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Kildare V Armagh

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Replying To Armaghman2002:  "Just made an account to see what people were saying after no one gave us a chance. I know gaa is massive everywhere but in Armagh we are so passionate it's unbelievable. We have good team coming through still very young so we aren't far away. Getting to quarter final is are all Ireland win. Although would not be scared of Tyrone. Fair play Kildare lads use are a great bunch of people and a top top team. Use are like everyone in Armaghs second county cuz of geezers routes there. No doubt use will be back. Two great games that's what the Gaa is all about! Can't beat it"
Who do you think you are coming on here with your positive attitude and complementary tone young bucko ! We'll soon knock that out of you.
Well done yesterday by the way, now less of that stuff on here please.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 30/07/2017 12:52:27    2025830

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Replying To Soma:  "A really enjoyable game of football with some excellent scores. Great to see teams going back to playing a more traditional style and everyone of the near 40000 there today got great enjoyment and total commitment from those on the field. None of them are likely to win Sam this year but sport is about a lot more than silverware thankfully."
Just wait to next weekend to you see Tyrone playing. Ultra ultra defensive. Horrible. But they rely on turnovers inside their own half and break at serious pace. Certainly not pleasant on the eye and only kick it to score. If Armagh draw Tyrone they won't be able to play that brand of football.

DooReg (Armagh) - Posts: 33 - 30/07/2017 12:54:19    2025831

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Replying To catch22:  "Anyone thinking Kildare were unlucky are deluding themselves.Shooting was awful.
Missed too many opportunities
and Armagh took theirs and were better side for most of the game."
Spot on. All to often the wrong choice was taken. Goalie lucky not to be blacked. A weak bench and left Jamie Clarke with the run of proceedings.

We have probably 3-4 players when it comes to this stage just aren't up to it. I'm not going to name them on the national forum yet.

Yesterday was nothing to do with luck.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 30/07/2017 13:23:25    2025844

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Replying To DooReg:  "Just wait to next weekend to you see Tyrone playing. Ultra ultra defensive. Horrible. But they rely on turnovers inside their own half and break at serious pace. Certainly not pleasant on the eye and only kick it to score. If Armagh draw Tyrone they won't be able to play that brand of football."
Obviously not a follower of football - Tyrone one of the best footballing sides out there at minute and top 3 in Ireland. However I'm glad to see that Armagh have started to abandon their normal boring and cynical style including their famous third man tackling - they need to continue in their progression and be less reliant on Clarke otherwise they will struggle against Dubs or Tyrone - but I would also suggest Clarke has never played well against the really big boys and if this is the same next week Armagh will be in big bother.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 30/07/2017 13:30:00    2025847

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Replying To browncows:  "No posters who knows anything about football should be on this tread criticising Kildare . It was an excellent game of football and good advertisement for the game, someone has to lose as that is the nature of sport. The best of luck to Armagh and hard luck to Kildare."
I am not too sorry seeing people giving Kildare stick. They have been annoying people on the Meath page forum since our match with them and boasting how they are operating at so much of a higher level than Meath regardless what topic we are discussing. That's why some Meath people are on here having a go at them. The previous 2 championship meetings previous to this year we won easy and moved on as it was not a big deal for us yet when they beat up they live off it for a long while. Well since then in their 2 games Dublin had them beat after 15 minutes and they have been knocked out by a division 3 team. Even after this they still see themselves as one of the better teams in the country, like the Emperor who thought he had a beautiful new suit.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1354 - 30/07/2017 13:53:59    2025855

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Replying To catch22:  "Anyone thinking Kildare were unlucky are deluding themselves.Shooting was awful.
Missed too many opportunities
and Armagh took theirs and were better side for most of the game."
I'd fully agree with that. You can't say you were unlucky if you don't take your chances and we didn't take ours while Armagh kicked some great scores, especially one near the end from well out close to the sideline. They defended better too. No luck involved, just lost to a better team.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 30/07/2017 13:58:20    2025857

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "I am not too sorry seeing people giving Kildare stick. They have been annoying people on the Meath page forum since our match with them and boasting how they are operating at so much of a higher level than Meath regardless what topic we are discussing. That's why some Meath people are on here having a go at them. The previous 2 championship meetings previous to this year we won easy and moved on as it was not a big deal for us yet when they beat up they live off it for a long while. Well since then in their 2 games Dublin had them beat after 15 minutes and they have been knocked out by a division 3 team. Even after this they still see themselves as one of the better teams in the country, like the Emperor who thought he had a beautiful new suit."
People read the Meath page????

