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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "Have to agree. Lot of nonsense talked about changing the Senior Championship format will improve Meath. Complete load of tripe. When we start producing more quality underage players and bring them through , get rid of horrer coaches over Meath Development squads or else get rid of Meath Development squads altogether because with shocking coaches over teams they offer no value, then The Meath Senior Championship and Senior Team will improve."
I agree 100%. I've been around meath underage development squad for a while now and I have to say so very poor coaches are involved..on top of that players from bigger clubs definitely have a better chance of getting selected.ive seen plenty of top young players not making county underage team because they are playing division's six club football or with a rural club

bobjaffacake (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 15/04/2018 14:40:08    2093100

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why has brien conlon left the panel

meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 15/04/2018 16:08:32    2093107

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Replying To ISupposeSoSheehan:  "Wouldnt be surprised if McKeever followed his club mates Tobin and Conlon who is his cousin. Hopefully Padraig continues as we need free scoring forwards like him on the panel."
Mckeever has left also

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 888 - 15/04/2018 16:45:51    2093113

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Anyone know when squad for championship will be named? Put a end to all the speculation once and for all

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/04/2018 18:00:00    2093122

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Anyone know when squad for championship will be named? Put a end to all the speculation once and for all"
why are so many players leaving the panel. David toner and brien conlon for sure

meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 15/04/2018 18:09:57    2093123

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Replying To meath1977:  "why has brien conlon left the panel"
Differences of opinion with management is what I'm told

RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 15/04/2018 18:11:32    2093124

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Replying To bobjaffacake:  "I agree 100%. I've been around meath underage development squad for a while now and I have to say so very poor coaches are involved..on top of that players from bigger clubs definitely have a better chance of getting selected.ive seen plenty of top young players not making county underage team because they are playing division's six club football or with a rural club"
Definitely agree with you about players playing with a bigger club having a better chance of making an underage county team, it seems to be improving in recent years but still work to be done. And I do acknowledge it is tough to see every player at a certain age.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 15/04/2018 18:58:50    2093131

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Replying To RoylerKing:  "Differences of opinion with management is what I'm told"
thanks for answer it looks like that

meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 15/04/2018 19:17:36    2093134

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Anyone know when squad for championship will be named? Put a end to all the speculation once and for all"
What speculation......tobin conlon mckeever Rooney dardis toner all left the panel

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 888 - 15/04/2018 19:47:20    2093138

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "What speculation......tobin conlon mckeever Rooney dardis toner all left the panel"
Have you got a link??
Excuse my speculation but im sure you remember early in this thread we were told that keoghan menton, Reilly, lenihane had all left panel after a difference of opinion with management.
So I'm sure you can understand people been wary. Until we see conclusive proof. Have you got a link to where they have left?

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/04/2018 20:22:22    2093145

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Have you got a link??
Excuse my speculation but im sure you remember early in this thread we were told that keoghan menton, Reilly, lenihane had all left panel after a difference of opinion with management.
So I'm sure you can understand people been wary. Until we see conclusive proof. Have you got a link to where they have left?"
Hah....i don't recall anybody saying anything about menton Reilly or lenihan..maybe I missed a massive chunk of messages.....yes keoghan was supposed to miss the league alright and them rumours were clearly wrong

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 888 - 15/04/2018 23:01:10    2093173

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "Hah....i don't recall anybody saying anything about menton Reilly or lenihan..maybe I missed a massive chunk of messages.....yes keoghan was supposed to miss the league alright and them rumours were clearly wrong"
They were all mentioned in various threads. So you can see why people are wary of these rumors, not saying you not correct, but these sort of things do the rounds every year.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/04/2018 00:47:33    2093185

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Replying To royaldunne:  "They were all mentioned in various threads. So you can see why people are wary of these rumors, not saying you not correct, but these sort of things do the rounds every year."
I don't ever recall reading or hearing about Lenihan or Reilly leaving the panel

RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 16/04/2018 08:38:01    2093195

