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The referring in the match yesterday evening was pretty shocking. As a neutral supporter I can't help but feel Dromard were hard done by. The level of referring in this county is questionable on many occasions!!

Line11 (Longford) - Posts: 2 - 28/08/2017 17:23:21    2039475

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Replying To honlongford:  "I think he's hitting 40. Unreal"
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lawdan (Longford) - Posts: 91 - 28/08/2017 18:06:43    2039501

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Was at both games last weekend, thought the ref's done ok in both, maybe 1 or 2 bad calls in both. The penalty to killoe should have been black card, and clonguish got a couple of dubious frees, apart from that they were otherwise good. Killoe had great chance to win, and missed the boat, can't see them performing again without Sean McCormack, Mullinalaghta should have enough firepower next day. Any team with Paul Barden is always in with a shout, he's still the top man around, the sending off helped them no end. I still stick to my earlier predictions.

botheyesclosed (Longford) - Posts: 115 - 29/08/2017 20:21:48    2040357

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As I said clonguish would win . Really and truelly the second desisions that went against dromard were awful. They probably weren't good enough ta win tittle but we're robed of a semi final spot -

drunkensailor (Longford) - Posts: 68 - 29/08/2017 20:30:44    2040361

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Replying To botheyesclosed:  "Was at both games last weekend, thought the ref's done ok in both, maybe 1 or 2 bad calls in both. The penalty to killoe should have been black card, and clonguish got a couple of dubious frees, apart from that they were otherwise good. Killoe had great chance to win, and missed the boat, can't see them performing again without Sean McCormack, Mullinalaghta should have enough firepower next day. Any team with Paul Barden is always in with a shout, he's still the top man around, the sending off helped them no end. I still stick to my earlier predictions."
Without Sean Mccormack????

kelcourt (Longford) - Posts: 39 - 29/08/2017 20:38:42    2040365

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That's only a guess, looked like was going off injured when sent off, so will do very well to recover in a week. No source on this so he may be not too badly injured.

botheyesclosed (Longford) - Posts: 115 - 29/08/2017 21:04:30    2040382

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I agree Killoe will struggle to beat columbas this weekend...they won't catch them on the hop again! The few defensive players that Killoe are missing affected them more as the game wore on...expect columbas to take full advantage on Sunday!
Colmcille I believe will be very close to surprising Abbeylara on Sunday also. Abbey were not particulary impressive in group stages and Colmcille have been the same but have had more time to prepare for this game! Columbas, Colmcille and Mostrim to get the wins this weekend!


As for the refereeing I have seldom seen as poor a performance as the Clonguish / Dromard match...and definitly the only time I have ever heard an official actually cursing at players on the pitch. Bad refereeing performances will always be a part of the game but that sort of behaviour shows a mental weakness which tells me he's way off the standard needed for senior championship matches. Pa Maguire, Fergal Kelly and Donie Kane always demonstrate excellent behaviour and professionalism and that gives them control of matches. Its at the stage now where these other new referees should not be let near championship games.the county board need to have experienced referees brought in from neighbouring counties to supplement those three lads. Otherwise we will have more and more games end up like Grattans and Legan

Dedrick (Longford) - Posts: 6 - 31/08/2017 17:56:55    2041282

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Any truth Dromard put in an objection about the referee V Clonguish ?

lawdan (Longford) - Posts: 91 - 01/09/2017 10:04:54    2041491

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A motion needs to be put forward from all clubs to the county board to bring in officials from near counties to ref championship games. Maguire and Kelly are the only refs we have in this county the rest are not even close to standard. Let them ref league matches. This has been a proplem for many years now
I was at the game last weekend and while the ref was bad he was bad for both teams the only difference was dromards attitude towards him. It did not matter if they won a free or got a free against them the dromard players and management would get up and abuse the ref. I see nobody is talking about that??? You could clearly hear it from the stand. What else did they expect. There managers running on to the field also. They brought it all on themselves

honlongford (Longford) - Posts: 163 - 01/09/2017 10:09:33    2041495

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Ah here, if Dromard lodge an objection you'll have every club who loses objecting. And if they do they will have no chance of winning it.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1236 - 01/09/2017 20:04:24    2041693

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Replying To Spinx:  "Ah here, if Dromard lodge an objection you'll have every club who loses objecting. And if they do they will have no chance of winning it."
Well if it's true about the referee that can't happen either. It's not the first time his name has popped up in relation to this.

lawdan (Longford) - Posts: 91 - 02/09/2017 14:41:40    2041820

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So where looking at another abbey mullinalaghta lads. Can't help to think mullinalaghta will have a plan for Smyth. Take him out and abbey are poor.. Yes I am aware there are games before that but mull and abbey are more experienced at winning big games in pearse park I don't think either will have any problems in the semis.. any idea when county finals are ?

