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In fairness this petition probably won't make much difference, but it's a good idea because without it things will definitely not change.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 29/01/2018 11:19:34    2071837

The coverage of the leagues over the weekend just reconfirmed to me that GAA coverage needs to be shaken up even more and rights given out to more channels. Saturday night on Eirsports was great, and TG4 coverage great also with live and deferred matches. Plenty replays of live games and highlights packages during the week too on these channels.

What do we get from RTE? Same tiered old league Sunday format trying to squeeze all games into 90 minutes and you end up getting nothing really.. highlights are too short and analysis is superficial as they have no time. There used to only be a few weekends in the league where there was both Hurling and Football, but it is going to be nearly every weekend now. How have RTE adapted to this? Zero change...same old 1970's Match of the day format.

Big problem here is going to be when the new championship format kicks in. There will be heaps of games over May and June with plenty Hurling and football, but I'm sure RTE will be sticking to the same old 60 / 90 minute Sunday Game format so we will get useless highlights and analysis of the many games which will not be live.

People are mad to watch football and Hurling all year. Look at the crowds at games in January. Eir and TG4 have cottoned on to this and are upping their game as described above and showing plenty live club games. It does not seem to have dawned on RTE that there is a big demand.

I moved my internet over to Eir so I'd get Eir sports. I'm sure plenty people are doing the same

Cupotay (Donegal) - Posts: 31 - 29/01/2018 11:40:58    2071851

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2845 - 29/01/2018 11:43:23    2071853

dont agree with it, eir and sky are putting r t e to shame with theis fantastic presentation, long may it continue, it might prompt r t e to stop taking us for granted, though id doubt it, id give the whole lot to sky , feck r t e, they only want rugby anyway
Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - 29/01/2018 11:43:23If they only wanted rugby then why have they lost the majority of their rugby coverage.

RTE coverage is ok. Its not fantastic. How are they taking the GAA and gaa supporters for granted?
Theyve lost most of their sport that isnt surprising considering budget deficits up there. Just look at BBC and how theyve lost so much sport over the years and they are far larger with much greater resources than RTE

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/01/2018 12:07:07    2071872

Cupotay (Donegal) - Posts: 31 - 29/01/2018 12:34:44    2071890

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 29/01/2018 12:38:21    2071892

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 29/01/2018 12:41:07    2071895

What panic was on RTE trying to show a number of highlights and failing on all of them, why in the name of God don't they do a Division 1 and 2 show on Sunday nights and a Division 3 and 4 in Mondays, when we have both codes do a 2hr or 2 and a half hour programme, better off doing that type of programme than the current nonsense, why are they punishing lower division teams by not showing them, do they not pay a TV licence, the biggest gripe I have is Eir showed games on Saturday, TG4 had a live and deferred game on Sunday so why do RTE start showing the same games again, surely the other games should have got first showing followed by a brief clip of the televised games, no point showing major coverage of the same game twice

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 29/01/2018 12:52:25    2071905

i wont be signing up anyway. I enjoy my few tins and the league been on tele on a Saturday night.

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 29/01/2018 13:32:27    2071936

Irish people living abroad will have to pay one way or another, whether you watch games on Sky, Premier Sports, GAA Go or down the pub, so this motion wouldn't affect myself as it would others.

The pay per view model has been in for quite some time anyway, think it's been ten years or more since they sold the rights to show NFL games.

The bigger problem is that GAA HQ seem to have been so distracted by commercial opportunities that they've restructured the entire GAA calendar to suit the elite 5% of GAA players, with everyone else having little idea of when they'll be able to play their most important games.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 29/01/2018 13:46:57    2071944

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 29/01/2018 16:02:32    2072033

NO NO NO NO NO TO an RTE monopoly.

They did nothing for the game when they had all rights.

Look at what TG4 and EIR are doing.

RTE showed 000000 interest in the club games, the U21s, the Ladies games etc etc.

And good God the RTE analysis, especially with the 3 stooges, is null

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 29/01/2018 16:11:45    2072039

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 706 - 29/01/2018 16:38:25    2072054

How come every time people complain about the pay per view approach they only mention Sky and never seem to raise any issue about Eir showing league games?

Surely if there's that much of an issue with pay per view then people should be just as upset about Eir showing games as they are Sky?

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 29/01/2018 16:56:01    2072063

More rubbish from RTE pundits, I nearly pissed myself laughing when I saw Brolly and Duignan's names in particular at the end. Sky are RTE's competition in this market and RTE are apparently leading the charge against Sky.....how does this keep getting missed/ignored by some people?

Anyway RTE is not free, ok it's not as expensive as Sky but you're not obliged to pay for Sky, you more or less are for RTE and the majority of its content is rubbish anyway!

Worth noting aswell that RTE show 31 championship games (they aparently have no interest in the leagues), including all football and hurling provincial finals, all football and hurling all-ireland semi-finals and both all-ireland finals. Sky has 14 exclusive games, pretty poor in comparison!