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Replying To royaldunne:  "They were all mentioned in various threads. So you can see why people are wary of these rumors, not saying you not correct, but these sort of things do the rounds every year."
Yea I agree ....ya do.....and he did say he thinks 2 of them will be coaxed back

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 888 - 16/04/2018 10:44:49    2093217

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Have sneaky suspicion that some of the players mentioned will feature in the Championship, after this weekend it is back to the county training, from talking to lads, there was a lot of frustration about not been able to train with their clubs last week, and having to do a bleep test last monday night after a tough championship weekend, I think heads will calm down, some of the lads did not feature in the League at all so no surprise they have pulled the plug,

longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 325 - 16/04/2018 11:15:48    2093222

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "Yea I agree ....ya do.....and he did say he thinks 2 of them will be coaxed back"
I'd say so. Can't see them putting in that effort since October and on the eve of championship walk away.
I could be wrong. But I'd say most will be back.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/04/2018 11:51:16    2093229

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You are wrong about the day they did the bleep test, they did it on Wednesday and Sean Tobin has not left the panel. Harry Rooney, Brian Conlon, David Toner, Eoghan Green and Barry Dardis have left. It is ridiculous that people are even discussing Meaths training programme on this page. Every football county in the country, apart from Dublin, are training at the moment, and so they should be. They cannot take a full month off in the middle of the season and then only have 2 weeks (1 of which is the week of game) to prepare for the first round. The club championships in most counties that are run properly do not take place until August. The club season in meath should run like this:

February (last two weeks) - June (Last week) = AFL, BFL, AHL and BHL (Including finals)
July = Complete month, holidays and prepare for champ
August - October = Football and Hurling championship

For the above to work the following needs to happen

1. Abolish cup competitions (Feis Cup etc)
2. Make SFC, IFC and JFC four groups of four
3. AFL and BFL need to be played on the same weekends, preferably AFL games first. Most teams should have enough to field both and it ensures players who are not making first team but training with them game time at the same time as first team players, and enthusiasm for training will improve as a result.

How the league would work:

example 6 week period:
week 1 - ALF/BLF Round 1
Week 2 - AFL/BFL Round 2
Week 3 - AHL/BHL Round 1
Week 4 - AFL/BFL Round 2
week 5 - AFL/BFL Round 3
Week 6 - AHL/BHL Round 2

The reason for two weeks in a row of football and only one week for hurling is due to there being 13 rounds of football in a season and only 7 in hurling.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 934 - 16/04/2018 12:05:47    2093239

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "You are wrong about the day they did the bleep test, they did it on Wednesday and Sean Tobin has not left the panel. Harry Rooney, Brian Conlon, David Toner, Eoghan Green and Barry Dardis have left. It is ridiculous that people are even discussing Meaths training programme on this page. Every football county in the country, apart from Dublin, are training at the moment, and so they should be. They cannot take a full month off in the middle of the season and then only have 2 weeks (1 of which is the week of game) to prepare for the first round. The club championships in most counties that are run properly do not take place until August. The club season in meath should run like this:

February (last two weeks) - June (Last week) = AFL, BFL, AHL and BHL (Including finals)
July = Complete month, holidays and prepare for champ
August - October = Football and Hurling championship

For the above to work the following needs to happen

1. Abolish cup competitions (Feis Cup etc)
2. Make SFC, IFC and JFC four groups of four
3. AFL and BFL need to be played on the same weekends, preferably AFL games first. Most teams should have enough to field both and it ensures players who are not making first team but training with them game time at the same time as first team players, and enthusiasm for training will improve as a result.

