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Replying To KerryAnimal37:  "Ye received €275 per head between 2010-14 per head

WM got €33
Kerry €19
Cork €16
Galway €15
Mayo €22
Donegal €20
Tyrone €21
Kildare €18
Meath €21

Fermnaagh were the 2nd highest with €68

Anything but a level playing field"
Will you get back in your box the pure hatred from people like you never cease to amaze me were was the level playing for the last 100 years Kerry playing in a 5 team hurling province had a by to an all-ireland semi final, the big issue in GAA this year was a failed drugs test that was brushed under the carpet for 16 months it begs the question what else is is being covered up down there it's not if it was a once off occurrence.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 26/06/2017 07:32:14    2005309

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Replying To yelowbelly:  "I know its an old topic around here, but why o why is it necessary to whistle and boo an opposition free taker when you are 17 points up and cruising ??"
Tradition

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 26/06/2017 08:27:40    2005321

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Replying To MesAmis:  "It's Dublin FFS, it's what they do. Very uncouth and rough.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts:8536 - 25/06/2017 17:12:01


We've got a reputation to upkeep. Yous love it."
Yeah look the Dubs fans are fierce noisy, but once you get to know them, you soon realise there's very little malice behind the noise; and they love nothing more than a wound-up Culchie : ). I've generally found Dublin fans to be the most cheerful and least-begrudging fans in the country. It's up to the opposition to deal with the additional pressure they create and not take it so seriously.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 26/06/2017 08:36:31    2005330

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "Will you get back in your box the pure hatred from people like you never cease to amaze me were was the level playing for the last 100 years Kerry playing in a 5 team hurling province had a by to an all-ireland semi final, the big issue in GAA this year was a failed drugs test that was brushed under the carpet for 16 months it begs the question what else is is being covered up down there it's not if it was a once off occurrence."
how the dubs argue with facts is beyond me..

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/gaa-investment-in-dublin-348120

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/06/2017 08:41:27    2005336

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I am not arguing with facts for 100 years the system has been unfair and Kerry have benefitted from it more than any other county the facts are if it was not for Dublin every other county in leinster would have there funding cut. I do understand were the bitterness and hatred from most people on here comes from I am involved with a small club and there is only so many hammering you can take from the big clubs before resentment, jealousy and bitterness kicks in. But like Dublin 10 years ago we put time and effort into kids and as a result we are beating much bigger clubs with bigger picks than us on a regular basis. As a certain Kerry poster would say yes neglected your youth and are paying for it now.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 26/06/2017 09:02:10    2005364

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "Will you get back in your box the pure hatred from people like you never cease to amaze me were was the level playing for the last 100 years Kerry playing in a 5 team hurling province had a by to an all-ireland semi final, the big issue in GAA this year was a failed drugs test that was brushed under the carpet for 16 months it begs the question what else is is being covered up down there it's not if it was a once off occurrence."
Just a quick heads up there jack, you might have noticed that since the Ewan McKenna article last year there have been a number of supposed Kerry posters with some very formulaic usernames that became first time posters......just to weigh in on this article.
Far be it from me to speculate but I think you might be starting up a debate with someone who might have quite a few other personalities on this website

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 26/06/2017 09:43:16    2005423

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "I am not arguing with facts for 100 years the system has been unfair and Kerry have benefitted from it more than any other county the facts are if it was not for Dublin every other county in leinster would have there funding cut. I do understand were the bitterness and hatred from most people on here comes from I am involved with a small club and there is only so many hammering you can take from the big clubs before resentment, jealousy and bitterness kicks in. But like Dublin 10 years ago we put time and effort into kids and as a result we are beating much bigger clubs with bigger picks than us on a regular basis. As a certain Kerry poster would say yes neglected your youth and are paying for it now."
He used to be a good unbiased poster but has gone over to the dark side with so many of his fellow county folk. ;o)

Meath should take a look at what Kildare have been doing at underage and structures instead of constant whining.

And don't get me started of Kerry through the years....!
Hard done by my ass...

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3733 - 26/06/2017 09:53:06    2005440

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "how the dubs argue with facts is beyond me..

