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Same here, of the two I think Dublin are the more likely to slip-up.
dubdec99 (Dublin) - Posts: 180 - 07/07/2017 14:17:50 2011994 Link 0 |
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A tacit admission of guilt there.
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12121 - 07/07/2017 14:31:29 2011996 Link 2 |
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I agree mate wouldn't be surprised to see Dublin go out in a quarter final or semi, sometimes a young team needs to experience and step back to take a step forward and we need to be gentle in this transitional faze as fans. The invincible team is a thing of the past unfortunately and a new generation is upon us. Its a weird one with Kerry, if Dublin got knocked out they would go on carrying the Dublin monkey on their back in the championship and always open to accusation of just dodging Dublin like Tyrone in the 00's, but they seem to enjoy the 2014 win so who knows what counts for currency in the south west. You feel its a big year for some of the Kerry lads and they will have the bit between their teeth, the likes of James O' Donoghue will be 28 come Sep and with his injury problems you cant see him being fitter the older he gets. You feel its now or never for some of these Kerry lads to have careers of esteem with some of their peers with 4 or 5 celtic crosses. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 07/07/2017 15:04:32 2012012 Link 0 |
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Yerra taking a 50 out of the till is worse than lifting a packet of biscuits off a shelf...
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 07/07/2017 15:05:25 2012014 Link 0 |
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Ya I remember when Cork got relegated from division 1 i was very disappointed as we need a strong Munster championship to make us better, otherwise we'll be going up against the other good counties half baked.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 07/07/2017 15:33:50 2012028 Link 0 |
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A bit like the dubs players from 95 to 2011 eh username? Don't worry your little head about us down here in the south west we should be ok for another 10 years kid. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 07/07/2017 22:03:51 2012173 Link 0 |
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Aye Kingdomboy that username fella used to come across as a fairly balanced poster but lately he seems to be turning into a WUM when discussing Kerry. Already making excuses in case they lose etc., I think the Dubs are scared of the storm brewing in the Kingdom... TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 07/07/2017 22:33:56 2012188 Link 0 |
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unfort Kerry/cork are no rivals in football. We are now 10 years behind Kerry. We dont have Kerry resources and hurling, rugby and soccer are main sports in county. Sure Kerry pool of money be divided around rest of Munster counties. Kerry have 5 senior in a row Munster, this year u21, 5 minor munster and 4 junior and the new u17. The second best team in Munster in Kerry B team. BartMcQueen (Cork) - Posts: 196 - 07/07/2017 22:39:25 2012191 Link 0 |
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Exactly like the Dubs during that period mate. I was surprised by the Kerry team Vs Cork, I thought it was very similar to what it has been over the last few years. There are a lot in that team getting to their late 20s early 30s. I know four or five of have been brought in Barry, Savage, Shanahan look very good, but seems they are being used for depth or being brought on laterally. Don't get me wrong I think Kerry have a great this year, I'm no t so sure it's a great team though in the popular vanavuoar of how it's used. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 07/07/2017 23:33:45 2012216 Link 0 |
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That's a pity you feel that way mate, I try to be balanced and open minded in my opinion, I can't help it if opinion doesn't fit your own narrative. Like I said I think Kerry have a great chance this year for the reasons I've said, I think Dublin are in transition and to win an all Ireland with the youth we are starting with is a tall order in my opinion, but I hope we will be competitive, we are bonus territory really and the team deserves s bit of lee way to develop, I personally am looking at Dublin without expectation and just enjoying the football, we're in bonus territory. The U21 title this year has been a great boost for us. In contrast I think many of the Kerry players are reaching the apex of their careers lads like O'Donohgue, Enright and a few others really need to start winning Celtic crosses to have thoughts of any career of note, while Walsh, Moran, Maher will be deeper into their 30s by the start on next season. I know there are 4 or five young lads brought into the panel. Just feel it's now or never for a lot of this Kerry team. They have a great chance, the competition is far more open this year. Just my opinion. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 07/07/2017 23:45:24 2012220 Link 1 |
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A new young team? Bar Alan Brogan who exactly had retired since 2013, ye look like the same team to me ye always were. So less of the transition plamasin, see the players Kerry lost and the amount nurtured through between 09-16, that's a transition. Plus since when are ye calling yerselves "invincible" did some hack in the Hearld dream up that one to sell a few posters :D TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 08/07/2017 00:20:48 2012232 Link 1 |
