moran should get a ban for this in the same way 4/5 other's have been in the last 12 months despite people thinking only 1 person in history has been banned for similar. Does any of this matter anyway? What's the rule in regards to deegan having dealt with it on the pitch and how it will go in his match report, can the ccc come back and review this? tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 19/03/2018 11:42:35 2085739 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "SO we're all allowed chest bump a referee in an aggressive manner in games now ? That's good to know. Listen Andy is a good guy I know he lost his father recently I don't want to be banning him I just want consistency from the Gaa that's all. A Dublin man barely touched a linesman last year and he was called a thug a scumbag a disgrace and now it looks like his Dublin career is basically over cause he hasn't really played for us since. Paid O Se and Dinny Allen punch the head off each sure isn't it great craic , Mick Lyons gets a punch off a cork man "Lyons is a hard man" Colm Boyle destroys a man yesterday "ah Colm is a full bloodied player" Philly McMahon or Connolly touch a player or pull them down their label straight away thugs scumbags etc" The only one who can say for sure if Moran did make contact with the referee is the ref himself. Calling for bans on the back of poor television angles, because poor Diarmuid was banned for something more obvious, is pointless. The late tackle by Colm Boyle yesterday was, at the very least, a black card and in my opinion deserved a red. This was actually highlighted by Spillane last night so I don't see that anyone is making allowances for Boyle. Connolly deserved his ban under the rules, even though I felt at the time the suspension was too long for an offence at the less serious end of the scale. Regardless of Andy being a nice guy and having a personal loss recently, if it says in the referees report that he physically made contact then he will also be banned. Jason Sherlock to, will be banned after yestedays little altercation with the Galway lad as McEntee was banned for something similar a few weeks ago. Won't make any difference to the Dubs though, just one less body on the sideline. As for the "hands on Maurice Deegan" heading, I presume that refers to Andy shaking hands with him as he left the field! Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 19/03/2018 11:44:18 2085740 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "What you make of the tyrone hit on Leeroy? I see you left that out." Boyle's hit on HP McGreary was very different to McNulty's on Keegan. McNulty was going for the ball and mistimed his shoulder on keegan by milliseconds. Boyle could off clearly backed out his "tackle". The ball was away and Boyle clearly intended to take out the Tyrone player. Which he did and amazingly only got a yellow while McNulty got a red. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 19/03/2018 11:53:41 2085745 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "What you make of the tyrone hit on Leeroy? I see you left that out." It was a scandalous hit but so too was boyles cowardly hit. Two very dangerous head high tackles that have no place in gaa Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1833 - 19/03/2018 12:14:34 2085756 Link
A lot of rubbish bring written now making out Connolly shouldn't have been suspended. Off course be should. Issue was dealt with correctly. Very clear cut. End of. As I'm afraid is the Andy Moran issue. He is definitely guilty of same offence. His only hope of avoiding suspension is a role brought in at congress about no retrospective action if ref had dealt with it. Stupid rule by the way. If ref fails to implement rules there should be no barrier for further punishment. You just can't touch an official. No 2 ways about it. And I think Andy realised that the second be did it. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1833 - 19/03/2018 12:21:37 2085758 Link
Replying To tipp11: "Not sure who you are asking but that hit was every bit as bad as the one colm Boyle only got a yellow for. Hate the predictable way this topic has gone. It's a thread about Connolly after Dublin fans bringing it back to that and after a number of pages will end up being it's the gaa, media, whole country against Dublin and dermo the victim. For me, Moran should get a ban for this in the same way 4/5 other's have been in the last 12 months despite people thinking only 1 person in history has been banned for similar. Does any of this matter anyway? What's the rule in regards to deegan having dealt with it on the pitch and how it will go in his match report, can the ccc come back and review this?" If you remember this incident last year. It was dealt with on the pitch and he still got 12 weeks. https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0627/885998-burns-banned-for-12-weeks-for-kicking-ball-at-umpire/ footballfirst (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 19/03/2018 12:40:28 2085772 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "What you make of the tyrone hit on Leeroy? I see you left that out." The hit on Keegan was a disgrace no doubt about it. We don't want to see that, very dangerous play. Cards can be upgraded and when the cccc talk to the ref surely it has to be upgraded? We all know he was black carded for what he did to the ref he knew straight away he crossed the line and even shook Deegan's hand after. All we want as supporters is consistency from the powers that be, the whole of Dublin Gaa is watching. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 19/03/2018 12:58:12 2085780 Link
Replying To Llaw_Gyffes: "The only one who can say for sure if Moran did make contact with the referee is the ref himself. Calling for bans on the back of poor television angles, because poor Diarmuid was banned for something more obvious, is pointless. The late tackle by Colm Boyle yesterday was, at the very least, a black card and in my opinion deserved a red. This was actually highlighted by Spillane last night so I don't see that anyone is making allowances for Boyle. Connolly deserved his ban under the rules, even though I felt at the time the suspension was too long for an offence at the less serious end of the scale. Regardless of Andy being a nice guy and having a personal loss recently, if it says in the referees report that he physically made contact then he will also be banned. Jason Sherlock to, will be banned after yestedays little altercation with the Galway lad as McEntee was banned for something similar a few weeks ago. Won't make any difference to the Dubs though, just one less body on the sideline. As for the "hands on Maurice Deegan" heading, I presume that refers to Andy shaking hands with him as he left the field!" Or by looking at the footage with your eyes!! DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 19/03/2018 13:04:18 2085786 Link
Don't think anyone is disputing Connolly ban what is obvious is the difference in the media coverage the media went into meltdown with Connolly in my opinion Moran was worse it will be very interesting to see if anything comes of it. It looks black and white should be a 12 week ban. jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 19/03/2018 13:05:51 2085787 Link
If there is to be any sense of equal justice in the GAA both Andy M and Jason S have to face what others have faced previously for similar offences. And to be fair both Andy and Jason S were treated very leniently by media so far... commander (Kildare) - Posts: 225 - 19/03/2018 13:22:54 2085794 Link
Replying To The_Fridge: "Boyle's hit on HP McGreary was very different to McNulty's on Keegan. McNulty was going for the ball and mistimed his shoulder on keegan by milliseconds. Boyle could off clearly backed out his "tackle". The ball was away and Boyle clearly intended to take out the Tyrone player. Which he did and amazingly only got a yellow while McNulty got a red." Have a look at it again, McNulty clearly sees Keegan coming and lifts his elbow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_H8xgQYaZw As regards Andy, if he jostled a match official then he can expect some sort of disciplinary action, and rightly so. Likewise, Boyle deservedly went. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 19/03/2018 13:30:25 2085798 Link