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Replying To DUBJOHN:  "Agreed Yew! I met some lovely Mayo people down there, real true and true Gaa fans and as I've always said if Dublin don't win the All Ireland in any given year I'd love to see Mayo do it, I could only imagine the party that would take place down there, best of luck for the rest of the year!"
I don't know.. Mayo have had their chances.

If Dublin don't win it I'd like to see Monaghan win an AI title.. fairly bloody impressive what they are doing with such a small pool of players.. boxing well above their supposed level

And they have produced some cracking out and out footballers in the last 10 years or so.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 27/02/2018 19:56:30    2081073

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Replying To jimbodub:  "I don't know.. Mayo have had their chances.

If Dublin don't win it I'd like to see Monaghan win an AI title.. fairly bloody impressive what they are doing with such a small pool of players.. boxing well above their supposed level

And they have produced some cracking out and out footballers in the last 10 years or so."
Another way of looking at it is that Mayo earned the right to play in those finals. Name one other county who have beaten all of the top rank counties over the years but who has failed to land the biggest prize?

Last weekend was shadow-boxing at its best, with an under-strength Mayo facing off against a Dublin team keeping plenty in check. As per most seasons, the championship fare will be a lot different.

The priority for Mayo needs to be winning the next two games, as I can't see us winning in Donegal.

A Dublin-Galway NFL final would be very interesting, could see Dublin fielding many of their top guns, as they did in McHale Park.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 27/02/2018 21:37:26    2081100

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Replying To jimbodub:  "I don't know.. Mayo have had their chances.

If Dublin don't win it I'd like to see Monaghan win an AI title.. fairly bloody impressive what they are doing with such a small pool of players.. boxing well above their supposed level

And they have produced some cracking out and out footballers in the last 10 years or so."
Yeh I've been a fan of Monaghan over the last few years in regards achievements against the odds. Thought they were going to test us once or twice in the last couple of years but it didn't turn out like that.
Donegal @28/1 & Monaghan @ 50/1 are the best dark horse prices along with Galway @ 20/1

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 27/02/2018 21:48:55    2081108

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Replying To Gleebo:  "Another way of looking at it is that Mayo earned the right to play in those finals. Name one other county who have beaten all of the top rank counties over the years but who has failed to land the biggest prize?

Last weekend was shadow-boxing at its best, with an under-strength Mayo facing off against a Dublin team keeping plenty in check. As per most seasons, the championship fare will be a lot different.

The priority for Mayo needs to be winning the next two games, as I can't see us winning in Donegal.

A Dublin-Galway NFL final would be very interesting, could see Dublin fielding many of their top guns, as they did in McHale Park."
"as they did in McHale Park"

Haha

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 27/02/2018 22:07:49    2081117

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Replying To realdub:  "Yeh I've been a fan of Monaghan over the last few years in regards achievements against the odds. Thought they were going to test us once or twice in the last couple of years but it didn't turn out like that.
Donegal @28/1 & Monaghan @ 50/1 are the best dark horse prices along with Galway @ 20/1"
It's hard to judge with the unknown realm of the Super 8 this summer

But Monaghan are capable of beating anyone on their day, they were certainly good enough for a semifinal

But the way the backdoor works out sometimes has been unkind to them

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 27/02/2018 22:13:47    2081120

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Replying To realdub:  "Yeh I've been a fan of Monaghan over the last few years in regards achievements against the odds. Thought they were going to test us once or twice in the last couple of years but it didn't turn out like that.
Donegal @28/1 & Monaghan @ 50/1 are the best dark horse prices along with Galway @ 20/1"
Dogenal Monaghan Galway 3 teams together wouldn't beat dublin

Thekid14 (Down) - Posts: 222 - 27/02/2018 22:17:56    2081122

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Replying To jimbodub:  "It's hard to judge with the unknown realm of the Super 8 this summer

But Monaghan are capable of beating anyone on their day, they were certainly good enough for a semifinal

But the way the backdoor works out sometimes has been unkind to them"
The Super 8's could turn up a few repeat fixtures, say if Galway beat Mayo, Mayo make it to the quarterfinal they will play Dublin, both qualify for and win their respective semi's they play each other again in the final. So conceivably we could play Mayo twice in the championship this year. Same goes for the winners of Ulster and runners up in Munster.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 28/02/2018 11:40:17    2081190

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Replying To jimbodub:  ""as they did in McHale Park"

Haha"
Only Byrne, Howard, Scully and McAuley of last weekend's Dublin side didn't play in last year's All-Ireland final.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 28/02/2018 12:58:30    2081206

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Replying To Gleebo:  "Only Byrne, Howard, Scully and McAuley of last weekend's Dublin side didn't play in last year's All-Ireland final."
Forgot Daly and Paddy Small, who came on as a sub.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 28/02/2018 13:02:55    2081209

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Replying To Gleebo:  "Forgot Daly and Paddy Small, who came on as a sub."
Emmet O Conghaile and Colm Basquel?

