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As someone who is making their first steps as a ref, are they any more experienced club referees who could give some advice? Watches to get? Training? warm ups? Whistles? etc
Thanks

leftandwide (Meath) - Posts: 91 - 28/02/2018 13:48:57    2081226

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Replying To leftandwide:  "As someone who is making their first steps as a ref, are they any more experienced club referees who could give some advice? Watches to get? Training? warm ups? Whistles? etc
Thanks"
Implement the rule book and nothing else. Never mind "letting fhe game flow". Thats not your job. 2 watchs always. One for stoppages amd keep the other running all the time. 2 whistles also. Anything else feel free to ask.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3582 - 28/02/2018 13:59:41    2081232

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Replying To daytona11:  "Implement the rule book and nothing else. Never mind "letting fhe game flow". Thats not your job. 2 watchs always. One for stoppages amd keep the other running all the time. 2 whistles also. Anything else feel free to ask."
thanks, any specific makes of watches and whistles?

leftandwide (Meath) - Posts: 91 - 28/02/2018 14:01:51    2081234

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Replying To leftandwide:  "thanks, any specific makes of watches and whistles?"
Rolex's

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 940 - 28/02/2018 14:38:07    2081239

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Any basic watches and whistles. Remember all you need in a watch is the stopwatch function. It doesn't need any fancy or special features like GPS or anything. One watch to start at the start of each half and the other watch to record the length of stoppages.

Same with the whistle, as long at it can be heard clearly without being deafening then that's all you need.

And remember to let the game flow ;) you can't give frees for everything that could possibly be a foul. Try and have a sensible approach with dealing with the players. Don't be afraid to explain your decision calmly and politely. You'll be respected for that.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 88 - 28/02/2018 14:40:15    2081240

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Not a referee but I would say just apply the rules and try to be consistent. If you are consistent then doesn't really matter if you are that bad or miss a few rules - as long as you are being good or bad equally for the teams on the pitch. I don't mind a bad ref is he is bad for both teams but nothing worse than getting a ref where players and spectators never know when they are going to blow or what for or one who seems to apply the rules for one side only.

Good luck anyway!

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 3668 - 28/02/2018 14:42:24    2081243

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Replying To leftandwide:  "As someone who is making their first steps as a ref, are they any more experienced club referees who could give some advice? Watches to get? Training? warm ups? Whistles? etc
Thanks"
Implement the rule book and nothing else. Never mind "letting fhe game flow". Thats not your job. 2 watchs always. One for stoppages amd keep the other running all the time. 2 whistles also. Anything else feel free to ask.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3548 - 28/02/2018 

And remember to let the game flow ;) you can't give frees for everything that could possibly be a foul. Try and have a sensible approach with dealing with the players. Don't be afraid to explain your decision calmly and politely. You'll be respected for that.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 56 - 28/02/2018 14:40:15

Best of luck leftandwide, you will be needing it all. And patience. And a thick skin.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2205 - 28/02/2018 15:19:45    2081253

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Replying To leftandwide:  "As someone who is making their first steps as a ref, are they any more experienced club referees who could give some advice? Watches to get? Training? warm ups? Whistles? etc
Thanks"
This is frightening! Was none of this gone through in your training??? Or was it all on gumshields?

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1476 - 28/02/2018 15:35:56    2081257

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Replying To leftandwide:  "As someone who is making their first steps as a ref, are they any more experienced club referees who could give some advice? Watches to get? Training? warm ups? Whistles? etc
Thanks"
Also use a bit of common sense although some experts think its not applicable where there is rule book. The best of luck with the whistle and ignore the manager or supporter who think all frees should be given against the opposition.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 1872 - 28/02/2018 15:46:48    2081258

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Pealess fox 40 whistles or Acme thunder whistle. Lorus watches from Argos are cheap and pretty good. Oh and rob a load of the small pencils when you are in there. Never use ink.

Use the advantage rule and call it as you see it.

Any age group below u16 do not use cards.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3582 - 28/02/2018 15:58:03    2081264

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As someone who is making their first steps as a ref, are they any more experienced club referees who could give some advice? Watches to get? Training? warm ups? Whistles? etc
Thanks
leftandwide (Meath) - Posts: 22 - 28/02/2018 13:48:57
Ge a basic stop watch with 2 clocks on it. run a straight clock and stop the other for big stoppages as you dont need to stop clock for everything.
Training will depend on your fitness andwhat level you are refereeing.
For a whistle. In rugby we use acme thunderers. Theyre super.
dont have too much injury time. no need. unless clear and obvious long delays then dont bother with much injury time. i try have minute in first half and maybe two minutes in second unless there was clear incident that meant a longish delay.

Implement the rule book and nothing else. Never mind "letting fhe game flow". Thats not your job. 2 watchs always. One for stoppages amd keep the other running all the time. 2 whistles also. Anything else feel free to ask.
daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3550 - 28/02/2018 13:59:41
You cant just implement the rule book all the time. Otherwise you can have shit shows which benefit nobody.

thanks, any specific makes of watches and whistles?
leftandwide (Meath) - Posts: 22 - 28/02/2018 14:01:51
acme thunderer whistle. no specific watch just any stopwatch

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/02/2018 16:17:19    2081274

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Any age group below u16 do not use cards.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3550 - 28/02/2018 15:58:03
Nonsense. What do do if not use cards then?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/02/2018 16:21:01    2081275

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "Any age group below u16 do not use cards.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3550 - 28/02/2018 15:58:03
Nonsense. What do do if not use cards then?"
In my experience young lads glorify yellow cards. Its like the premier league or something. Explain why you are penalising them. If a chap of 12 or 13 steps to far over the line have him subbed.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3582 - 28/02/2018 16:29:34    2081280

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Look you'll be ok. As i said implement the rule book and use the advantage rule to good effect.

Just dont end up like a rugby ref afraid to make an actual decision or Nigel Owens who never shuts up.

If you are not noticed during a game its a good thing.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3582 - 28/02/2018 16:32:05    2081281

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First foul = a yellow card.

Lay down a marker from the off.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3551 - 28/02/2018 16:55:28    2081284

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Replying To St.Conleth:  "This is frightening! Was none of this gone through in your training??? Or was it all on gumshields?"
Thanks for an example of smartarse comments I'll have to put up with

leftandwide (Meath) - Posts: 91 - 28/02/2018 17:01:55    2081288

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Replying To leftandwide:  "As someone who is making their first steps as a ref, are they any more experienced club referees who could give some advice? Watches to get? Training? warm ups? Whistles? etc
Thanks"
Make sure you wear your gumshield.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 1791 - 28/02/2018 17:03:28    2081290

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Replying To leftandwide:  "Thanks for an example of smartarse comments I'll have to put up with"
You should have a sense of humour as well

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1476 - 28/02/2018 17:43:47    2081297

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An experienced referee was asked for the secret of his success. He gave it in two words "Right Decisions". The young

referee asked how does one arrive at the right decisions. "Experience" was the reply. Persisting the young referee asked

how does one gain experience. "Wrong Decisions" sad the older referee.

Apply the Rules but if anyone can describe "Common Sense" in a way that has universal agreement, then perhaps you will

be on safe ground using that too.

ballagoballa (UK) - Posts: 31 - 28/02/2018 19:14:06    2081313

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fox whistle best in the business, 2 stopwatches, spare pencils in case you lose one during the game, also use pencil as it is easier to see on a wet day plus a pen could let you down other than that do a fare job and enjoy it

mrsme (USA) - Posts: 134 - 28/02/2018 19:30:21    2081316

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