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Mcguinness constantly contradicts himself and has to relate everything to soccer it gets boring. He drums on about changing structures because of weaker teams yet doesn't mind scottish league his club celtic being miles ahead of the rest and no competition there or the champions league lumping big guns in same group as no hopers. The vast majority of sports have top player's or teams against bottom player's or team's in major competitions. he is hard to listen to talking aswell it's similiar to the boring voice priest in father ted accept whingier hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/07/2017 23:30:05 2019010 Link 0 |
Tyrone started to get some credit for the team of the last decade only when they had retired and Tyrone were poor and regularly losing again. The wider opinion among casual GAA fans that I speak to, especially in Dublin, as opposed to people who really know their football, is that Tyrone are uniquely thuggish, uniquely negative, uniquely cynical. Whelan's "bad smell" comment isn't that old. See also: "Some of the commentary about Tyrone last week went beyond general sports chatter and veered mightily close to less comfortable territory, some of it borderline xenophobic." See: http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/tipping-point-tyrone-are-the-bogeyman-and-it-s-not-a-pretty-place-to-be-1.2319836 In reality, having followed football for over 40 years, I'd say that all teams are very clean nowadays, apart from the odd rogue here and there; and the actions of such panto villains nowadays attracts OTT commentary for generally fairly minor incidents that, let's face it, wouldn't even have been noticed in the 70s, 80s or 90s. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 18/07/2017 23:34:21 2019013 Link 1 |
think thats somewhat unfair to label him as that in that they did reach the final again after winning sam and it could have gone either way, and he did adapt between 2011 and 2012, his players were pretty limited compared to the opposition
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 18/07/2017 23:55:07 2019016 Link 0 |
and here you are comparing various sports, not hypocritical on your part? gaelic football and hurling arent professional sports so surely we should be doing all we can to avoid the likes of things that happen in professional soccer where theres an elite a million miles ahead of the rest, the structures obviously need to be changed as they are completely outdated, look at the depressing reality for most of the counties outside of the top few, i find him to be an excellent pundit, somebody who actually thinks deeply about the game and has lots of good ideas and doesnt resort to personal attacks like those at rte
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 18/07/2017 23:58:36 2019018 Link 0 |
Some Dublin posters have selective amnesia. Dublin were very defensive under Gilroy and were part of the reason for the 8-6 scoreline in 2011. benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 19/07/2017 00:47:00 2019027 Link 2 |
I reckon you're right, I think we gave Jim the idea, so that 2012 title really belongs to us :D
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 19/07/2017 01:59:52 2019033 Link 0 |
Why are all Donegal posters so unwilling to accept what their style of football is? Why not embrace it and say yes we got our all Ireland in 2012, got to another final in 2014, so in the main that style has been successful. 2012 was obviously a more expansive style than 2011, but that wouldn't be hard! But saying everyone is playing that style or It's a similar style to Dublin or Kerry is just not true. Maybe it makes you feel better to think that. Yes Dublin and Kerry don't play 15 on 15 anymore and they do employ some modern defensive elements in their game but it doesn't mean that they are as defensive as Donegal. HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 19/07/2017 02:16:01 2019036 Link 0 |
Never said we weren't What's that got to do with anything relating to the point I was addressing ? If you're going to come back pretending to be from Dublin at least address me in a manner which actually relates to a point that I'm making. Cheers jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 19/07/2017 07:59:59 2019048 Link 0 |
wouldn't worry about what redmond says to be honest.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/07/2017 08:52:00 2019059 Link 0 |
Could've gone either way doesn't cut it , either you won or you didn't , the one trick is in relation to his inability to design a plan B
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 19/07/2017 08:55:35 2019062 Link 0 |
Could've gone either way doesn't cut it , either you won or you didn't , the one trick is in relation to his inability to design a plan B
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 19/07/2017 08:55:37 2019063 Link 0 |
NO is the easy answer im pointing out a clear reason as to show his ways of contradicting himself by using the other sports which he overlooks to make his point, not hypocritical at all its called giving you my reason as to why i think that way. you say gaa isnt professional but yet mcguinness made a comment that could you imagine match of the day and alan shearer being blamed for getting a suspension for a player but yet he wants amature gaa players criticised personally just like he thinks soccer players are except again his match of the day analogy falls short as they have a policy on that show of only discussing actual sending off cases and not which hunts. every sport has the best beating minnows its a fact of life we just have a media that loves to complain. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 19/07/2017 08:59:56 2019067 Link 0 |
Before casting stones, Charlie should remember the depths that he brought Gaelic games to, when he decided to play on for several minutes after being shown a red card for headbutting an opponent in an AI Final. Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 19/07/2017 09:12:43 2019077 Link 2 |
What has the style of football that Donegal played under JMcG got to do the way Jim Gavin came out in defence of Diarmuid Connolly? I just don't get the connection at all. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 19/07/2017 09:18:32 2019081 Link 1 |
In reality, having followed football for over 40 years, I'd say that all teams are very clean nowadays, apart from the odd rogue here and there; and the actions of such panto villains nowadays attracts OTT commentary for generally fairly minor incidents that, let's face it, wouldn't even have been noticed in the 70s, 80s or 90s. MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 19/07/2017 09:23:33 2019085 Link 0 |
ZING!
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 19/07/2017 09:39:41 2019094 Link 0 |
Charlie spoke in tones suggesting he was some sort of footballing tactical mastermind. Jim might not be everyone's cup of tea but at least he put himself out there and proved his credentials. 3 Ulster titles, an All Ireland plus another All Ireland final appearance in 4 years is not to be sniffed at. Especially considering the low ebb he found the team in the first place. Let Charlie take over an under performing county and bring them to an All Ireland success in two years. It would be the equivalent nowadays of winning an All Ireland with Cork/Down for example by 2019. That says it all for me. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 19/07/2017 09:43:20 2019096 Link 1 |
Forget about Charlie's comments on Jim.. eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1595 - 19/07/2017 10:04:27 2019103 Link 1 |
Laughable from Redmond . TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 19/07/2017 10:37:45 2019123 Link 3 |
Charlie has some mouth on him. pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 19/07/2017 10:38:19 2019124 Link 0 |