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Was a great win for us at Pairc Esler over Armagh and a very good performance. The match against Monaghan will be a much tougher task. Are the Farney county heading to the Ulster or can Down cause an upset??

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - 16/06/2017 13:16:04    2000324

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "Was a great win for us at Pairc Esler over Armagh and a very good performance. The match against Monaghan will be a much tougher task. Are the Farney county heading to the Ulster or can Down cause an upset??"
honestly can only see a comfortable monaghan win.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - 16/06/2017 13:30:34    2000331

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Down were quite impressive against Armagh, unrecognisable from last year. Eamon burns has done a very creditable job so far. Mcgeeneys team were shambolic on the day all the same. Darragh ohanlon and caolan mooney are a big threat raiding from half back. Jerome johnston and harrison are very hard to handle on a good day. A player that has surprised me is shay millar. He looks a most 'un-Down like' half forward yet everything he did against Armagh was effective and he was everywhere at once. Mckernans fitness will be a big factor for them. All told if MOR works on the right match-ups in defence Monaghan will have the edge. Mccarron and at least 1 more other forward need to step up too. But as our more illustrious neighbours to the west keep reminding us, you cant ever 100% rely on Monaghan to get the job done. I am still inclined to agree with them.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - 16/06/2017 14:48:36    2000373

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Monaghan easy .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - 16/06/2017 18:24:14    2000449

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Think Monaghan will win well. Down had a great win in first round but a poor Armagh were only 2 points off them and Armagh folk would reckon they didn't show up at all for one reason or another.

Brolly (Monaghan) - 16/06/2017 21:25:52    2000496

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I heard one commentator indicating today that monaghan will be tougher test for tyrone in the final. Monaghan did thrash Down by 19 points last year and as someone already pointed out down stumbled past a poor Armagh team in the first round. It feels like this match is a bit of an inconvenience for Monaghan. MOR will do his best to prepare his charges against complacency but it is difficult when you are such overwhelming superior to your opponents...

downtothecore (Down) - 18/06/2017 19:52:59    2001337

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Down have 5 Sam's...... We (Monaghan) have 0...... respect where its due!.... NO, we d'ont underestimate Down ..... never , ever have!

Monaghan Exile (Monaghan) - 18/06/2017 21:31:55    2001412

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Replying To downtothecore:  "I heard one commentator indicating today that monaghan will be tougher test for tyrone in the final. Monaghan did thrash Down by 19 points last year and as someone already pointed out down stumbled past a poor Armagh team in the first round. It feels like this match is a bit of an inconvenience for Monaghan. MOR will do his best to prepare his charges against complacency but it is difficult when you are such overwhelming superior to your opponents..."
It is great to see a revitalized Down. However I think that it will be a few years before they reach an Ulster final.

PeggyGordon (Antrim) - 18/06/2017 22:09:48    2001443

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I'd like to see Down get back to being serious contenders again, always liked their style of play, I think though that whoever wins this doesn't really matter,Tyrone are back and I think they will be unstoppable come the Ulster final.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - 18/06/2017 23:53:20    2001513

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Hopefully Down will win this cos they usually put it up to Tyrone.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - 19/06/2017 00:57:12    2001541

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Unfortunately what happened in Clones yesterday puts our game very much in the shadows. Almost 23 thousand people were in Clones yesterday on a very hot day. At our game against cavan there were less than 8 thousand. I suppose there was so much of a mystery about yesterday? Were the new look Donegal squad going to put the final nail in the Tyrone coffin? Or as happened were Tyrone going to bring something new to the table and show their talents. We only had to wait 15 minutes into the game until the first surge up the field and it had happened without anyone there to cut the ribbon. We need a lot more support on Sunday as this could be a banana skin.

border Gael (Monaghan) - 19/06/2017 11:46:42    2001701

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Replying To Monaghan Exile:  "Down have 5 Sam's...... We (Monaghan) have 0...... respect where its due!.... NO, we d'ont underestimate Down ..... never , ever have!"
Its not disrespectful to say that that has sweet butter all to do with this game. My youngest brother wasn't even born when Down last won Sam(December of 94). Its like Cavan posters the week before claiming their proud history meant they had a chance against us. Look its championship football, and our exit last year and even our own victory over the champs in 12 should show us what not taking it seriously can cause to happen, but Down are not at the same level as us AT THIS PRESENT TIME and we should, SHOULD not be struggling to win this. I'll be there Saturday biting my nails most likely willing our boys to do the job but both now and hopefully after the game, its unlikely we'll be wiping our brows.

Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - 19/06/2017 19:08:42    2002071

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Nobody likes a cute hoor so I'm not going to pretend to be one. All due respect to Down and they're a great footballing county, but with the way both teams are at the moment I'd be disappointed if we didn't win with a few to spare. A lot of room for improvement after the last day but I doubt we'll be as wasteful in attack again.

patk (Monaghan) - 19/06/2017 21:44:52    2002165

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Monaghan are playing at a different level and should pull away for a 5/6 point win in the end. Down will want to show considerable improvement from last years defeat so they can take something into the back door.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - 20/06/2017 13:30:03    2002507

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I always believe Down can win any game but it would have to start with sorting out the full back line. If we cough up the same amount of goal chances as against Armagh, you just know McManus will bury them.

Suas Sios (None) - 20/06/2017 16:01:53    2002625

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Hopefully Down will win this cos they usually put it up to Tyrone."
Really, think Tyrone would rather meet Monaghan any day than Down - think Down will keep it tight for first quarter then Monaghan power and skill will push away easily in the end.

IrishGael3 (USA) - 20/06/2017 16:25:26    2002642

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Have a feeling we might need to play better than first two matches to win on Saturday night and think we will. Down will be out to prove a point after last year. Didn't think them great value Armagh but important thing is they got the win and that will do a lot for confidence. We should just remember last time counties met at this stage. Ulster semi finals are rarely a walk in the park cavan took this tyrone side everyone raving about to a replay last year. Monaghan by three.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - 20/06/2017 20:49:10    2002781

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Replying To Iamlegion666:  "[quote=Monaghan Exile:  "Down have 5 Sam's...... We (Monaghan) have 0...... respect where its due!.... NO, we d'ont underestimate Down ..... never , ever have!"
Its not disrespectful to say that that has sweet butter all to do with this game. My youngest brother wasn't even born when Down last won Sam(December of 94). Its like Cavan posters the week before claiming their proud history meant they had a chance against us. Look its championship football, and our exit last year and even our own victory over the champs in 12 should show us what not taking it seriously can cause to happen, but Down are not at the same level as us AT THIS PRESENT TIME and we should, SHOULD not be struggling to win this. I'll be there Saturday biting my nails most likely willing our boys to do the job but both now and hopefully after the game, its unlikely we'll be wiping our brows."]Its not disrespectful to say that that has sweet butter all to do with this game. My youngest brother wasn't even born when Down last won Sam(December of 94). Its like Cavan posters the week before claiming their proud history meant they had a chance against us. Look its championship football, and our exit last year and even our own victory over the champs in 12 should show us what not taking it seriously can cause to happen, but Down are not at the same level as us AT THIS PRESENT TIME and we should, SHOULD not be struggling to win this. I'll be there Saturday biting my nails most likely willing our boys to do the job but both now and hopefully after the game, its unlikely we'll be wiping our brows. Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - Posts:138 - 19/06/2017 19:08:42 2002071 Have to love your positive your positive attitude, its good to see, rather than negativity!... I do agree with you, I think we WILL win on Sat. However, my point previously, is that tradition does count to a degree. Teams like Dubs, Kerry, Galway, Meath, Down etc, no matter how poorly their respective teams are performing, have this "in-built belief", which can often be "triggered", if they sense complacency/ over- confidence in the opposition. Before the Cavan game you probably heard people, (particuarly Martin McHugh), talk about "Cavan having no fear of Monaghan". Yet, they only have 1 Ulster title in nearly 50 years, thankfully we won our last 3 against them, but only just! Anyway, perhaps Monaghan might just surprise a lot of folf this summer. ... here's hoping!

Monaghan Exile (Monaghan) - 22/06/2017 19:37:47    2003715

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I hope Down can manage to win this, though I don't think it's going to matter as regards the Anglo Celt, Tyrone have shown they are back and I can't see anyone stopping them,they might even go all the way and win Sam this year, not much hope of Monaghan or Down doing that.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - 22/06/2017 19:48:28    2003717

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I hope Down can manage to win this, though I don't think it's going to matter as regards the Anglo Celt, Tyrone have shown they are back and I can't see anyone stopping them,they might even go all the way and win Sam this year, not much hope of Monaghan or Down doing that."
Oh please, Tyrone had a great performance last week but they're not the unstoppable juggernaut some people here seem to think they are.

patk (Monaghan) - 22/06/2017 19:52:15    2003719

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