honlongford (Longford) - Posts: 163 - 04/09/2017 09:17:19    2042436

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You do realise that Clonguish have several players that have won 3 senior championships?? Stephen and Anthony Watters, Paul and David Barden, Paddy Dowd, Joe O'Brien and Ciaran Williams. Throw in Benny Devine and Darren Quinn who have 1 senior under their belt. Clonguish will give them a game as a lot of people seem to forget they took Mullinalaghta to extra time in Leader Cup final last year and hadn't trained for about 3 months! And by all accounts they were the better team and should of won it. I honestly think Mostrim will beat Abbey. They are too reliant on Smyth and Mostrim have some decent forwards. I wouldn't be one bit surprised at a Clonguish - Mostrim final.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1236 - 04/09/2017 20:19:21    2042714

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Replying To Spinx:  "You do realise that Clonguish have several players that have won 3 senior championships?? Stephen and Anthony Watters, Paul and David Barden, Paddy Dowd, Joe O'Brien and Ciaran Williams. Throw in Benny Devine and Darren Quinn who have 1 senior under their belt. Clonguish will give them a game as a lot of people seem to forget they took Mullinalaghta to extra time in Leader Cup final last year and hadn't trained for about 3 months! And by all accounts they were the better team and should of won it. I honestly think Mostrim will beat Abbey. They are too reliant on Smyth and Mostrim have some decent forwards. I wouldn't be one bit surprised at a Clonguish - Mostrim final."
Spinx are you honestly trying to say clonguish didn't train for 3 months for that leader cup final, will you cop yourself on. No one is saying that clonguish haven't got quality in there side but there is no denying the quality that Mullinalaghta in their side either and what they seem to have now that they lacked in the past is a strong and experienced bench. It should be a cracking semi final from 2 good footballing teams. Just give Columbas a bit of credit for what they have achieved considering they are the smallest parish in the county. In regards the other semi final while Edgeworthstown have some nice forwards have they got someone to contain Smyth and berry at the back? This could be there undoing I think but could be interesting.

hotspur (Longford) - Posts: 6 - 04/09/2017 21:39:14    2042749

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Ok well look at it this way. I'm not sure but I think Clonguish were knocked out at q/f stage last year, so we'll say September. They would not be training the 3/4 times a week at championship intensity after been knocked out. The Leader Cup was in early December after Mullinalaghta exited the Leinster Club. So you're talking about 3 months of maybe 1 night a week training and probably not with full numbers. That's all I meant, so no need to get your knickers in a twist mate!!

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1236 - 04/09/2017 23:40:33    2042829

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Is that Killoe out of championship after the weekend? As i expected the extremely costly management they invested in produced nothing. We reeped the rewards of getting rid of him last Autumn

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 05/09/2017 14:33:30    2042995

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3/4 wasn't a bad return for me. Killoe nearly accepted their loss at half time, no fight in them in second half without McCormack, no plan or tactics from O'Donnell, money well spent there, keep him there for another year, likes to turn teams negative. Mullinalaghta win without getting out of second gear. Clonguish will put up better fight, anything can happen with P Barden on your team, but I think they'll still lose. It's about 8 or 9 years since those players won the last of their 3 c/ships Spinx. Abbey should be too strong for a handy Mostrim team, Smyth the difference, if he stays on for most of the game, Mostrim in with a 50/50 chance if he gets injured or put off. Colmcille done ok but never looked like winning, just always keeping in touch.

botheyesclosed (Longford) - Posts: 115 - 05/09/2017 21:18:55    2043166

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Replying To botheyesclosed:  "3/4 wasn't a bad return for me. Killoe nearly accepted their loss at half time, no fight in them in second half without McCormack, no plan or tactics from O'Donnell, money well spent there, keep him there for another year, likes to turn teams negative. Mullinalaghta win without getting out of second gear. Clonguish will put up better fight, anything can happen with P Barden on your team, but I think they'll still lose. It's about 8 or 9 years since those players won the last of their 3 c/ships Spinx. Abbey should be too strong for a handy Mostrim team, Smyth the difference, if he stays on for most of the game, Mostrim in with a 50/50 chance if he gets injured or put off. Colmcille done ok but never looked like winning, just always keeping in touch."
My reply about the championships Clonguish won was a response to a previous comment saying that Mullinalaghta have more experience of winning big games. I was merely pointing out that this was incorrect.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1236 - 05/09/2017 22:38:30    2043201

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Replying To Spinx:  "My reply about the championships Clonguish won was a response to a previous comment saying that Mullinalaghta have more experience of winning big games. I was merely pointing out that this was incorrect."
And my comment was based about recent history in winning big games in pearse park. Mullinalaghta have been to finals and won finals in recent years. Clonguish haven't won anything in 8 years

honlongford (Longford) - Posts: 163 - 06/09/2017 10:26:53    2043317

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Well I must of read your first post wrong then as I was nearly sure you did not say 'in recent years'.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1236 - 06/09/2017 14:00:17    2043432

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