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/gaa-investment-in-dublin-348120"
Was speaking to a decent profile coach from Meath at the weekend; said that even if Meath CB were given a million euros they'd p*ss it up the wall; no clue about structure or admin there from the top down, even in comparison to Kildare. But that's probably Dublin's fault too.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 26/06/2017 10:13:36    2005467

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Can we talk about what happened on the pitch yesterday gents. There have been numerous different threads on the funding.. Regurgitate your bitterness on those and leave this thread to serve its purpose and talk about the game,

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/06/2017 10:29:10    2005481

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Replying To waynoI:  "Can we talk about what happened on the pitch yesterday gents. There have been numerous different threads on the funding.. Regurgitate your bitterness on those and leave this thread to serve its purpose and talk about the game,"
No point discussing a Dublin match on main forum
The actual football goes out the window on here

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/06/2017 10:36:51    2005493

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I haven't watched Dublin footballers in the Leinster championship for some years now, and I believe that I've made the right choice. It is satisfying to deliberately avoid watching a mismatch, and to subsequently learn that the gap was 31pts. It has to be a fairly joyless exercise these days, especially for true Dublin fans who've followed the team for years, and are among the game's finest supporters. I watched a few Sunday Game clips last night, and saw what I'd presume must be clueless bandwagoners jumping about celebrating late goals in 'a 31 point win'. It made me think of the HIckey & Brogan goals of '77 v Kerry, and the great score celebrations, when there actually was SOMETHING to get excited about.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3422 - 26/06/2017 10:46:30    2005501

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "I haven't watched Dublin footballers in the Leinster championship for some years now, and I believe that I've made the right choice. It is satisfying to deliberately avoid watching a mismatch, and to subsequently learn that the gap was 31pts. It has to be a fairly joyless exercise these days, especially for true Dublin fans who've followed the team for years, and are among the game's finest supporters. I watched a few Sunday Game clips last night, and saw what I'd presume must be clueless bandwagoners jumping about celebrating late goals in 'a 31 point win'. It made me think of the HIckey & Brogan goals of '77 v Kerry, and the great score celebrations, when there actually was SOMETHING to get excited about."
Completely wrong
The movement skill level and attacking play yesterday was superb to watch in person in croke park yesterday.
I like watching teams play football at a high level and yesterday was a great performance from Dublin.
I go to see Dublin play not the opposition

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/06/2017 10:56:01    2005519

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "I haven't watched Dublin footballers in the Leinster championship for some years now, and I believe that I've made the right choice. It is satisfying to deliberately avoid watching a mismatch, and to subsequently learn that the gap was 31pts. It has to be a fairly joyless exercise these days, especially for true Dublin fans who've followed the team for years, and are among the game's finest supporters. I watched a few Sunday Game clips last night, and saw what I'd presume must be clueless bandwagoners jumping about celebrating late goals in 'a 31 point win'. It made me think of the HIckey & Brogan goals of '77 v Kerry, and the great score celebrations, when there actually was SOMETHING to get excited about."
I celebrated and clapped every single score.

I love watching this team play football because when they click, When you see their movement, their off the shoulder runs, their score taking, their work ethic, They are orgasmic to watch.

Ive often labelled Leinster games tedious and boring, But that's because ive become used to Dublin just sauntering through, sideways and backwards holding possession in midfield as if they feel sorry for the opposition and are limiting the damage they are doing keeping fuel in the tank. Going on Auto-pilot if you like.

Yesterday was totally different. Yesterday I was entertained watching MY team because they stepped on Westmeath throats an they didn't let up. They kept going and from minute 1-75 they didn't let up, They continued to play beautiful football albeit they where helped by a hapless Westmeath team who just, lost all moral, but It looked as though every player on that pitch had a point to prove whether it was to themselves, whether it was to management, look at me here I'm good enough to start all the time and I want this spot permanently, or to outsiders whove started to talk about transition and Dublin being in decline.

It was as though all the Dublin read Graham Geraghty before the game saying "Dublin have lost their fear factor" "If Westmeath go a few up we will see gow good they are" bla bla bla and thought, not having it... and sent out a ringing message.