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Its a good point mate its actually remarkable the turnover of players since 2011. However what i would say is there has always been a core there on the original 2011 team, when you actually look at the 2011 so many players have changed, but i digress. Dublin are now in phase of rebuilding. In our last game VS Westmeath we had no Philly McMahan, Paul Flynn, Bernard Brogan, Dermot Connolly, Dennis Bastick, John Small, Cormac Costello, Davey Byrne or Michael Dara McCauly either to injury or playing a young player instead. To answer your question since you last beat us in the championship we have lost, Kevin Nolan, Ger Brennan, Alan, Barry Cahill, Brian Cullen, Eamon Fennel, Rory O' Carroll and Paul Mannion and Jack McCaffery took time out. Its remarkable we have been so successful, but i think this year might be a step to far. Look the average age of the Dublin team that started the last day was 26 and that was greatly increased by Steven Cluxton. Many lads are playing their first year in the championship and its good to see some of the U21 winners getting the nod. Its my opinion Dublin are in transitition based on the above. I can see why a Kerry man is irritated by the invincible moniker, but to the victor........etc. As for Kerry as i said i above i was surprised with the line up for the Munster final i thought there wouldbe more new blood to be honest, but you cant argue with results. My general pont as far as i can see is that their three tiers of generations in the Kerry team, you have a large group of lads that are 27-29 who really need to start making hay now to have a careers of note as Kerry senior footballers - i say that as you often say yourself one all Ireland medal is small currency down there. There is another group like the Walshs, Moran and Mahers that are getting in the thirties now as well. Of course there is promising young lads there on the bench that wil have years ahead of them. My point being its not or never for a couple of generations in that Kerry team. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 08/07/2017 09:05:42 2012267 Link 1 |
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In 8 seasons, the law of averages would mean that every team loses old players so that argument is a bit null and void as it effects all. If it happens over 12 months then you have a case, but the issue then is not blooding in new players over a controlled time frame. I think this word transition is a bit of a cod a lot of the time 2bh.
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 08/07/2017 10:51:37 2012291 Link 0 |
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Yerra username there's so many sly digs in that post a fella could tunnel out of Mountjoy...
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 08/07/2017 17:37:20 2012397 Link 0 |
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Ok mate, the auld triangle may still jingle jangle. ;) TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 08/07/2017 21:40:26 2012554 Link 0 |
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I hear in the female prison, there's 75 women,come Sept it's among them I'll wish I did dwell :D
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 09/07/2017 03:26:02 2012753 Link 0 |
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Jesus that aren't that good like. They're good but to say no team except Dublin can take them is madness. Struggled for a while to put Clare away. Bet a very poor cork team who just about got by Waterford. . I get it they bet Dublin in the league but a few teams almost did. Ourselves and Monaghan included. Mayo in good form could certainly take them as could ourselves. And no one knows what Roscommon are capable of this year. They just hammered a team that Mayo made look poor. Kerry are no where near the unbeatable stamp that Dublin had up until recently. This years championship looks more open that the last few years GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 09/07/2017 20:55:12 2013373 Link 0 |
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Its all about timing. Avoid injury and suspension, go in with a clean bill of health and keep powder dry until later in the year. Mayo are off the bridle now and could have a bit of an issue keeping it up. I wouldnt put it past them though. If Kerry meet mayo in the quarters, it has the potential to be one hell of a game as mayo are in the zone now. If they were to meet in the semis, I would put my house on Kerry. These small things are hugely important in the destiny of Sam every year. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 09/07/2017 21:20:35 2013398 Link 0 |
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Sure we're no good and only win because we are in a Hurling Province, don't worry we got the message Even though said team from Hurling Province went to the impenetrable fortress of Ulster yesterday and won despite a raft of injuries and players missing through emigration which of course was ignored by the usual suspects on here Galantis (USA) - Posts: 55 - 09/07/2017 23:21:04 2013536 Link 0 |
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I would say precisely the reverse on the Mayo Kerry thing. Mayo playing Kerry in the QF, a week after playing Cork, with Kerry having 3 weeks to prepare would be a big ask for Mayo. Dont forget that since Mayo lost to Galway this QF pairing was on the cards from a Kerry perspective assuming Mayo got that far. If they didn't Kerry would have a handy run to the AIF. Now the Ross result has upset the applecart somewhat. Mayo V Kerry in the semi would give Mayo a much better [ if still infinitesimal ;-) ] chance. timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 11/07/2017 13:31:50 2014923 Link 0 |