So apart from Byrne, Howard, MDM, Daly, Paddy Small, Basquel and Big Emmet.

So apart from that. :)

P.S. i thought Scully came on in the final.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 28/02/2018 13:27:00    2081218

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Replying To jimbodub:  "I don't know.. Mayo have had their chances.

If Dublin don't win it I'd like to see Monaghan win an AI title.. fairly bloody impressive what they are doing with such a small pool of players.. boxing well above their supposed level

And they have produced some cracking out and out footballers in the last 10 years or so."
Ah come on jimbo have ya no soft spot for us out west?

Would love to see Monaghan win an all ireland they have been one of the best teams in the country under orourke and they gave a good account of themselves under Banty against the kingdom going back 10 years ago. Need to keep a bit more discipline though the games against Tyrone when they were knocked out in the last few years they let them get under their skin and lost there discipline given the rugby tackles and hair shuffling of course.

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 01/03/2018 08:57:07    2081378

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Replying To realdub:  "Yeh I've been a fan of Monaghan over the last few years in regards achievements against the odds. Thought they were going to test us once or twice in the last couple of years but it didn't turn out like that.
Donegal @28/1 & Monaghan @ 50/1 are the best dark horse prices along with Galway @ 20/1"
Monaghan big price for a reason..they play their best football around this time of year..as history shows us with monaghan their brutal in croker come championship time.

GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 01/03/2018 09:55:45    2081384

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Emmet O Conghaile and Colm Basquel?

So apart from Byrne, Howard, MDM, Daly, Paddy Small, Basquel and Big Emmet.

So apart from that. :)

P.S. i thought Scully came on in the final."
This was Dublin's team last September:

Stephen Cluxton; Philly McMahon, Cian O'Sullivan, Michael Fitzsimons; Jonny Cooper, John Small, Jack McCaffrey; Brian Fenton, James McCarthy; Ciaran Kilkenny, Con O'Callaghan, Paul Mannion; Paddy Andrews, Eoghan O'Gara, Dean Rock. Subs: Paul Flynn for Jack McCaffrey (9), Kevin McManamon for Paddy Andrews, Diarmuid Connolly for Eoghan O'Gara (both half-time), Bernard Brogan for Paul Flynn (65), Niall Scully for Con O'Callaghan (67), Cormac Costello for Paul Mannion (74).

Most of those players either started or came on last Saturday.

Mayo's team for last September's decider:

David Clarke; Brendan Harrison, Donal Vaughan, Chris Barrett; Paddy Durcan, Keith Higgins, Colm Boyle; Seamus O'Shea, Tom Parsons; Kevin McLoughlin, Aidan O'Shea, Lee Keegan; Jason Doherty, Cillian O'Connor, Andy Moran. Subs: Diarmuid O'Connor for Seamus O'Shea (50), Stephen Coen for Colm Boyle (55), Conor Loftus for Andy Moran (63), David Drake for Jason Doherty (70), Danny Kirby for Kevin McLoughlin (74), Ger Cafferkey for Keith Higgins (75)

Mayo were missing the following players on Saturday: David Clarke, Brendan Harrison, Chris Barrett, Paddy Durcan, Keith Higgins, Tom Parsons, Donal Vaughan, COC.

Lee Keegan and SOS played, but were playing their first games since returning from injury.

Nice and digestible for ye Dubs to understand ;)

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 01/03/2018 11:27:11    2081396

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Gleebo

Is that 14 or 15 games now?

You know regardless of who's playing that Mayo have failed to beat Dublin.

3 in a row away wins for Dublin in McHale Park and Dublin didn't have to do much to win handily.

I'd be more concerned about Mayo's current form and trying to stay up, and well also on the evidence thus far the complete lack of any sort of decent talent coming through rather than trying to paper over the cracks and going on about who was playing for Dublin..

That's what I meant when I went "Haha"

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 01/03/2018 11:57:06    2081407

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Gleebo

Although credit to Mayo even without winning any silverware under Rochford

On the "moral victory" front.. Mayo are streets ahead of Dublin

Yiz are the Kerry of the moral victory world

:)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 01/03/2018 12:06:44    2081409

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Replying To Spoddgy:  "Ah come on jimbo have ya no soft spot for us out west?

