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Replying To TheFlaker: "Still think it's gas that HS posters think Jim is using a siege mentality tactic and his players will buy into it, not knowing what he is at. LOL" Of course they know what he's at. They have proven themselves to be smart men as well as smart footballers but it's still a proven tactic that works. Alex Ferguson did it 20 years! kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 27/06/2017 11:18:30 2006220 Link
Replying To Joxer: "Those that know their football respect this Dublin outfit hugely. Dublin have done nothing here that Tyrone haven't done and let's face it there were numerous players on the Tyrone team of the 00s who had discipline problems. So pot kettle and all that. I'm a bit confused by Gavin's stance but clearly they feel strongly about the trial by TV angle. Obviously respected and long established pundits on the national channel, on the longest running GAA programme are much more likely to influence officials and the process than a UK pay for view outfit. I think Dessie Dolan's words spoke volumes. This will rumble on but will galvanise this Dublin team. They meant business on Sun but let's hope they can carry that form." I think Dessie Dolan's words spoke volumes Hilarious!! WunderBar (Galway) - Posts: 290 - 27/06/2017 11:26:50 2006221 Link
Replying To Floops: "the whole thing is player driven as jg said." When did he say that? Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 27/06/2017 11:36:39 2006224 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Still think it's gas that HS posters think Jim is using a siege mentality tactic and his players will buy into it, not knowing what he is at. LOL" I don't see why it's so funny and all the posters are wrong. If a group are told often enough that the media, Kerry men etc are conspiring against you it suits a lot of players to believe that. You appeal to the lowest common denominator, tribalism. While players know in their mind Dermo is no angel, if the narrative is presented as 'more sinned against than sinning' and he's one of our own of course a group will close ranks. How long this type of motivation lasts for is another question. Probably better at all ireland semi or final stage. But to lol at it is to misunderstand human behaviour and group dynamics. Why would a rational, savy man like Gavin engage in it if not? Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 27/06/2017 11:40:27 2006225 Link
Replying To kildare73: "Of course they know what he's at. They have proven themselves to be smart men as well as smart footballers but it's still a proven tactic that works. Alex Ferguson did it 20 years!" The siege mentality existed long before Ferguson. It's used by every sports team at every level. It's the oldest trick in the book. It's yellow pack sports psychology. Anyone that fall for that at this stage is crazy. Even those poked Dublin tigers :) Am I on my own in thinking that perhaps Jim's incoherent rant is more about the future than the past? Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 27/06/2017 11:44:49 2006227 Link
Replying To Laois76: "I don't see why it's so funny and all the posters are wrong. If a group are told often enough that the media, Kerry men etc are conspiring against you it suits a lot of players to believe that. You appeal to the lowest common denominator, tribalism. While players know in their mind Dermo is no angel, if the narrative is presented as 'more sinned against than sinning' and he's one of our own of course a group will close ranks. How long this type of motivation lasts for is another question. Probably better at all ireland semi or final stage. But to lol at it is to misunderstand human behaviour and group dynamics. Why would a rational, savy man like Gavin engage in it if not?" It worked for duke university and Boston Celtics for years. Marse (Dublin) - Posts: 217 - 27/06/2017 12:09:37 2006240 Link
Replying To The_Fridge: "Lose more respect for themselves. Not that they have much left too be fair." HAHAHAH I could tell you a few tales about some Tyrone Boyos pal... So I'd be careful living in your glass house jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/06/2017 12:32:56 2006248 Link
Replying To The_Fridge: "Lose more respect for themselves. Not that they have much left too be fair." What does that even mean? Yeah if only we were up there with the likes of Tyrone for showing respect. Wha!! Priceless stuff - It must have been some heat in your glass house over the last couple of weeks Listen you've a massive chip on your shoulder when it comes to Dublin but sure we'll soon see how much respect Tyrone has for Dublin when you put 14 behind the ball... jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/06/2017 12:42:26 2006252 Link
Replying To hill16no1man: "They specifically only choose to analyse and highlighy one incident. when Carlow Brendan Murphy got his matching orders he verbally abused the same linesman leaving the field. now the Sunday game choose clearly not to highlight this or analyse it. that's a clear lack of balance and a clear indication that it was because of who Connolly is that they went after him on the programme and not give the same condemnation of Brendan Murphy" Brendan Murphy must of crossed you in a former life Hill!!! Every reply you've had for the last couple of weeks has been about Brendan Murphy! SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 591 - 27/06/2017 13:15:58 2006271 Link
Replying To SamandLiamSoon: "Brendan Murphy must of crossed you in a former life Hill!!! Every reply you've had for the last couple of weeks has been about Brendan Murphy!" Well you do know he verbally laid his hand on a linesman on his way off...........didn't you?! kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 27/06/2017 13:28:02 2006281 Link
