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Slaughtneil on the march again

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Tyrone started the club championship in September, and rushed through it. Club players shouldn't be waiting that long to play championship football.

Slaughtneil have evey right to be annoyed. Only 6 days after the Hurling final. Ulster council should be more flexible. Meath, Dublin!,Mayo senior finals haven't been played yet, yet they are flying through provincials in Ulster.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - 24/10/2017 10:58:03    2057472

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Always the way with small teams, that once in a life time taste a bit of success. Form is temporary, class is permanent."
how are Slaughtneil showing no class? What a ridiculous post. They are doing their parish and county proud. I've been to most of their games in Ulster / AI series, both the team and supporters have carried themselves very well. A credit to the association

Seamy_Hendrix (Derry) - 24/10/2017 11:17:56    2057478

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "There's winning and there's being bad winners and last year there official Twitter account displayed the latter, so can't expect everybody to call at their feet when they run it in the teams they beat faces."
put a link up there or post the quote from Slaughtneil's twitter account. Thanks

Seamy_Hendrix (Derry) - 24/10/2017 11:19:13    2057479

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Tyrone started the club championship in September, and rushed through it. Club players shouldn't be waiting that long to play championship football.

Slaughtneil have evey right to be annoyed. Only 6 days after the Hurling final. Ulster council should be more flexible. Meath, Dublin!,Mayo senior finals haven't been played yet, yet they are flying through provincials in Ulster."
Can't agree with you here foolsgold.

In Kilcar we won our first county championship in 24 years last Sunday week, clinched the league for a first double ever last Sunday & travel to Clones to play Scotstown this coming Sunday.

Are we complaining? Bloody sure we're not, we are loving every minute of it as should any club lucky enough to be busy at this time of the year.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - 24/10/2017 11:37:57    2057487

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "Can't agree with you here foolsgold.

In Kilcar we won our first county championship in 24 years last Sunday week, clinched the league for a first double ever last Sunday & travel to Clones to play Scotstown this coming Sunday.

Are we complaining? Bloody sure we're not, we are loving every minute of it as should any club lucky enough to be busy at this time of the year."
Yes. Sneil should be glad they are in the position they are in.
I think the club have done fantastically over the last few years. I'm certainly not a begrudger but complaining about games coming up 6 days after each other isn't on.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - 24/10/2017 12:42:34    2057511

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If Kilcar were in that situation for a couple of years in a row it might be different. It's all new to Kilcar and enjoying the momrnt but the Derry lads haven't had much break.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - 24/10/2017 12:47:57    2057512

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "If Kilcar were in that situation for a couple of years in a row it might be different. It's all new to Kilcar and enjoying the momrnt but the Derry lads haven't had much break."
Fair enough FoolsGold, point taken.

I still think though, if you offered the Slaughtneil lads the choice between being busy every weekend at this time of the year or be out of contention they would go for the former.

Maybe I'm wrong but one game a week doesn't seem like a killer.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - 24/10/2017 13:01:24    2057515

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I think they were mostly annoyed because it's only a 6 day turnaround. Their game against Omagh could easily be played on Sunday instead of Saturday, particularly when they have so many dual players involved. Did they even get to savour their Ulster title win on Sunday???

keeper7 (Longford) - 24/10/2017 16:02:18    2057577

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Replying To keeper7:  "I think they were mostly annoyed because it's only a 6 day turnaround. Their game against Omagh could easily be played on Sunday instead of Saturday, particularly when they have so many dual players involved. Did they even get to savour their Ulster title win on Sunday???"
Savour? How do you mean?

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - 24/10/2017 17:21:44    2057608

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Savour? How do you mean?"
Usually when you win a major trophy you get to enjoy the victory for a day or at least. Most of these boys are straight back training with their footballers.

keeper7 (Longford) - 24/10/2017 17:54:52    2057628

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Replying To keeper7:  "Usually when you win a major trophy you get to enjoy the victory for a day or at least. Most of these boys are straight back training with their footballers."
I'd say they managed a few scoops on Sunday night if everything I have heard about Slaughtneil is true.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - 24/10/2017 19:24:55    2057660

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Replying To keeper7:  "Usually when you win a major trophy you get to enjoy the victory for a day or at least. Most of these boys are straight back training with their footballers."
What would be stopping them from enjoying their victory?