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 29/01/2018 17:32:39    2072077

It's daft suggesting that a 90 minute 'highlights' program isn't enough. With more & more games in more condensed timeframes, it's becoming increasingly impossible to cover even a fraction of the volume that's on these days. A dedicated 24/7 GAA channel, if it had the resource/subscribers, would definitely have the volume of fresh subject matter, just like the NFL, NBA. Golf channel etc.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3456 - 29/01/2018 17:55:22    2072089

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 29/01/2018 17:57:43    2072091

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 29/01/2018 18:31:12    2072108

"RTE coverage is OK" - That's not exactly a ringing endorsement. Yes they have lost the rights to many sporting events, and a lot comes down to money for the international events. I'm not sure that is the real problem with the GAA coverage though. They have never seemed to show interest in televising live league games. They do have the rights to highlights but the highlights program last night was a very poor effort I thought compared to what went before it on other channels over the weekend.
My worry now is for the championship under the new structures. RTE have the lions share of the rights and if they go with the same format as previous years then its hard to see how they can give decent coverage to so many games in May and June.
For me, this is not an argument of GAA v other sports or anything like that. I like many others want to see good coverage of all the GAA action and if that means giving the rights to other channels who have the time and will to give that coverage then I'm for it. Also don't mind paying a few quid for it either.
Cupotay (Donegal) - 29/01/2018 12:34:44Its fine. They have had significant reductions in income so sport naturally will be cut quite a bit. What would you consider as a decent coverage anyway? RTE never have shown live league games but that isnt exactly an issue. TG4 provide excellent coverage but that doesnt mean RTE should have to be showing the national league.

What panic was on RTE trying to show a number of highlights and failing on all of them, why in the name of God don't they do a Division 1 and 2 show on Sunday nights and a Division 3 and 4 in Mondays, when we have both codes do a 2hr or 2 and a half hour programme, better off doing that type of programme than the current nonsense, why are they punishing lower division teams by not showing them, do they not pay a TV licence, the biggest gripe I have is Eir showed games on Saturday, TG4 had a live and deferred game on Sunday so why do RTE start showing the same games again, surely the other games should have got first showing followed by a brief clip of the televised games, no point showing major coverage of the same game twice
riverboys (Mayo) - 29/01/2018 12:52:25 You seem to think 2 highlights shows would be financially viable? Do attendances at games match up in terms of interest? 5 hours of live tv programme? How much does that cost? Will they really get enough advertising revenue to make it worthwhile?
RTE will show the games which had the cameras at and then show less highlights of the rest. Its the same with a lot of sports and tv coverage. Something to do with rights contracts probably. Worth querying RTE if so interested.

NO NO NO NO NO TO an RTE monopoly.
They did nothing for the game when they had all rights.
Look at what TG4 and EIR are doing.
RTE showed 000000 interest in the club games, the U21s, the Ladies games etc etc.
And good God the RTE analysis, especially with the 3 stooges, is null
witnof (Dublin) - 29/01/2018 16:11:45Do you know for certain RTE had 0 interest in club, u21s or that TG4 simply got in first and were able to renew.

More rubbish from RTE pundits, I nearly pissed myself laughing when I saw Brolly and Duignan's names in particular at the end. Sky are RTE's competition in this market and RTE are apparently leading the charge against Sky.....how does this keep getting missed/ignored by some people?
Anyway RTE is not free, ok it's not as expensive as Sky but you're not obliged to pay for Sky, you more or less are for RTE and the majority of its content is rubbish anyway!
Worth noting aswell that RTE show 31 championship games (they aparently have no interest in the leagues), including all football and hurling provincial finals, all football and hurling all-ireland semi-finals and both all-ireland finals. Sky has 14 exclusive games, pretty poor in comparison!
Htaem (Meath) - 29/01/2018 17:32:39Sky Sports is multiples of the cost of RTE. Cant be compared.

It's daft suggesting that a 90 minute 'highlights' program isn't enough. With more & more games in more condensed timeframes, it's becoming increasingly impossible to cover even a fraction of the volume that's on these days. A dedicated 24/7 GAA channel, if it had the resource/subscribers, would definitely have the volume of fresh subject matter, just like the NFL, NBA. Golf channel etc.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - 29/01/2018 17:55:22


I'd agree that its a bit daft for League Sunday to show extended highlights of the same games that have already been shown live, especially those on TG4 which is available to the majority of fans (don't think it's readily available in NI but am open to correction there), let alone those games shown in Eir Sports. I appreciate that its cheaper for RTE to let Eir / TG4 provide the footage rather than sending out their own cameras and crew and that they have a finite budget which they have to try and stretch as far as possible but the premise is that RTE is a public service provider and should objectively cater for all residents. By effectively ignoring the lower divisions, its fair to say they fail in that regard, from a sporting provision regard anyway.
Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - 29/01/2018 17:57:43

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/01/2018 19:59:53    2072153

Sports is multiples of the cost of RTE. Cant be compared.

Course they can, look above, I just did it, check and mate :-)

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 29/01/2018 20:56:25    2072179