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Tully calls for new competition!!

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Roscommon under 17 manager liam Tuly believes that the gap between under 17 and u20 is to great and there should be a under 19 grade also.
Just talking from what I know but many of the players on the Roscommon team were just 16 and featured for roscommonvs mayo at u16 level, it will be along time before they pull on the Roscommon jersey again and im sure its the same for many counties.

Would people be in agreement that there should be a competitive competition put in place even province wise at U19 level for example to give these lads competitive games?

Many of these players are normally talented at soccer and rugby etc and id be afraid that this is where we will lose some of our GAA talent

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - 31/08/2017 08:56:40    2040994

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I think this could turn into a real issue that needs addressing

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - 31/08/2017 14:55:21    2041186

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Replying To Tarismelting22:  "Roscommon under 17 manager liam Tuly believes that the gap between under 17 and u20 is to great and there should be a under 19 grade also.
Just talking from what I know but many of the players on the Roscommon team were just 16 and featured for roscommonvs mayo at u16 level, it will be along time before they pull on the Roscommon jersey again and im sure its the same for many counties.

Would people be in agreement that there should be a competitive competition put in place even province wise at U19 level for example to give these lads competitive games?

Many of these players are normally talented at soccer and rugby etc and id be afraid that this is where we will lose some of our GAA talent"
I don't understand the need for changing age grades. I know it's because of a concern of burnout of players playing club and/or county, underage, senior and colleges. It's the same gap that was there between minors and U21s. When a player is too old for U17 they're eligible for U20s. I think that means they can only play U20 or senior in the same year and not both ? Why did they just not keep the minors and U21s , have an upper age limit for senior and an U21 cannot be U21 and senior in the same year?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - 31/08/2017 15:18:21    2041202

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I agree u19 is the most important age for keeping people involved.

Minor and u21 should have been merged to u19 and u17 should be a developmental level.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - 31/08/2017 15:22:53    2041203

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Replying To Tarismelting22:  "I think this could turn into a real issue that needs addressing"
Would agree the gap is large. Other sports are competing heavily to attract at this age and younger. FAI now have national leagues at 15/17/19 and are planning one at 13. This is attractive for players who want to be competitive at highest level and will take from GAA panels
especially in weaker counties.
I would argue that they should have maintained the U21 and brought in an U19 grade.

westest (Galway) - 31/08/2017 15:59:35    2041226

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Absolutely it's an issue , elite players whatever the age want to play against the best they are feircely competitive, going back to club as a 16 year old under 20 must seem miles away , the only fear I have in bringing in another competing is how poorly supported the under 17 competition was this year in SOME counties , overall I do feel to have lads and set them free to go back to club only the possibility of them being attracted into other codes remains high

Damothedub (Dublin) - 31/08/2017 17:43:46    2041279

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People talk about how their should be second tier competitions for weaker counties. I feel strongly that having better underage structures at inter county level would be more beneficial to less traditional counties.

I mean also proper competitions where players are getting more than just 1 competitive game guaranteed.

Under 21 is not taken seriously in Antrim for instance, but why would it be. It's 1 match most seasons.

I agree with the poser above that their should be u19 and u21. I think it'd be beneficial too for Antrim to have a junior team. These teams would need to be getting a good 4-5 games guaranteed.

It's difficult with trying to fit everything in around club activity. I really feel that the calendar needs sorted before anything like this is implemented.

Really there needs to be a split club and inter county season. 4 months each. 2 months shared for Provincial and All Ireland club and intercounty preseason (a vastly shortened national league). 2 month off season.

Multiple intercounty grades but every player can only be registered to play in 1 at any time.

During the intercounty season there could be club action but it wouldn't involve the serious club competitions where county players need to be available.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - 02/09/2017 14:30:37    2041817

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I don't think introducing an U19 grade would be worthwhile, not considering the U17 and U20 grade changes from next season.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - 02/09/2017 15:49:04    2041835

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It is a situation that really needs to be discussed. Obviously little thought was given to the probability that young players would simply drift away to other sports, when the changes were brought in.

neverright (Roscommon) - 02/09/2017 16:53:43    2041868

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