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - 24/10/2017 19:40:10    2057665

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To have a meaningful chance at provincial or All Ireland club titles, it helps if all your internal county rivals, or most of them, are not fit to compete seriously with you. Crossmaglen (up to recently), Dr. Crokes etc. At their peak, I'd have tipped Cross to beat Armagh! Those teams see winning the county as the real start of their run. Counties where no team dominates can never get a run at it; if they do win, they celebrate far too much and they are too satisfied with winning the county. As for scheduling, sure teams can play after 5 or 6 days, no problems. However, if you have two very evenly-matched teams, and one of them has brushed aside weaker opposition a fortnight previously and the other team has come through a hard-hitting replay 6 days beforehand, in the last ten minutes, if the game is still close, the fresher team will have that little bit extra. It's the difference between being out on your feet and being able to run at 3/4 pace. away. Small margins, but they can make a difference. Same thing applies to the scheduling of dual players which will not be to Slaughtneil's advantage if it's a tight game against Omagh. Of course, if they blitz Omagh early on, then in that case it won't matter. But incorrect to say it never matters. I still expect Slaughtneil to win, but if they don't, then the cup has Dr. Crokes' name on it.

essmac (Tyrone) - 24/10/2017 19:53:06    2057671

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Replying To Keep_calm:  "Is it possible you are getting the club mixed up with the county board Twitter account????"
After they beat Vincent's last year they went to town on there Twitter page even posting geography maps of both parishes and listing populations of said geographical areas with jibes attached to it, don't get why they can't just enjoy the win without a need to kick the team they beat while their down.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - 24/10/2017 20:09:58    2057675

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Replying To essmac:  "To have a meaningful chance at provincial or All Ireland club titles, it helps if all your internal county rivals, or most of them, are not fit to compete seriously with you. Crossmaglen (up to recently), Dr. Crokes etc. At their peak, I'd have tipped Cross to beat Armagh! Those teams see winning the county as the real start of their run. Counties where no team dominates can never get a run at it; if they do win, they celebrate far too much and they are too satisfied with winning the county. As for scheduling, sure teams can play after 5 or 6 days, no problems. However, if you have two very evenly-matched teams, and one of them has brushed aside weaker opposition a fortnight previously and the other team has come through a hard-hitting replay 6 days beforehand, in the last ten minutes, if the game is still close, the fresher team will have that little bit extra. It's the difference between being out on your feet and being able to run at 3/4 pace. away. Small margins, but they can make a difference. Same thing applies to the scheduling of dual players which will not be to Slaughtneil's advantage if it's a tight game against Omagh. Of course, if they blitz Omagh early on, then in that case it won't matter. But incorrect to say it never matters. I still expect Slaughtneil to win, but if they don't, then the cup has Dr. Crokes' name on it."
Plenty of exceptions to that theory. Ballyboden St. Enda's footballers spring to mind.

keeper7 (Longford) - 24/10/2017 20:19:15    2057683

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "After they beat Vincent's last year they went to town on there Twitter page even posting geography maps of both parishes and listing populations of said geographical areas with jibes attached to it, don't get why they can't just enjoy the win without a need to kick the team they beat while their down."
Just after doing a bit of googling there, that stuff came from derry gaa twitter and not slaughtneil. But ya, there was certainly no need for that sort of childish carry on that you would expect better from county board.

Keep_calm (Offaly) - 24/10/2017 22:11:44    2057718

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Most clubs would like to be in Slaughtneils position in one code never mind two. Should Slaughtneil lose on Saturday it will be nothing to do with their dual commitments but likely due to the fact that Omagh are a good team.

Paperboy (Tyrone) - 25/10/2017 08:59:22    2057766

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Replying To Keep_calm:  "Just after doing a bit of googling there, that stuff came from derry gaa twitter and not slaughtneil. But ya, there was certainly no need for that sort of childish carry on that you would expect better from county board."
My apologies so I was under the impression it was directly from the club.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - 25/10/2017 12:29:18    2057831

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "My apologies so I was under the impression it was directly from the club."
hill16no1man there you go - https://www.balls.ie/gaa/alan-brogan-358878

iluvspuds (Longford) - 03/11/2017 17:25:42    2060193

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Is that all there is?

Bloody hell, snowflake or what?

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - 03/11/2017 18:22:01    2060208

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