Would love to see Monaghan win an all ireland they have been one of the best teams in the country under orourke and they gave a good account of themselves under Banty against the kingdom going back 10 years ago. Need to keep a bit more discipline though the games against Tyrone when they were knocked out in the last few years they let them get under their skin and lost there discipline given the rugby tackles and hair shuffling of course."
No Spoddgy

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 01/03/2018 12:09:18    2081410

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Replying To Gleebo:  "This was Dublin's team last September:

Stephen Cluxton; Philly McMahon, Cian O'Sullivan, Michael Fitzsimons; Jonny Cooper, John Small, Jack McCaffrey; Brian Fenton, James McCarthy; Ciaran Kilkenny, Con O'Callaghan, Paul Mannion; Paddy Andrews, Eoghan O'Gara, Dean Rock. Subs: Paul Flynn for Jack McCaffrey (9), Kevin McManamon for Paddy Andrews, Diarmuid Connolly for Eoghan O'Gara (both half-time), Bernard Brogan for Paul Flynn (65), Niall Scully for Con O'Callaghan (67), Cormac Costello for Paul Mannion (74).

Most of those players either started or came on last Saturday.

Mayo's team for last September's decider:

David Clarke; Brendan Harrison, Donal Vaughan, Chris Barrett; Paddy Durcan, Keith Higgins, Colm Boyle; Seamus O'Shea, Tom Parsons; Kevin McLoughlin, Aidan O'Shea, Lee Keegan; Jason Doherty, Cillian O'Connor, Andy Moran. Subs: Diarmuid O'Connor for Seamus O'Shea (50), Stephen Coen for Colm Boyle (55), Conor Loftus for Andy Moran (63), David Drake for Jason Doherty (70), Danny Kirby for Kevin McLoughlin (74), Ger Cafferkey for Keith Higgins (75)

Mayo were missing the following players on Saturday: David Clarke, Brendan Harrison, Chris Barrett, Paddy Durcan, Keith Higgins, Tom Parsons, Donal Vaughan, COC.

Lee Keegan and SOS played, but were playing their first games since returning from injury.

Nice and digestible for ye Dubs to understand ;)"
Jack McCaffery, Paddy Andrews, Bernard Brogan, Con O' Callaghan, Philly McMahon, Eric Lowndes, Cormac Costello, Paul Flynn, Eoghan O Gara.

Thats about 50 all Ireland medals that didn't get a stretch of the legs on Saturday mate.

Dublin approach to the league is they rotate games, i.e. every big player gets about two games i.e a Flynn. Connolly Andrews etc. Rotated back out.

The young lads are given game time this year we have had: Howard, Basquel, Paddy Small and O Shea, O Conghaile all U21 all Irealand winners.

A core group of J McCarthy, Kilkenny and Brian Fenton play every game because they are beasts and are still very young (crazy isnt it). Cluxton is playing because he is cracking the new rule. Have to say i was surprised Clarke wasn't given his kicking is an area of his game that isnt his strongest.

Everyone thinks Dublin always play their strongest team, truth is they dont, they dont have one. What is deceptive is that their is hardly a layer in the panel without significant haul of titles and all Irelands. Many of our fringe players have a haul of three and are household names.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 01/03/2018 12:43:02    2081416

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Jack McCaffery, Paddy Andrews, Bernard Brogan, Con O' Callaghan, Philly McMahon, Eric Lowndes, Cormac Costello, Paul Flynn, Eoghan O Gara.

Thats about 50 all Ireland medals that didn't get a stretch of the legs on Saturday mate.

Dublin approach to the league is they rotate games, i.e. every big player gets about two games i.e a Flynn. Connolly Andrews etc. Rotated back out.

The young lads are given game time this year we have had: Howard, Basquel, Paddy Small and O Shea, O Conghaile all U21 all Irealand winners.

A core group of J McCarthy, Kilkenny and Brian Fenton play every game because they are beasts and are still very young (crazy isnt it). Cluxton is playing because he is cracking the new rule. Have to say i was surprised Clarke wasn't given his kicking is an area of his game that isnt his strongest.

Everyone thinks Dublin always play their strongest team, truth is they dont, they dont have one. What is deceptive is that their is hardly a layer in the panel without significant haul of titles and all Irelands. Many of our fringe players have a haul of three and are household names."
WhatDublin fringe players are household names?

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1746 - 01/03/2018 12:53:53    2081420

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Replying To thelongridge:  "WhatDublin fringe players are household names?"
The Dublin bench for last years all Ireland final:

Paul Flynn
Diarmuid Connolly
Kevin McManamon
Bernard Brogan
Niall Scully
Cormac Costello

Only Connolly i think is a guaranteed starter as the crow flies.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 01/03/2018 13:04:11    2081424

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Mayo had 7 u21 All Ireland players playing the last night, 4 starting 3 came on so they are trying new lads, whether they are up to senior football we wont know for a year or 2..
Dont know what to make of Stephen Coen,
I wouldnt be too bothered about relegation in the league cause really what does it matter, Mayo dont ever seem too bothered about the league anyways.

Its not moral victories, Mayo have always over achieved and to be putting it up to supposdly the best team ever for 3 years now and should have beaten them last year. Supporters cant blame the players cause really they know there over achieving and will look for other excuses.

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 602 - 01/03/2018 13:31:38    2081429

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