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Armagh have played good football at times but to say ulster teams are a joy to watch is a bit of an exaggeration.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 31/07/2017 17:28:23    2026808

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Dublin, in Pat Gilroys All Ireland winning team adapted to playing an Ulster Style of football (remember the Gilroy out banners on Hill 16)
Interestingly Dublin had the quality of players to pull it off and win an All Ireland. Then they changed and reinvented the game under Gavin, it's more of a high tempo game that requires pace all over the pitch and everyone is responsible for attacking and defending.
Ulster teams, are now adapting to this template and yes it is much better to watch.

jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 260 - 31/07/2017 18:08:22    2026834

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Replying To KY4SAM2015:  "Armagh have played good football at times but to say ulster teams are a joy to watch is a bit of an exaggeration."
Yes, so much better watching Kerry hoof long balls in non-stop to a large man(!)

Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - Posts: 285 - 31/07/2017 18:36:58    2026854

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Replying To daytona11:  "Honestly lads, another self loving Ulster v the rest of us thread?

Armagh we good yesterday no doubt. Down as was confirmed yesterday are poor. well beaten by Tyrone and Monaghan.

The jury is still out on Tyrone to be fair. Will they throw off the shackles against a Kerry or Dublin or will they revert to type?

Ulster teams have been strong in the championship to date but lets not forget we aren't yet at quarter final stage. In 6 months time nobody will remember the qualifiers."
"revert to type"......soooooo cringeworthy. You need some new cliched phrases boss. I'd near to reach for a bucket just now.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 31/07/2017 18:59:50    2026863

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There's one or two games that have been spun into a myth that ulster football is negative. People seem most interested in Ulster as it's the most competitive provincial. There have been some terrible games same as everywhere, but if Carlow play Offaly they are just dismissed as poor. The Tyrone V Kerry match in 2003 sticks out most. Tyrone played with intensity and PRESSED Kerry, not sit back. Tyrone were beating them badly and hadn't been in such a position before as a team, so they sat back in the second half. Pat Spillane's bitterness started this whole myth. The most iconic scene is Darragh O'Sé catching the ball on his 45 and being surrounded and being fairly tackled. He then actually fouls to try and escape. It was in his own 45, not attacking. It was similar how Dublin press now. Tyrone were portrayed as being negative wrongly. Tyrone had Cavanagh, Dooher, Cavlan, McGuigan, Stephen O'Neill, Owen Mulligan and Peter Canavan. The backs were good point takers too. The 2005 and 2008 AI finals were brilliant matches ton watch. Under McGuinness Donegal were extremely defensive, but that lessened as the years went by.

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 01/08/2017 11:03:26    2027219

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Its hard to believe that Tyrone v Armagh will be as lacklustre as Kerry v Galway.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 01/08/2017 12:35:31    2027300

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Replying To jonno:  "Dublin, in Pat Gilroys All Ireland winning team adapted to playing an Ulster Style of football (remember the Gilroy out banners on Hill 16)
Interestingly Dublin had the quality of players to pull it off and win an All Ireland. Then they changed and reinvented the game under Gavin, it's more of a high tempo game that requires pace all over the pitch and everyone is responsible for attacking and defending.
Ulster teams, are now adapting to this template and yes it is much better to watch."
First, Ulster teams were vilified for adopting total football (everyone defends, everyone attacks). This was widely viewed as the "end of football and the end of civilisation as we know it".

Second, all good teams, quietly and sensibly, adopt a total football approach; while some prominent traditionalist pundits continued to pretend that only Ulster teams played that way.

Third, now that not even the most blinkered nostalgia-peddler can credibly deny that all teams either play or try to play "total football", the problem for Southern pundits is how to start praising a system of play that they've up to now been rubbishing, without looking like fools and hypocrites. Solution: start saying that the Southern teams may have adopted the Ulster approach, but the Southern teams (who officially before this never did it) are now, guess what, "doing it so much better". So, a circle is squared and Southern superiority is preserved.

Next instalment: Ulster teams revert to man-to-man, hit and hope football; and are vilified by all ...

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 01/08/2017 12:40:02    2027302

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Replying To Iamlegion666:  "Yes, so much better watching Kerry hoof long balls in non-stop to a large man(!)"
I agree cant beat the aul kick passing now and again instead of handpassing it back and forth til the cows come home

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 01/08/2017 18:32:49    2027559

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