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It is faaaarrrr from the first occassion that Mr Spillane has used his privileged position to push his Kerry agenda against rival counties

He's been getting away with an awful lot live on air for a long time now in my own opinion.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 29/06/2017 12:57:47    2007413

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Replying To yew_tree:  "People are generally on whatever team they think they agree with or is backing their team. I seen people go mental at Brolly/Spillane but when they are praising their own team its "ah they are not bad" - sports fans are fickle. We all are.

On this particular issue, I could not find much wrong with what Spillane said either...he quoted the rule book."
Couldn't agree more. That's the whole thing summed up in a nutshell.

Nobody should take anything either Spillane or Brolly say too seriously anyway. They're in the entertainment business. And Jim Gavin has been saying for years that they don't listen to voices outside the camp and just follow their internal processes. So I think we should ignore Brolly, Spillane, Gavin and Dessie Dolan.

We should be talking about football instead.

HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 29/06/2017 13:01:30    2007415

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Replying To Whammo86:  "You let your wife have control of the remote!"
During the week only!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9147 - 29/06/2017 13:22:25    2007430

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I've said before Joe is good for a laugh. I find him more interesting and I would back him over Pat.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 29/06/2017 13:32:06    2007437

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Team Loughnane.

The hurling pundits are far better, although not sure about Jackie Cahill's lack of socks.

The football analysts have been there a long time & at times it seems scripted that they will tear into each other in the name of good TV. Brolly was on a twitter rant about sky Sports three weeks ago & suddenly he attacks Spillane. The conspiracy theorist part of me thinks it is all just an act manufactured for ratings & to keep people from going to Sky.

I like it when a pundit tells you something that isn't mainstream. Doesn't happen very often with the football analysts.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 29/06/2017 13:40:41    2007447

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Team Brolly this time. Connolly hardly lifted a finger and Spillane had a script ready that evening. Just stating facts, just being honest, just doing my job add infinitim.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 29/06/2017 14:00:05    2007462

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Brolly. Don't get all this 'poor Pat Spillane' stuff being 'attacked' and all that. As Brolly said, Pat a big boy and well able for it.
All Brolly did was to say Pat had his Kerry hat on when getting stuck into the incident. Pundits being protected from pundits is over protection.

If they feel upset in the studio, imagine how many players have felt over the years being dragged through the mill on TV.

poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 29/06/2017 15:21:13    2007507

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It seems that Brolly's problem was that comments by RTE panellists could influence the CCwotRTECC.

Is it therefore a problem that the last 2 times Tyrone have entered Semi Finals RTE panellists have been somewhat negative to Tyrone in advance?

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 29/06/2017 17:50:08    2007590

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On the Connolly issue i am with Spillane 100%. Pat didn't touch the official or make anything up, he rightly quoted the relevant rule. Brolly used to be very fair and consistent, now he's an object of ridicule. He has flip flopped so many times over the past 5/6 years you could wear him at the beach. He loves the spotlight.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 29/06/2017 19:01:15    2007658

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "On the Connolly issue i am with Spillane 100%. Pat didn't touch the official or make anything up, he rightly quoted the relevant rule. Brolly used to be very fair and consistent, now he's an object of ridicule. He has flip flopped so many times over the past 5/6 years you could wear him at the beach. He loves the spotlight."
Absolutely. Pat does a fair bit of flip flopping himself too at times

Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 29/06/2017 19:07:10    2007659

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Replying To Weary:  "Absolutely. Pat does a fair bit of flip flopping himself too at times"
Maybe so but this is about the Connolly issue.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 29/06/2017 19:12:15    2007661

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Spillane is right, Brolly just saw a chance to kick at Pat. (Brolly also said Cooper needed the players around him to be a great player but is Connolly not in similar situation? Remember St. Vincent's semi-final defeat.)"
Nah. Connolly won the 2014 club final practically on his own.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 29/06/2017 19:52:29    2007668

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There has been a huge improvement in the championship games so far this year especially the football. And here we are discussing TV pundits as if they make a difference. Let's just discuss football......

michael (Cork) - Posts: 381 - 01/07/2017 14:00:14    2008332

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Team Brolly on this one but I can't stand either of them, Spillane obviously has an agenda to damage the Dubs in any way he can cause he's looking down the line to improve Kerry's chances.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2754 - 01/07/2017 16:20:44    2008386

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "On the Connolly issue i am with Spillane 100%. Pat didn't touch the official or make anything up, he rightly quoted the relevant rule. Brolly used to be very fair and consistent, now he's an object of ridicule. He has flip flopped so many times over the past 5/6 years you could wear him at the beach. He loves the spotlight."
The Sunday game after Down vs Monaghan "But Joe, isn't knees in the back that Down were doing illegal" Joe: "So what?"

Sean K, makes game saving drag down "That's not a real man!!"

Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - Posts: 285 - 01/07/2017 16:48:18    2008392

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Team Brolly on this one but I can't stand either of them, Spillane obviously has an agenda to damage the Dubs in any way he can cause he's looking down the line to improve Kerry's chances."
What part of what Pat said was untrue?

Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - Posts: 285 - 01/07/2017 16:49:38    2008393

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The amount of discussions about these pundits exceeds their value. The influence of their comments with the public is a reflection of how the CCCC are also influenced. Throw 90% of them under the bus and that includes loud mouths Spillane and Brolly. The other 10% should be instructed while noting discretions their role is not to adjudicate (with rule quotes and comparisons) and get players suspended.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2664 - 01/07/2017 17:37:17    2008412

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Most of the pundits don't analyse but seek attention. A good 10 year old could do a better job without being biased.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 01/07/2017 22:27:08    2008631

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Personally i think the spirit of sportsmanship is in question, if a pundit predetermines an agenda to influence sporting outcomes thats wrong.

The question was posed by Brolly why would "Kerry's Pat Spillane want Dublins star forward missing the bulk of the championship", cause, motive execution.

Shouldn't punditry be fair and impartial.

A pundit influencing sporting outcomes isnt right, i would feel the same way about any pundit if the same thing happened to any other county.

The fact he was damned by his colleagues who obviously no parameters of the morality of the occupation speaks volumes.

Its becoming clear that they all wield to much power in the games administration, development and governance."
Just because Brolly highlighted a cause, motive and execution (supposedly) it does not mean he's right. He's a Barrister and his job is to argue any point he is paid to argue. including defending the guilty.

In fact does not your participation in this forum equal the same cause, motive and execution if we were to listen to your reason as a Dublin fan. I would not question you for raising a valid opinion as I would hope you wouldn't question mine.

The fact is Connolly did the wrong thing alone without any help from Spillane or anybody else. That's where the blame lies.

Just as it is Brollys profession to tell lies or truths to make an argument in his day to day, (not his punditry) it is Spillanes job to comment on what he saw. As far as I can tell by the comments here we are not arguing about whether Connolly committed the indiscretion (another in a long list by the way), but rather that a television pundit raised it.

Well I'm sorry Dublin fans and anyone else that doesn't like the truth when it hurts them but that is the job of all of the media. To report on what they see. Not to leave some points out.

I don't like either of them and won't call on Brolly or Spillane's side, However the one person who cannot be blameless is Connolly. So can we forget this non event and get on with the football.

BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 311 - 02/07/2017 03:27:02    2008738

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Has Brolly being in the studio for a live game with Spillane or the gooch yet? Its seems RTE are trying to keep them apart but i guess its still early in the year

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 02/07/2017 10:03:03    2008785

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