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the fortunes of offaly hurling were held back for many years by a very physical and bruising local club scene.the offaly senior hurlers were very close to beating kilkenny in 1969 losing 3.9 to 0.16 in the leinster final... Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 16/06/2017 20:00:14 2000478 Link 1 |
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You have to laugh at Wexford people on here , yes Offaly are struggling at all grades but they last won the all Ireland in 98 and were in final in 2000. What the fuck have Wexford done last in an all Ireland senior in 1996 .!! Won a couple of Leinster under 21s. Before anyone starts I know Kildare will never win all Ireland in hurling but Wexford beat Kilkenny and people think there going to blow teams away. Yes Offaly will probably get hammered Sunday but wexfords faith might be the same in the Final. ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 16/06/2017 20:21:15 2000484 Link 0 |
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i can assure you cockney cat that it was different in offaly. i know hurling was rough everywhere . but there was no comraderie when it came to the county team til dermot healy came on the scene and brought a bit of joined up thinking.they would be pockets of players from the same clubs together in cliques..and the same with selectors. thats the point im making.. kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 16/06/2017 21:51:23 2000501 Link 0 |
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In any county with a small number of senior clubs and where all the clubs are concentrated in a small geographical area, you're going to get that
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1907 - 16/06/2017 22:39:03 2000515 Link 0 |
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Ehh what? No one in wexford is claiming we have done anything, we are more than aware our last silverware at senior level came in 2004. But where exactly in this thread or any other thread as a matter of interest are there claims we are going to blow teams away? Enlighten us please! Our faith in the final will be fine. Our fate may be a different story seeing as we are either coming up against the best team in the country or against a team that has just beaten the best team in the country. as for Offaly I think there are signs there, it's always going to take time as we saw ourselves. Moreso than development squads etc the strength of Offaly hurling always came from the strength of the clubs. I always felt that the club came first in Offaly which is why the concept of development squads is one that may not work. Offalys strength over the ears came from what was done in the local pitch rather than at county level. Get the clubs up and flying might be the way forward for Offaly. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1353 - 17/06/2017 08:38:36 2000543 Link 0 |
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Yeah spot on rant in the wrong , look I'd love to see Wexford win Leinster great to see them back in Leinster championship which is badly needed
ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 17/06/2017 11:45:41 2000575 Link 0 |
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When were they not in the Leinster Championship?
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 17/06/2017 20:36:24 2000704 Link 0 |
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Back competing in the Leinster final ,
ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 17/06/2017 23:38:42 2000862 Link 0 |
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I know people will say "oh we were beside this Wexford fan on such and such a day and he was shouting for the other team against us and what he called us etc. etc." and we all have been beside them supporters at matches over the years...look, Leinster hurling needs Wexford (and Offaly and Laois and Dublin, Westmeath, Carlow etc.) to be be competitive...for heavens sake Kilkenny have beaten the bejaysus out of us all for the last 15 year more or less and Wexford hurling needs to be strong especially with Offaly gone back and Laois's recent times revival apparently hitting a sticky patch too...Offaly I dont think will come close to beating Galway tommorow...I may be wrong and hope I am..shocks do happen but its hard see where Offaly will find the form given they struggled to beat Westmeath (were lucky infact and thats a compliment to Westmeath)..I hate the phrase of "it will be a good performance if" but "if" Offaly get within 15 points they will do well.. Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 18/06/2017 00:16:24 2000884 Link 0 |
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Yeah leinster does need offaly, dublin and other counties to step up. What is the reason for offaly's downfall. Is it lack of investment in underage teams/coaches? In 2010 they brought galway to a replay losing by only 2 points. With wexford they won some leinster u21s and an all ireland so they had really good underage players, they just needed a coach who could bring out their strengths and devise an appropriate game plan for them but offaly havent done much at underage ie minor or u21. Surely they have some very good underage players?
fireinthebelly (Galway) - Posts: 89 - 18/06/2017 09:47:14 2000974 Link 0 |
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I was at the game on Sunday, I thought Galway were a little suspect at times in the back line , Offaly broke through numerous times in the first half and if it was a better team goals could have been leaked! Whealan is an outstanding player and if he continues his form Galway will have a chance this year ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 20/06/2017 10:01:14 2002342 Link 0 |
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Offaly were too defensive on Sunday. First touch was poor, might have scored more in first half with a more attacking display. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1751 - 20/06/2017 11:53:32 2002419 Link 0 |
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1-11 wont win you anything these days..won a Leinster Final for Kilkenny in 1982 with the famous Matt Ruth/Liam Fennelly goal against then All Ireland Champions Offaly..God typing that brings a tear to the eye!!...last Sunday Offaly only got 1-05 from general play..no no no where near good enough...from what I see Offaly think by being physical means getting to square up to an attacker or opponent etc...look at the bigger teams, Kilkenny Waterford last year..Tipp/Kilkenny last year...Cork/Waterford this year..intensity is when you get to your opponent and going in and hassling the hell out of him..not getting to him..standing then waiting to see what he is going to do..watch Offaly/Galway and the amount of players who just wont go the whole hog and be ferocious in their tackling..the big guns go in all gund blazing with ferocious intensity..Offaly don't have that for some reason..
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 22/06/2017 13:56:42 2003549 Link 0 |
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After the ball was over! Painful memory
thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1751 - 23/06/2017 21:54:32 2004183 Link 0 |
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I was there that day. Now those were Leinster Championships! A critique of Offaly's performance last Sunday if I may. They looked well drilled and well coached. They had a plan which worked up to a point. The two sweepers made it hard for Galway's forwards to be a goal threat and left us bamboozled for a while with the puck out strategy. Feeding high ball into no's 11 and 15 in Galways left corner back area paid off in terms of possession and left us with food for thought. Where it all fell down for Offaly was in skill level. The standard of hurler needed at this level wasn't in evidence. I seem to recall a few years ago Offaly trying to put in place underage structures to bring on young lads at inter-county level. Why did this not start to bear fruit? Where are those lads? Are they all in Oz or the US? On a brighter note it was brilliant to see the great Brian Whelehan in attendance and getting a worthy ovation. Keep the Faith boys. Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1060 - 25/06/2017 07:15:59 2004608 Link 0 |