Brilliant.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/06/2017 11:06:03    2005530

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I know that in the context of these games, a lot of things are overlooked. People tend to write things off in thinking that on another day this and that won't happen. But, yesterday Dublin showed a little insight of things the opposition are going to have to deal with this summer.
Paul Mannion's left foot is one of these things, his shooting was so accurate. It wasn't so much that he had the space for a number of scores he took but it was the speed he was doing it at. He knew where the posts were and didn't have to think about it.
Brian Fenton looked much improved since the league. He lorded the middle, he caught one ball from a W'meath kickout in the second half that was a beauty to behold. I wonder if this mix of him and James McCarthy can give Dublin an advantage in the middle this summer. They needed some fresh ideas in there and McCarthy looks a good fit.
Niall Scully looked very worth his place, he put in a big shift and could have had a goal to his name too.
Lots of positives for Dublin but I do think they have a concern with Cian O'Sullivan at 6. Teams are now looking to try to drag him out of that sweeper position and he hasn't looked the assured number 6 that we've seen over the last 2 seasons.

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 26/06/2017 11:10:52    2005537

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what I couldn't understand, and it's hard to see the bigger picture on TV but How could the Westmeath keeper not find his own man any time from a kickout or how could the Dublin players find space so easily from Cluxton's kickouts . I mean the Westmeath kickouts were practically all won by Dublin. surely a biit of coaching wouldn't go amiss here. It can't be that difficult for every county to mimic what Dublin do from kickouts. Ok they are probably fitter and better conditioned than most but what are all these other managers and coaches being paid for. That was a disgrace by Westmeath yesterday when you considered that Carlow actually done reasonably well against the dubs.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 26/06/2017 11:23:40    2005550

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "I felt sorry for Westmeath, very difficult for them taking on Dublin having played in Division 4 this year. Some great scores from Dublin but it really was a boring game, I lost interest well before half time."
The great goals alone were worth watching till the end. You missed out.

GaaGaa78 (UK) - Posts: 285 - 26/06/2017 11:34:59    2005563

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Replying To s goldrick:  "what I couldn't understand, and it's hard to see the bigger picture on TV but How could the Westmeath keeper not find his own man any time from a kickout or how could the Dublin players find space so easily from Cluxton's kickouts . I mean the Westmeath kickouts were practically all won by Dublin. surely a biit of coaching wouldn't go amiss here. It can't be that difficult for every county to mimic what Dublin do from kickouts. Ok they are probably fitter and better conditioned than most but what are all these other managers and coaches being paid for. That was a disgrace by Westmeath yesterday when you considered that Carlow actually done reasonably well against the dubs."
There was almost no movement from the Westmeath players on the kick outs. They really hung their goalie out to dry. I felt quite bad for him.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 26/06/2017 12:27:07    2005622

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I am a very proud Westmeath man who attends games both club and county all year. I am well used to being beaten by better teams which is fine but after yesterday I am questioning everything with regards to GAA and my participation in it. Maybe just the impact from yesterday talking but I cannot see a situation (aside from a Div 3 or 4 title) where we will ever again compete nationally under current structures. I don't even think a flash in the pan minor All Ireland or Under 21 title will ever happen again as we could see a lost generation through apathy after a result like yesterday and we need every kid we can to get playing. It's extremely demoralising being honest about it and the thoughts of having two kids at home who will likely never see their county win anything of merit is pretty heartbreaking stuff

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 301 - 26/06/2017 12:42:40    2005645

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Dublin played a high risk strategy for the Westmeath kick out they pushed 12 players inside the Westmeath half they placed 4 men across the half way line and on occasion there Westmeath marker was behind them. When a team pushes up like Dublin did you need a keeper with a big boot to try clear the halfway line.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 26/06/2017 12:43:30    2005648

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Westmeath beaten by 31 points and to top it off Dessie Dolan inducted into Leinster hall of fame , Please!! Good player, one Leinster medal tho come on ,

ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 26/06/2017 14:33:10    2005742

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