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I think was 52. I have met people from Louth still talk about the team of 40s and 50s. Still a team very loved in the wee county. The win in 57 v Cork is one leinsters greatest wins by any county in an All Ireland final. Hopefully the minors will win on Sunday.It would be a massive boost . Louth seniors have a good young team with allot of potential . I wouldn't be surprised to see Louth promoted to Division 1 like Cavan and Roscommon. They key for Louth is the manager they appoint next. I thought Kelly did a real good job. Again in first season bad start, relegated. But he was getting to know players. Two promotions in a row was great progress. If Louth get the right man in charge I think they are team to look out for. Peter Cavanan, Tony McEntee maybe an outside manager. There is potential.
Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 11/07/2017 21:34:47 2015259 Link 0 |
Sad to see meath the way itis now.
Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 597 - 11/07/2017 21:49:23 2015268 Link 0 |
I think only 2 teams have won Sam in the last 20 years outside Division 1. Armagh in 2002 and Galway in 1998. With the league format in one season playing in Division 1 is essential for sucess. It is no coincidence that Kerry and Dublin are the counties with the longest stay in league 1. The other county with a longest stay in Division 1 is Mayo. They have played in 4 All Ireland finals in recent years . They have been at least 15 years in a row in Division 1.( I cannot remeber the last time Mayo were in div 2). It's linked stay in Division 1 sucess will follow. Meath have lost promotion by scoring difference point difference and head to head in 3 of 4 seasons. Promotion has to be possible now. It's the main priority. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 11/07/2017 21:52:28 2015269 Link 0 |
how many teams can win the all-Ireland ? One how many teams can reach the all-Ireland final ? TWO How many can reach the semi-final ? 4 are all the others failures ? Shall we all dissect where they are going wrong ? perhaps it's just cyclical and it's down to the players at your disposal and a little bit to do with the management team and resources and how they are used. Kerry seem to be successful regardless of who manages them. Dublin seem to be fairly successful also. Cork,galway,Mayo and Meath also have periods of success. Tyrone have success under Mickey Harte. There are a few other teams that have success for short periods with a good crop of players : Donegal,Armagh,Down,Monaghan,Roscommon,Kildare,Derry, A few others are currently holding their own in or around the top table: Clare,Tipp. The rest are nowhere. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 11/07/2017 21:54:47 2015270 Link 0 |
Listen congrats to the Rossies. A great win on Sunday . No real surprise. Rossies have some serious young forwards . A definate to watch out for in coming years. The best group of footballers the county has produced since the team in the late 70s. Which in my book is the greatestart never to win an All Ireland. Roscommon is a great gaelic football county. Very little soccer rugby or other sports it's just gaelic football. Great supporters. They have a team that will win more connacht. But I think they have an opportunity to become the dominat force in the west in the next 4 to 5 years . Galway still havent got things sorted out fully . And Mayo have an aging team. That's what the Rossies team
Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 11/07/2017 22:04:05 2015279 Link 1 |
Listen congrats to the Rossies. A great win on Sunday . No real surprise. Rossies have some serious young forwards . A definate team to watch out for in coming years. The best group of footballers the county has produced since the team in the late 70s. Which in my book is the greatest team never to win an All Ireland. Roscommon is a great gaelic football county. Very little soccer rugby or other sports it's just gaelic football. Great supporters. They have a team that will win more connacht. But I think they have an opportunity to become the dominat force in the west in the next 4 to 5 years . Galway still havent got things sorted out fully . And Mayo have an aging team. That's what the Rossies team have to do . Like the team of the 70s. They won 4 or 5 connachts in a row and were unlucky to lose final v Kerry in 80. The Rossies have the forwards to become a force. But like Meath they need to get back to div 1. But yes McStay kept Rossies in div 1 and reached Connacht last year . The season did end badly. And there was allot of disquiet in the county over the winter months. Yes he has been a roaring sucess this year. But to say he was a sucess last year when there was so much criticism last year is a falsehood. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 11/07/2017 22:08:29 2015284 Link 1 |
I think you went on about five furlongs too long there.
HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 11/07/2017 22:18:41 2015292 Link 0 |
Yes the forties and fifties was a golden era for the Wee County. They had won five Leinster titles, one All Ireland, five minor Leinster titles and one minor All Ireland. They should had won more All Ireland titles. But 1957 was Louth's heaven. The smallest county in Ireland beat the biggest county in Ireland.
OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 11/07/2017 22:18:48 2015293 Link 0 |
Oh! go on, make it the mile and I'm with you.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 11/07/2017 22:59:49 2015317 Link 0 |
It was a great period for leinster football with the exception of the late 90s and early noughties. The forties and fifties was the golden age of leinster football. You had great Meath Louth and Dublin teams. You also had excellent Kildare 56 Carlow 44 Laois Wexford teams. It was a competitive provience.The rest of the history of leinster football has been Dublin v 1 rival and the rest well behind. That's what so unusual about the last ten years that Dublin have no rival in leinster. That has never happened before . Even in the 70s Meath and Offaly were a serious opposition for Dublin Dublin and their rivals teams in leinster a short summary kind of below 1920s Dublin and Kildare 1940s 1950 Meath Louth Dublin 1960s Meath Offaly 1970s Dublin Meath Offaly 1980s Dublin Meath 1990s Dublin Meath Late 90s Dublin Meath Offaly Kildare Early noughties Westmeath laois 2005 -2017 Dublin and no one else . First time ever Dublin don't have a rival in leinster. Also the 1955 is the beginning of modern Dublin football. Dublin players winning titles for the Dubs. Before that Dublin teams were full of country lads. In the early 40s Dublin played kerry in a final. The best kerry player was on the Dublin team. The best player on the field was a longford playing for Dublin. Even though Dublin have 6 or 7 hurling All.Ireland. Only 2 or 3 Dubs have senior hurling medals. Dublin hurling and football All Ireland up to 1940s were won by country lads playing for Dublin. The modern Dublin began 1955 in leinster final v Meath. So modern leinster football begins in 1955. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 11/07/2017 23:14:17 2015320 Link 1 |
Still it's an impressive lIst. Probaly up to this decade Meath have produced as many great players as Dublin in the last 70 years. Meath have gone toe to toe with Dublin. From 1940- 2010 Meath won 7 Dublin won 9 All.Irelands. Meath really overachieved. Dublin Only one won 1 All.Ireland every decade with the exception of the 70s when they won 3 and noughties when they won none. Dublin won 1 in the 40s won 1 in the 50s 1 in the 60s 1 in the 80s and 1 in the 90s. For county woth so much resources and power they were undeachieving It's not till this decade that Dublin have reached full potential. And Meath have fallen well behind. Maybe we are the new Cavan time will tell. Dublin are the new Kerry. Time will tell.
Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 11/07/2017 23:22:58 2015325 Link 1 |
the key for meath is trying to keep their best young players in the game. we lose far too many.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 12/07/2017 09:25:44 2015395 Link 0 |
Funny that seen as most of those western farmers did not come up until the 1960's. It was not till the 1980's that the children of the western farmers started getting on the teams.
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1359 - 12/07/2017 18:06:23 2015741 Link 0 |
Sorry now but I like my full back line in forde prendegast Flanagan mold hard to say one full back line was the greatest in an era of great full back lines
Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 12/07/2017 21:02:15 2015816 Link 1 |
Kildare fans on here don't like it being pointed out to them that they never win anything. They are like Tottenham, great team to put on the pressure and yet win nothing. Two Leinsters in living memory and yet they took Mick and Karl O'Dwyer from Kerry. Then you tried the same trick but from Ulster with McGeeney and Seanie Johnson. I see your hurlers were great for some imports this year as well. I hope to god ye give Dublin a great game and if ye beat them I'll be singing aught to be a Lilly all summer long. But the reality is this Meath and Kildare are similar. Two very big counties, record against each other almost 50/50 both football mad. Yet Kildare never win anything LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1464 - 13/07/2017 02:22:22 2015891 Link 0 |
Fair enough. It is hard to say who was the best no doubt. That Mayo full back line was some full back line also. Best way to describe both were two of the greatest full back lines ever in the history of the game. But we do have a great tradition of full backs in Meath from Paddy O Brien in the 40s and 50s Jack Quinn in the 60s Mick Lyons in the 80s and Darren Fay in the 90s. Martin Breheny in the indo did a list of greatest full backs of all time. O Brien Quinn Lyons and Fay were all in his top 6. However he did mention wrongly which is always case. That Joyce ran riot on Fay in the 2001 final. This is factually incorrect. Fay was on Joyce . And took himself of Joyce. Why? He had scored 2 points from play on Fay. This was the first time in 6 years from 1996 to 2001 that a forward scored more then 1 point from play being marked by Fay. It emphiases what an extraordinary defender Fay was. Anyway Mark Reilly took over and Joyce ran riot. With a performance which wil go down as one the greatest individual performances in a final ever. By the time Meath management realised Reilly was on Joyce . The damage was done. And Fay was put back on Joyce. So just to clear up that Fay was not marking Joyce when he put an exhibition of forward play . It was Mark O Reilly. Most people think it was Fay. This is incorrect
Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 13/07/2017 04:50:57 2015893 Link 0 |
*Samuel L Jackson voice* Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 13/07/2017 09:47:05 2015943 Link 0 |
A bit rich, Didnt Meaths new manager activally try and recruit a good few Dubs over the winter.
Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 13/07/2017 10:07:48 2015954 Link 0 |
There's a lot of young people growing up in Meath that have seen Meath win nothing at all and can only hear of stories of the past. I'd rather be a young player growing up in Kildare seeing them win Leinster minors and U21 titles - if I was a bigger football man than hurling man. Although, the fact that I'm a hurling first man I can fully see your point now. Ye have won silverware almost every year in recent times at different levels so maybe I mistook your original point. :D tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 13/07/2017 10:27:03 2015968 Link 0 |
If we are Tottenham, what does that make Leitrim? Accrington Stanley??
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 13/07/2017 15:06:21 2016126 Link 0 |