How the league would work:

example 6 week period:
week 1 - ALF/BLF Round 1
Week 2 - AFL/BFL Round 2
Week 3 - AHL/BHL Round 1
Week 4 - AFL/BFL Round 2
week 5 - AFL/BFL Round 3
Week 6 - AHL/BHL Round 2

The reason for two weeks in a row of football and only one week for hurling is due to there being 13 rounds of football in a season and only 7 in hurling."
See previous comments I have made., I agree that we cannot expect to train in October and take April off for the county, our all Ireland final is 23rd May being realistic, We are not in the same stratasphere as Dublin. Was told bleep test was monday, but fair enough if it was wednesday. a lot of sense in your format for the club calender, but it would be very difficult for some teams to field a and b league teams the same weekends in February and March, with Mock exams, injuries, lads on the county panels etc. Certainly should only be max 16 teams in the Senior championship

longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 325 - 16/04/2018 12:27:58    2093248

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "You are wrong about the day they did the bleep test, they did it on Wednesday and Sean Tobin has not left the panel. Harry Rooney, Brian Conlon, David Toner, Eoghan Green and Barry Dardis have left. It is ridiculous that people are even discussing Meaths training programme on this page. Every football county in the country, apart from Dublin, are training at the moment, and so they should be. They cannot take a full month off in the middle of the season and then only have 2 weeks (1 of which is the week of game) to prepare for the first round. The club championships in most counties that are run properly do not take place until August. The club season in meath should run like this:

February (last two weeks) - June (Last week) = AFL, BFL, AHL and BHL (Including finals)
July = Complete month, holidays and prepare for champ
August - October = Football and Hurling championship

For the above to work the following needs to happen

1. Abolish cup competitions (Feis Cup etc)
2. Make SFC, IFC and JFC four groups of four
3. AFL and BFL need to be played on the same weekends, preferably AFL games first. Most teams should have enough to field both and it ensures players who are not making first team but training with them game time at the same time as first team players, and enthusiasm for training will improve as a result.

How the league would work:

example 6 week period:
week 1 - ALF/BLF Round 1
Week 2 - AFL/BFL Round 2
Week 3 - AHL/BHL Round 1
Week 4 - AFL/BFL Round 2
week 5 - AFL/BFL Round 3
Week 6 - AHL/BHL Round 2

The reason for two weeks in a row of football and only one week for hurling is due to there being 13 rounds of football in a season and only 7 in hurling."
See previous comments I have made., I agree that we cannot expect to train in October and take April off for the county, our all Ireland final is 23rd May being realistic, We are not in the same stratasphere as Dublin. Was told bleep test was monday, but fair enough if it was wednesday. a lot of sense in your format for the club calender, but it would be very difficult for some teams to field a and b league teams the same weekends in February and March, with Mock exams, injuries, lads on the county panels etc. Certainly should only be max 16 teams in the Senior championship.

longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 325 - 16/04/2018 12:30:00    2093250

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I agree it would be difficult to field A and B teams in same weekend but not impossible. An alternative to with B League is from April until June to play B League on Wednesday nights mid week while the long evenings are in. We cannot continue the way we are going with fixtures and the complete uncertainty surrounding them. I appreciate the weather has been bad so far this year but the way fixtures are handled at moment is crazy. The A Leagues are very competive now a days and teams take them very seriously and they would work very well from February to June in my opinion, and a bullet proof holiday period of July with no matches fixed will give everyone a breather after the leagues and they would be then hungry as ever for championship in SUMMER weather conditions in August. Nobody wants to play championship this time of year but we have to at the minute due to the ridiculous situation we have with the amount of group games to be played. Playing 5 group games is way over the top and a burden to everyone. If the championships were 4 groups of four you would have the group matches in Football and Hurling complete by the end of August having only started at the beginning, you have your knockout stages in September and finals the first 2 weeks in October. Decent people in Meath have tried twice to get the four groups of four in Meath done, the first time was successful, and then voted back out a month later, which was disgraceful and we are now paying for it as result and again this year they tried to get it in but the grey heads of delegates, who are not in tune with what the problems and concerns of the modern day player, voted against it again. Fixtures in Meath are at breaking point and this reform is needed immediately! Four groups of four guarantees teams FOUR win at all cost Championship matches (Fourth being either QF or relegation play off) and this would only be a good thing for Meath.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 934 - 16/04/2018 12:56:19    2093260

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