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It's not enough for ye to have all the money population and home advantage in perpetuity ye have to have the censure the media as well
Galantis (USA) - Posts: 55 - 02/07/2017 21:38:19 2009240 Link 2 |
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A biased media should be silenced
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 02/07/2017 21:49:16 2009243 Link 1 |
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Don't know how anybody can argue that Kerry have had a huge advantage over the last 100 years by playing in a hurling province 4 games was good enough to win an all-ireland and that continued for 100 years..the mind boggles.. jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 02/07/2017 21:51:13 2009245 Link 1 |
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You are fake news
Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 209 - 02/07/2017 21:54:50 2009246 Link 0 |
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Pat Spillane being biased is fake news? Even his own colleagues called him out on live TV jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 02/07/2017 22:08:53 2009250 Link 2 |
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The amount of people from Dublin and Kerry whinging about stuff that is so trivial is actually sad. Are ye men on here of bloody children. Does anyone talk about football any more ? I'm sick of this one upmanship craic that's going on here. Both sides had good victories in the past week but no instead of talking about them you have this he said this. No wonder some great posters have left here down the years. It's just not enjoyable any more... too many muppets with many different usernames just fishing for reactions instead of talking about what is actually happening on the pitch. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 02/07/2017 22:09:16 2009251 Link 2 |
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He's a smart man, I'd like to think he doesn't require a script from management.
Marse (Dublin) - Posts: 217 - 02/07/2017 22:13:13 2009253 Link 1 |
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A smart man doesn't believe DC shouldn't serve his 12 week suspension.
Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - Posts: 285 - 02/07/2017 22:30:06 2009261 Link 0 |
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hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 02/07/2017 22:31:49 2009263 Link 0 |
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We'd miss the Dubs but i don't think anyone will ever miss you!
Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 02/07/2017 22:59:19 2009271 Link 6 |
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Surely not if it is biased towards Dublin, Jim - you have to draw the line somewhere.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 02/07/2017 23:35:52 2009282 Link 0 |
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If you understand my last sentence then your post makes no sense. I am not giving my opinion on the 2 incidents. David Gough said he felt he got the 1st one correct and admitted he didnt see the 2nd one and if he had he's have given a free. That's not bias. That's not my opinion. That's what he said. I'm not making the point that one was or the other wasn't. I'm making the point that Dublin fans (whether the thought it was a foul or not) justified the wrong call being made by comparing it to an earlier incident. And mark my words - if there's, say, a Dublin player cited for something obvious in the semi final but he gets off, you can bet your bottom dollar there'll be Dublin fans saying "ah well after how Connolly was treated we deserve a bit of luck" cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5017 - 03/07/2017 00:01:35 2009294 Link 0 |
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So usually 4 wins for Kerry to win an All-Ireland, as opposed to how many for others? Pre backdoor in Connacht, all but two All-Ireland wins, both for Galway, involved winning 4 games, those other two Galway won 5 times. No Ulster side has ever won the All-Ireland having started in the preliminary round, so 5 for them. The other Munster sides won 4 or 5. That leaves Leinster, where the same mostly applies, bar three times shared between Louth and Meath in the 40s and 50s when they came from the preliminary round, winning 6 games, and 1974 when Dublin started in the first round and had to go through a second round too before they reached the Leinster Quarter Final, finishing up with 7 wins that summer to take the All-Ireland. All of Dublin's All-Irelands won pre-1940s, over half of their current total, were won by winning 2, 3 or 4 games. Winning 4 games to win an All-Ireland wasn't exactly unusual before the Qualifiers and Quarter Finals and all the other years needed 5 wins bar 4 where 6 and 7 games were won to win the All-Ireland. When you're trying to criticise Kerry, at least do a decent job of it and make sure there's some reasonable logic behind it, not just blind accusations. It's fair to question some of the opposition that they beat along the way, although it was usually Cork, who are joint 4th for All-Ireland wins, but the number of wins is irrelevant really when there's so little difference between the 4 wins for Kerry that you complain about and everyone elses. As is the claim you made on another thread that Kerry have converted less than 50% of their Munster wins into All-Irelands and suggest that's because of the lack of competition in Munster. First of all, Dublin have won 55 Leinster Championships for 26 All-Irelands, a conversion rate of 47.3% and before this year Kerry had won 78 Munsters for 37 All-Irelands, a conversion rate of 47.4%, pre-backdoor they were at 51.2% and 47.8% respectively. Can't really call it an issue with competition when Dublin in the strongest province are at more or less the same figure. In fact, both are incredibly impressive, with four teams going into the All-Ireland you'd expect a conversion rate of around 25%, both Dublin and Kerry are far above that, only Wexford are higher with 5 from 10. Dublin and Kerry winning the All-Ireland nearly half of the times they enter it is not down to the strength of their provinces, the teams they faced or the numbers of games they played, it is because they have been better than everyone else and across history, the best two counties. expe (UK) - Posts: 31 - 03/07/2017 00:04:46 2009296 Link 1 |
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No!
DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 03/07/2017 00:23:53 2009302 Link 0 |
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I'll take your point about Kerry. When Dublin, Down, Tyrone, Armagh, Donegal, Donegal etc are beating them they DO put up every excuse and waffle going rather than ever admit the better team won. I am on record as saying this. I am also on record as stating my admiration and recognition for Dublin and the many positives they bring to the GAA. There's no better sight than a full (literally) colourful Hill belting out songs when Dublin take the field. The loyalty and support of the Dub fans between 1995 and 2011 when they lost so many close games is also admirable. However success has brought arrogance and elitism to Dublin with an air of "Stuff you, we are Dublin and we'll do what we want, and the rules DON'T apply to us". This mindset is alienating many other Gaels and leaving Dublin's reputation in tatters. I don't believe Spillane had any ulterior motives about highlighting the Connolly incident. It was there in technicolor for all to see and he HAD to say something as a pundit. Refusing to do so would have left him open to ridicule. Though I have criticised Spillane and Kerry in the past I think Pat deserves plaudits for sticking to his guns and not bowing down to any censorship or pressure just because it's Dublin like some so called pundits have done. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 03/07/2017 00:58:38 2009308 Link 1 |
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You're making the non-call on the Crowley hit bigger than it was. It would have given Kerry a 50 yard free to level the game. Hardly a gimme. And Dublin would still have 2 minutes to score the winner, and being in total dominance at the time it is most likely that they would have scored, as Connolly did. And Keegan fouled Connolly in the replay. It was arguably a black card 7 refs out of 10 would say black, 3 yellow. Mayo didn't suffer because of Keegan's absence, they defended well only conceded 5 points in second half. Goalkeeping error cost them Sam. So these incidents shouldn't be seen as huge calls going Dublin's way.
HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 03/07/2017 05:24:41 2009319 Link 1 |
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Lads Kerry are rattled by the fact the Dubs have the Indian sign over them for the last 7 years. witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 03/07/2017 09:39:59 2009380 Link 1 |
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He was one of their main attacking threats too, scoring a goal in the 1st half. He was player of the year. Of course it was a big call. As for 7 refs would give it - well those 7 refs would be wrong as a pull back is not a black card, a black card is awarded for pulling a player to ground. That did not happen. I'm not even sure how you can argue that point, everyone saw it and everyone who has internet access can read the rule book. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5017 - 03/07/2017 10:31:25 2009441 Link 0 |
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The black card was for a deliberate body collide which is what Keegan did, that is covered in the black card definition
keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 03/07/2017 10:48:59 2009464 Link 2 |
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Calls go for and against Kerry have had plenty go their way over the years just like Cavan have had It evens itself out In the same game Kerry were awarded a fairly dubious goal where if goal line technology was available could have easily disproven if that was over the line or not. So that was a fairly handy 3 points they got for what was at best a 50/50 call jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 03/07/2017 10:59:52 2009470 Link 0 |