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 30/07/2017 14:00:21    2025859

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Replying To waynoI:  "Whether you meant this as a joke or whatever only you know, what I will say is that it is the absolute height of irony for you to come on here and kick the Kildare lads when they are down after losing a very hard fought close battle, when that very same Kildare side made a mockery of your lot earlier in the championship. On that day in Tullamore Kildare pocketed you guys and you lay down and you died, You guys showed absolutely no passion, no guts ... nothing, You hid away and you went down with a pathetic wimper. You can waffle on about Kildare treating it as an all Ireland, Whether they did or didn't, the fact you didn't match their passion on the day just goes to show everything that is wrong with Meath football and why, as Dr Watson says, Meath are an absolute total and utter irrelevance except to a few cabbages on here who will talk about the Meath tradition and hard men/great players of the past who are of no use to you now to try and big this bang average team up to something they arent and try put themselves on the map again after falling so drastically away, I was at the games tonight and all 4 sides were warriors. Not one went down without a hell of a fight and unfortunately for Down and Kildare, the better team on the day won out. Entertainment wise the games today where absolutely terrific value for money for 25 quid. Armagh fans are immense and bring wonderful colour to Croke Park. Next week will likely sell out and it promises to be a brilliant double header. Dying for it. Roll on tomorrow. This championship has been phenomenal. Great competitive games for the most part. Shock results... Class."
Brilliany post.
The 2 boys had practically nothing to offer on this thread until after the match. Couldn't wait to get the knives in, sad.

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 30/07/2017 14:03:05    2025860

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Replying To Armaghman2002:  "Just made an account to see what people were saying after no one gave us a chance. I know gaa is massive everywhere but in Armagh we are so passionate it's unbelievable. We have good team coming through still very young so we aren't far away. Getting to quarter final is are all Ireland win. Although would not be scared of Tyrone. Fair play Kildare lads use are a great bunch of people and a top top team. Use are like everyone in Armaghs second county cuz of geezers routes there. No doubt use will be back. Two great games that's what the Gaa is all about! Can't beat it"
The feeling is mutual Armaghman. Fantastic Armagh support there last night and a well deserved win. Geezer doing a great job, written allover that performance last night. Best of luck in the next one.

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 30/07/2017 14:06:14    2025862

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Replying To Daith:  "Kildare were very unlucky. The goal was the biggest fluke, they hit the post twice and the decision to disallow the Conway point was an embarrassment to the association. Even if none of those things happened though, Kildare would still have lost by 3 points because it was a tight game and Kildare always choke in tight games.

You're also being too kind saying there is a makings of a team that was just outplayed by a poor Armagh squad who will be playing division 3 football next year. What is the point in a squad putting their lives on hold to get out out by the likes of Armagh? Let's be honest and admit it's the nail in the coffin for that squad."
No way mate, I've seen their last two games live and I've rarely seen a team get at this Dublin team the way Kildare did. Kildare aren't at that standard but certainly it was the most Compeitive Leinster final I've seen a long time and they weren't out of place in that company.

There is loads of headroom for improvement. I think Armagh did a job on them last night and you have to learn how to play against Ulster teams, the breaking bad of momentum, breaking the lines of men behind the ball and their game management. I thought Kildare looked like it was hard for them to lift themselves after the Dublin game.

A year in Div 1 will do this team no harm and I think they have to look seriously at their defensive system, something as simple as getting in lads faces and staying tight could have won the day yesterday. Equally they as a team to vary their approaches in games, when to attack, when to be disciplined when to hold procession, broad game management.

A dissapoining exit, but broadly It's been a great year for Kildare and they deserve their cut at Div 1 next year and will continue to develop from there.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 30/07/2017 14:20:36    2025869

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Great win for Armagh, hard luck Kildare - some wayward shooting let you down, but I felt we played with more conviction

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 30/07/2017 14:52:10    2025892

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Some awful, bitter nonsense being written here. The way some people are talking you'd swear Armagh dominated totally for 75 odd minutes & won by 15-20 points. I'd agree with other posters re: Kildare hitting the post twice & the point being disallowed - it doesn't mean in any way we were unlucky.....but it is however worth mentioning those incidents in the context of pointing out that Kildare lost by a goal, hardly a hiding....and had chances to win it. The disappointing thing is that Kildare didn't play near the same level last night as they had in their 3 championship outings to date. Management need to figure out why & out it right for next year. (though maybe that is harsh on Armagh, maybe it's simply to their credit that we didn't play to that level)

Anyway...best of luck to Geezer & Armagh going forward. Better team on the night & deserved the win no question. Brought great support & I hope you get to enjoy more days out. At least I can enjoy watching Jamie Clarke the next day you play because it was bloody torture last night !

As for Kildare.....disappointing end to a good year. To suggest we have nothing to look forward to is just bizarre to me. We got to Division 1 & a Leinster final & played well when we got there. We've a young team who will only improve. Our two most exciting young forwards, Neil Flynn - who's also our freetaker - & Ben McCormack, were on fire in the early part of the league but ended up playing very little in the championship too so we have them to look forward to as well. (Ben did play yesterday but clearly wasn't 100% after breaking his ankle in the league final)
The team improved hugely from last year to this year. Obviously there's no guarantees they will do so again......but I don't see how anyone can be so convinced they won't either.

KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 30/07/2017 16:22:07    2025967

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Agree about McCormack and Flynn.Big losses.However there was a lack of leadership on the pitch. To be honest , the dearth of genuine inter county quality in the squad. A decent Leinster final but I also feel Dubs had another gear . If you watch any of the club championship in the next few weeks. Its very average fare.

dubya (Kildare) - Posts: 423 - 30/07/2017 16:36:07    2025984

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Replying To KildareKelly:  "Some awful, bitter nonsense being written here. The way some people are talking you'd swear Armagh dominated totally for 75 odd minutes & won by 15-20 points. I'd agree with other posters re: Kildare hitting the post twice & the point being disallowed - it doesn't mean in any way we were unlucky.....but it is however worth mentioning those incidents in the context of pointing out that Kildare lost by a goal, hardly a hiding....and had chances to win it. The disappointing thing is that Kildare didn't play near the same level last night as they had in their 3 championship outings to date. Management need to figure out why & out it right for next year. (though maybe that is harsh on Armagh, maybe it's simply to their credit that we didn't play to that level)

Anyway...best of luck to Geezer & Armagh going forward. Better team on the night & deserved the win no question. Brought great support & I hope you get to enjoy more days out. At least I can enjoy watching Jamie Clarke the next day you play because it was bloody torture last night !

As for Kildare.....disappointing end to a good year. To suggest we have nothing to look forward to is just bizarre to me. We got to Division 1 & a Leinster final & played well when we got there. We've a young team who will only improve. Our two most exciting young forwards, Neil Flynn - who's also our freetaker - & Ben McCormack, were on fire in the early part of the league but ended up playing very little in the championship too so we have them to look forward to as well. (Ben did play yesterday but clearly wasn't 100% after breaking his ankle in the league final)
The team improved hugely from last year to this year. Obviously there's no guarantees they will do so again......but I don't see how anyone can be so convinced they won't either."
Well according to Ziggy it was a very successful year for us, we won two all irelands in the same year:)

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 30/07/2017 16:38:09    2025987

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Replying To dubya:  "Agree about McCormack and Flynn.Big losses.However there was a lack of leadership on the pitch. To be honest , the dearth of genuine inter county quality in the squad. A decent Leinster final but I also feel Dubs had another gear . If you watch any of the club championship in the next few weeks. Its very average fare."
Doyle was a huge loss for us. Led by example all year. Keith Cribbin showed leadership all year too, never drops the head no matter if we're 8or 9 points up or down. Need a couple more like them.

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 30/07/2017 16:51:39    2025996

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Great result for Meath yesterday although they must be worried about Biggy's anonymity against Kildare yet again.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 30/07/2017 16:57:43    2026002

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Replying To if_in_doubt:  "Great result for Meath yesterday although they must be worried about Biggy's anonymity against Kildare yet again."
Biggie was carrying a injury yesterday...picked up a knock in training last Tuesday.


So he did !

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 30/07/2017 17:19:31    2026015

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "Biggie was carrying a injury yesterday...picked up a knock in training last Tuesday.


So he did !"
Brilliant !
I wonder where you got that gem from :)

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 30/07/2017 17:23:29    2026016

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Replying To KildareKelly:  "Some awful, bitter nonsense being written here. The way some people are talking you'd swear Armagh dominated totally for 75 odd minutes & won by 15-20 points. I'd agree with other posters re: Kildare hitting the post twice & the point being disallowed - it doesn't mean in any way we were unlucky.....but it is however worth mentioning those incidents in the context of pointing out that Kildare lost by a goal, hardly a hiding....and had chances to win it. The disappointing thing is that Kildare didn't play near the same level last night as they had in their 3 championship outings to date. Management need to figure out why & out it right for next year. (though maybe that is harsh on Armagh, maybe it's simply to their credit that we didn't play to that level)

Anyway...best of luck to Geezer & Armagh going forward. Better team on the night & deserved the win no question. Brought great support & I hope you get to enjoy more days out. At least I can enjoy watching Jamie Clarke the next day you play because it was bloody torture last night !

As for Kildare.....disappointing end to a good year. To suggest we have nothing to look forward to is just bizarre to me. We got to Division 1 & a Leinster final & played well when we got there. We've a young team who will only improve. Our two most exciting young forwards, Neil Flynn - who's also our freetaker - & Ben McCormack, were on fire in the early part of the league but ended up playing very little in the championship too so we have them to look forward to as well. (Ben did play yesterday but clearly wasn't 100% after breaking his ankle in the league final)
The team improved hugely from last year to this year. Obviously there's no guarantees they will do so again......but I don't see how anyone can be so convinced they won't either."
I had expected Kildare to win yesterday and go on to give Tyrone a right battle, but it might have been a bit much to expect a young team to bounce back from the Dublin game so soon. Major improvement since last year and certainly on an upward curve.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2142 - 30/07/2017 17:56:32    2026043

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Replying To St.Conleth:  "Brilliant !
I wonder where you got that gem from :)"
just a bit of banter :)

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 30/07/2017 17:59:57    2026046

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