Replying To hill16no1man: "But he doesn't get involved every game He is beeing targeted and some games responds. Your tv cameras won't show you that so you need to actually attend and see the actual level he gets. people use the line all players get this to an extent but not to the extent he gets it literally starts before throw in and lasts till full time. You have pundits basically saying it's only way to curb his influence and last year westmeath manager after the game said it was a clear tactic of theirs to try get him sent off. You don't hear that about any other top player. he reacts yes but the amount of stuff he gets his reaction is only a fraction of the games compared to the agressors on him that go unpunished, do they get highlighted and howcome the cccc don't review these incidents id they don't just go by the Sunday game hysteria? If somebody was constantly breaking into your house and stealing and you keep reporting to the garda and they never do anything I'm sure you would get sick of it and try and stop them yourself.if you don't stick up for yourself on the pitch you will get walked all over. It's officials not doing their jobs t the end of the day that let's agressors keep targetting and then the world and its mother goes bananas when somebody gets fed up being kicked slapped, verbally abused and turns around and gives them a taste of their own medicine." "if your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him" Sun Tzu at around 500BC, but sure that was before DC and Hill came along. a timeless philosophy needs rewritten for this exceptional circumstance. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 27/06/2017 14:09:30 2006311 Link
The linesman thought nothing of the incident, the ref thought nothing of the incident. Then after the game in my own opinion they had a change of heart, and because social media was saying "Connolly pushed ref". The Pat Spillane said it was a 12 week ban. Look, if the ref had sent Connolly off, well then fine. But there are too many factors that were displeasing about the whole incident. The rules are the rules is the nonsense spouted on here by the lads who clearly have an anti Dublin bias. That's my only issue with the Connolly case. The rules were demanded to be adhered to by Pat and Colm, yet the rules were not applied correctly to Brendan Murphy in the same manner as dished out to Philly McMahon. And players have touched a ref in nearly every game since the Connolly incident, yet no punishments? Did the player touch the ref, if so 12 weeks. But you'll say it's different, I'll say the rules don't say you have a severity scale. It's just says touching the ref! Jim was quite right to address it. Spillane was encouraging the biggest possible ban, why was that? This always comes back to refereeing of games. It's so inconsistent. If a Galway lad done what Connolly done, he would just be showing "passion". But because it's Dublin, it's a 12 week ban. JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 27/06/2017 14:59:22 2006350 Link
Loving the Dublin passive aggression, keep it up boys. greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 27/06/2017 15:16:20 2006357 Link
And the lads comparing Murphy giving the official verbals to Connolly actually confronting the linesman is just hilarious. Totally different. I can't believe Gavin has reignited the flames again, tiresome. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7896 - 27/06/2017 16:33:04 2006396 Link
Anyone who believes that the CCCC are not influenced by a pundit quoting the rule, section , punishment etc. also believe in alternative facts and fake news. The bottom like is that all incidents should be dealt with on the field of play with the team of officials appointed to control the game. It should be under extreme circumstances where a player is injured that a review takes place. Connolly should not have been suspended as no action was taken on the field. Bennett should not have been suspended because no action was taken on the field and he did not injure anyone. It is hay making day for these pundits when the game gets played off the field. We here it said these commentators are just doing their job. Well if so hi- light the treatment these players are getting before they react. No because they can not exert the same influence as re running the tape and quoting the rule book. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 27/06/2017 17:37:27 2006428 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "And the lads comparing Murphy giving the official verbals to Connolly actually confronting the linesman is just hilarious. Totally different. I can't believe Gavin has reignited the flames again, tiresome." Tiresome yet you keep commenting on it. Now that's hilarious! Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 27/06/2017 17:41:09 2006430 Link
Pat Spillane did his job, have to side with the Kerryman. Everybody loves Jim Gavin but he has taken the wrong fork in the road over the Connolly matter. All players get "due process" regardless of what is said on the telly or written in the papers. suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 27/06/2017 17:51:55 2006435 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "What does that even mean? Yeah if only we were up there with the likes of Tyrone for showing respect. Wha!! Priceless stuff - It must have been some heat in your glass house over the last couple of weeks Listen you've a massive chip on your shoulder when it comes to Dublin but sure we'll soon see how much respect Tyrone has for Dublin when you put 14 behind the ball..." calm down lad. Don't be getting so wound up. I didn't mine respect in general I meant on these Connolly incident. And trust me I know what Tyrone players have done. As bad as the dubs and every other team. You didn't answer any of my questions though. Why did Jim talk about the two boys occupation's? Why didn't he criticise the sky sports presenters? The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 27/06/2017 17:57:15 2006436 Link
Which pundit got the Louth lad suspended for 12 weeks? SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 591 - 27/06/2017 18:54:38 2006456 Link
Replying To suckvalleypaddy: "Pat Spillane did his job, have to side with the Kerryman. Everybody loves Jim Gavin but he has taken the wrong fork in the road over the Connolly matter. All players get "due process" regardless of what is said on the telly or written in the papers." well said SVP right on brother maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 27/06/2017 19:06:21 2006463 Link